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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1255
KamikazePotato posted... Yeah people don't seem to get that this isn't a tumblr thing anymore, or a reddit thing. It's an internet thing. You won't find a single point of origin. Again, you weren't here when it happened so I'll forgive you for being kind of dopey about it but what Undertale did after the Hungrybox tweet just doesn't happen in contest matches. There are counter punches sure, but they don't happen that immediately. --- "I'll admit that I made one or two sarcastic remarks in this topic, but in all serious I akin Undertale to fascism." -ArgaiRonso |
KamikazePotato posted... Yeah people don't seem to get that this isn't a tumblr thing anymore, or a reddit thing. It's an internet thing. You won't find a single point of origin. And i'll f***ing say this again If it's Internet thing, it should favor Melee Stop giving Undertale too much credit, it might be a trending game right now but it's still up against one of the most known Nintendo games Rallying Undertale in a dedicated community? sure! but rallying it in the Internet should favor Melee...in a landslide --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
If
it was all stuffing, then this would be one of the biggest vote
stuffing efforts in any online poll ever. It would require knowledge of
the trends of the countries on this site and how often they voted in a
normal match to be able to realistically manipulate small country
percentages to appear normal. It would take an inside job. Jet fuel can't melt steel beans (edited 12/13/2015 12:26:31 PM)report |
armitage999 posted... red sox 777 posted...Oh this contest isn't over yet. Link is going to give us a tremendous, valiant, struggle against the unstoppable force before he loses. He may lose but it will be exciting! How he's going to do it I'm not sure but it may have something to do with beating Undertale's 900 vote updates with 1000 vote updates for about 30 minutes. Undertale has 17 options and all of them are 'suplex'? --- Remember when you were young? No longer bearing the mark of Kan. I'm a new man now. |
I don't think Mango can make much of a difference at this point. Melee either starts Undertaleing now or this is over. If it takes too long this is gonna be Link all over again. |
I
was here, I just wasn't posting because unlike Melee fans when I see a
result I don't want (and Undertale had been steadily losing up until
then) I don't immediately post about cheating You guys are just upset that you got outrallied. That's it. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KamikazePotato posted... I was here, I just wasn't posting because unlike Melee fans when I see a result I don't want (and Undertale had been steadily losing up until then) I don't immediately post about cheating Okay KP I got a bridge to sell you lol --- "I'll admit that I made one or two sarcastic remarks in this topic, but in all serious I akin Undertale to fascism." -ArgaiRonso |
KanzarisKelshen posted... armitage999 posted...red sox 777 posted...Oh this contest isn't over yet. Link is going to give us a tremendous, valiant, struggle against the unstoppable force before he loses. He may lose but it will be exciting! How he's going to do it I'm not sure but it may have something to do with beating Undertale's 900 vote updates with 1000 vote updates for about 30 minutes. Link is going to go on a trip to Suplex City and there's nothing anyone can do to help! |
You
need more than just Pro Melee players tweeting. There are only so many
of them and you'll use up the competitive Melee crowd quickly. What
about general Nintendo places? --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
Karma Hunter posted... Would literally do it again if I could I guess this is true. Undertale did save us from a Melee/OoT final. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
KamikazePotato posted... Yeah people don't seem to get that this isn't a tumblr thing anymore, or a reddit thing. It's an internet thing. You won't find a single point of origin. You mean despite the fact that every other match so far had clear sources of votals? Sure thing :) Don't get me wrong, its possible we just can't find the sources. But this is far from tin foil hat. The burden is on you, not us, to prove that completely new voting trends are legitimate. Or more accurately, the burden is on Allen. I'm sure if he suspects anything he would take action as needed. My point is that Undertale votals are weird. And thinking that your "whole internet" theory is automatically right and therefore anyone who disagrees is wearing a tin foil hat, is the lowest form of argumentation and makes me legit more disgusted than any vote stuffing by either side. --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
Nanis23 posted... Why would someone that didn't play Mass Effect 3 anti vote it "a game they've never played" = Undertale, not ME3 --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Melee needs to average just over 30 votes cut per update to win. --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs (edited 12/13/2015 12:31:04 PM)report |
Flowey replaces Peach's shampoo with chocolate, making her hair a mess. --- You dare bring light to my lair? YOU MUST DIE! - CDI Ganon |
I
find it interesting that 3 posters that I had earlier tagged as "Hates
Xenosaga" are among the most obnoxious "Melee should just give up"
posters in these topics. --- "This place has a nice view of Hod. And also... I promised someone." - Asch, Tales of the Abyss |
I find it interesting that you seem to group people based on whether they hate Xenosaga or not. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
As
bizarre and frustrating as I think it is that these rallies always seem
to have whatever they need to win, I'm not jumping to it being
illegitimate. And whatever side you're on on that point, I think you're kidding yourself if you think the match will be overturned or anything unless something silly happens from here on out. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
BTW: Melee/Undertale current votals: 135558 It went from a lead of 6882 over the 2007 final to 6140 in half an hour. --- Such a lust for revenge |
TheOneAboveAll posted... Melee needs to average just over 30 votes cut per update to win. With those votes per update, even 100 would have possible ..If Undertale showed any signs of slowing down and not being able to recover --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Nanis23 posted... LeonhartFour posted...hey now don't blame ME3 fans for Undertale You underestimate how stupidly hiveminded nerds can be. They see youtube videos of the 3 colour ending and immediately call it a joke and hate it. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
KamikazePotato posted... I was here, I just wasn't posting because unlike Melee fans when I see a result I don't want (and Undertale had been steadily losing up until then) I don't immediately post about cheating I was pretty vocal about my support for Undertale in this specific match and I also can't help but think this is just a bit too fishy. If it doesn't make you at least raise an eyebrow at Undertale's frame perfect counters, then welp. I'm not displeased with the results, just unhappy with how this has been shaping out. |
LeonhartFour posted... I find it interesting that you seem to group people based on whether they hate Xenosaga or not. I do that for Chrono Cross no big deal --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
KamikazePotato posted... I was here, I just wasn't posting because unlike Melee fans when I see a result I don't want (and Undertale had been steadily losing up until then) I don't immediately post about cheating I'm not massively invested in the winner of this match. I'm rooting for Undertale if and when it gets to OOT due to the whole SMRPG debacle. You would have a case if I'd started the "it's cheating!!" thing against Pokemon, but I'm just getting a bit suspicious about the whole match - and there's almost certainly cheating on both sides if there is any. Believe me, I'd usually be the last person to jump onto an alternative-for-the-sake-of-being-alternative Lopen theory. And it's not like I'm totally convinced it's cheating, I'm just far more open to the possibility than I was before. --- Such a lust for revenge (edited 12/13/2015 12:38:20 PM)report |
Too much determination for Melee. --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
someone should just make a post for every match this one passes in votals it's falling behind the 2007 final fast though, if one of the two doesn't pick it up it's dropping back |
Lopen
wasn't accusing Undertale of cheating -- he was accusing both groups of
doing it, and Undertale doing a better job of it. It wasn't a matter of
not liking the result or whatever. Felt that needed to be clarified. --- satoru iwata (edited 12/13/2015 12:39:09 PM)report |
Keeping
up that pace is going to be hard if Melee's well runs dry. Undertale
doesn't want to completely bury the game in the dust. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
While
no one can actually say if stuffing is occurring massively in favour of
Undertale, it's votes and boosts are suspicious. It never showed this
level of consistent votals in the past. It was always when Tumblr kids
got home at 3 and that concentrated its vote. Even then it was only like
400 votes per update. Today it is literally just boosting out of nowhere. Hungrybox tweets giving Melee a boost, and then Undertale starts pulling 750 vote updates 5 minutes later with no clear source. Then keeps going for 500 vote updates for hours to bury Melee. If Allen can show some clear sources, that'd be great. Right now it is difficult to find any. Melee's are more obvious, reddit and smashboards and pro players tweeting out. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Undertale
has no desire to crush SSBM beneath anything besides Mass Effect 3 if
it doesn't have to. But it will if it tries anything again. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
ZFS posted... Lopen wasn't accusing Undertale of cheating -- he was accusing both groups of doing it, and Undertale doing a better job of it. It wasn't a matter of not liking the result or whatever. Felt that needed to be clarified. Obviously both sides are cheating to some degree. Whoever doesn't think so is naive. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... It was always when Tumblr kids got home at 3 and that concentrated its vote. But they're all already home today. That's why we're not ending up with one gigantic push later in the day. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... It never showed this level of consistent votals in the past. It did last round against Mario 64. It was content to get up to 51% and stay there. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Both games have slowed down a ton. --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
Going to work. Good luck Smashers. Hopefully our spineless f***ing admin finally does his job today. --- "I'll admit that I made one or two sarcastic remarks in this topic, but in all serious I akin Undertale to fascism." -ArgaiRonso |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... While no one can actually say if stuffing is occurring massively in favour of Undertale, it's votes and boosts are suspicious. It never showed this level of consistent votals in the past. It was always when Tumblr kids got home at 3 and that concentrated its vote. Even then it was only like 400 votes per update. In all fairness, being a weekend match, Undertale's votes should be more consistent, as there's no ASV. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
Okay, Melee, you can start coming back now. I believe? --- NEW YORK METS - 2015 National League Champions |
ExThaNemesis posted... Going to work. Allen: "both games are DQ'd, due to popular demand Chrono Trigger will be in the finals" |
LOLContests posted... DaruniaTheGoron posted...While no one can actually say if stuffing is occurring massively in favour of Undertale, it's votes and boosts are suspicious. It never showed this level of consistent votals in the past. It was always when Tumblr kids got home at 3 and that concentrated its vote. Even then it was only like 400 votes per update. Is the "no school on Sunday" thing also true for Europe and Asia though? --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Just
to change discussion, am I the only one who'd entertain picking Metroid
Prime to beat RE4 or any MGS game at this point? Considering how
Oblivion is already (apparently) not far from those games strength-wise I
wouldn't be surprised if Skyrim could actually take on them all. Also I think RE4 is actually a bit weaker this contest. Kinda funny considering it overperformed stat expectations against Paper Mario and MGS2, lol x-stats. ...how on earth did the Paper Mario games do so badly this contest while Super Mario RPG did so well? Usually I hear more hype for both Paper Mario and TTYD than Super Mario RPG. Also, what's TTYD projected to get on Wind Waker? It might be similar to its GOTD projection. Heck what's Twilight Princess projected to get on Half-Life 2? I get the feeling it isn't far off from the percent it got in 2009, which would mean bad things for both its and Mario 64's strength if Half-Life 2 dropped. Also Mario 64 doubling Half-Life 2 disgusting, I don't even know if I like Mario 64 more TBH. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 12/13/2015 12:45:11 PM)report |
1337gamerpr0 posted... ExThaNemesis posted...Going to work. The hero this contest needs. --- Welcome to the League of Antivotes. |
Melee fanboys getting all salty because they got outrallied. LOL --- Yankees.Giants.Knicks.Rangers | 24, Banshee, Homeland, House of Cards, Game of Thrones, Suits, The Walking Dead |
Naved007 posted... Melee fanboys getting all salty because they got outrallied. LOL I was hoping for a wombo combo moment. It's not too late. --- What's wrong with the world these days is people don't have any common sense. (edited 12/13/2015 12:46:31 PM)report |
Disqualify 'em both! While we're at it, let's disqualify Draven for the downtime. LOLOLOLOL --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
I'm
supporting Undertale and all, but ExTha is 100% right about some of
these updates being fishy, ESPECIALLY when you look at geolocation. They
don't match up with Undertale's other matches. Or at the very least, they're oddball enough updates to where one suspecting nefarious activity shouldn't be looked down on. Melee got an obvious rally point and then bang, right on cue Undertale starts pulling out massive 650-700 vote updates. Then when it started getting a lead, it slowed down too much. That isn't really how rallies work, and in the comebacks it just went nuts even after getting the lead. If nothing else, it performs drastically differently with a lead. The entire chat was in agreement on this, even those who want Melee to lose. Edit: There is not a doubt in my mind that if Melee started coming back, Undertale would find 700 vote updates again. That's kind of nuts. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen (edited 12/13/2015 12:48:51 PM)report |
Let's retroactively retire Ocarina of Time while we're at it. Chrono Trigger vs. Mario RPG Mario vs. Crono: The Final Showdown --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Let's retroactively retire Ocarina of Time while we're at it. Let's retroactively retire Ocarina of Time to 2009. Wow, FFVII is so strong! It beat LTTP in the final even with FFX weighing it down! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
It was over as soon as Undertale busted out that 941 vote update. Melee can't match that. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... Let's retroactively retire Ocarina of Time while we're at it. No one on the board would complain, honestly. --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
Undertale with another nice surge. Stealing hope away. --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
