Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1254 - Match of the Year Edition!

Nice surge from Undertale here, but it's slowing down. Melee will prevail.
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At this point I'm really convinced Undertale will just get votes whenever it needs. If Melee dies right now, Undertale also will. If Melee puts up a 2000 vote spike, Undertale will counter with a 2016 one right after.

What is going on in this match.
hylianknight3 posted...
Hylian88 posted...
I said earlier we aren't doing a front page post again though.


Why would the front page post have been used on anything but Undertale?


Because running a website involves more than posting about a gamefaqs poll on the front page -.-.

Melee needed the post vs CT. I also didn't post on the front page about it, my writer did.
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this is hilarious, even sticky Draven would have a hell of a time here
guys again undertale is using bots.
we cant win
TyranoTom posted...
Reminder that this is a game that has been out 3 months with 500k sales and probably slightly over a million if you include piracy. And yet it can pull in 56k votes in 12 hours and 700 per update at will with no source post.


Apparently it needs to be said, again: games like Undertale do that.
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TyranoTom posted...
Reminder that this is a game that has been out 3 months with 500k sales and probably slightly over a million if you include piracy. And yet it can pull in 56k votes in 12 hours and 700 per update at will with no source post.


The sales and time it's been out mean bugger all at this point.People can clearly see it's the joke vote so are jumping on the bandwagon.
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Hylian88 posted...
hylianknight3 posted...
Hylian88 posted...
I said earlier we aren't doing a front page post again though.


Why would the front page post have been used on anything but Undertale?


Because running a website involves more than posting about a gamefaqs poll on the front page -.-.

Melee needed the post vs CT. I also didn't post on the front page about it, my writer did.

Do you have any idea how many votes that might actually draw?
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Yeah I'm really starting to be convinced by the stuffing accusations.

It's just getting kind of silly.
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LeonhartFour posted...
yeah sure that's exactly what I meant

Undertale looks terrified of Melee right now


You guys call things too early lol. People were saying it was over before I even went to bed and melee reclaimed the lead. It's not just going to lay down and die.
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Hylian88 posted...
Because running a website involves more than posting about a gamefaqs poll on the front page -.-.


Sorry, I understood that!

I was asking why it was used on an earlier match, and you have answered.
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Hylian88 posted...
hylianknight3 posted...
Hylian88 posted...
I said earlier we aren't doing a front page post again though.


Why would the front page post have been used on anything but Undertale?


Because running a website involves more than posting about a gamefaqs poll on the front page.


Because making a post is hard and takes up so much time?
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I mean this is a Nintendo game on gamefaqs, a highly respected game that has been out 15 years that has a high level competitive scene where the top players are actively trying to help the game + a reddit board that actively encourages rallies and it cant even compete with an Undertale that has banned rallies on its official board.
There's supposed to be a Melee event today, right? What time is that? (Melee's got this.)
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i leave for 2 updates and come back to this?

at least the jets got a TD
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undertale pls
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nopenopenopenop posted...
We HAVE to make a Undertale vs League of Legends match somehow. Is there no way to convince /r/LoL?


SBAllen could probably convince them to participate. But LoL fans were in for the butthurt, they won't rally if there's nothing on stake.
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But it refused. Gotta love UT.
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This is amazing. Undertale starts fighting back and Melee fans immediately claim that there's cheating involved

You guys are the best heels this contest could have produced
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I'm waiting for Allen to remove 50k votes from both games.
TyranoTom posted...
I mean this is a Nintendo game on gamefaqs, a highly respected game that has been out 15 years that has a high level competitive scene where the top players are actively trying to help the game + a reddit board that actively encourages rallies and it cant even compete with an Undertale that has banned rallies on its official board.


None of that first stuff matters when it comes to rallies, and especially sketchy ones that both groups are participating in.
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Do you have any idea how many votes that might actually draw?


I think he said it was around 3000 gross in the CT match? So with 15% backfire, that would be 2100 net.
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Building up to a 1000 vote lead again insanely fast...

Holy s***, this match.
Hylian88 posted...
hylianknight3 posted...
Hylian88 posted...
I said earlier we aren't doing a front page post again though.


Why would the front page post have been used on anything but Undertale?


Because running a website involves more than posting about a gamefaqs poll on the front page -.-.

Melee needed the post vs CT. I also didn't post on the front page about it, my writer did.


I understand. But if the web site cares enough about doing it once to get Melee the win, why wouldn't it care a second time?
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undertale consistently gaining over 100 vote leads per update now. how long will this last?
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12/13/2015 10:16:30 AM#276
KamikazePotato posted...
This is amazing. Undertale starts fighting back and Melee fans immediately claim that there's cheating involved

You guys are the best heels this contest could have produced


Rallies are only bad unless we agree with what they support, bro.
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"Looks like Melee made the mistake of taking the lead."

Stop saying this like Undertale is some kind of damaged animal, it's not like it makes sense for a game to suddenly make such a massive increase in votes per update just because the opponent took the lead

...And yet it does
I don't believe it's legit, sorry
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DpObliVion posted...
There's supposed to be a Melee event today, right? What time is that? (Melee's got this.)


Super Smash Sundays, but it starts pretty late. Should be starting right as this is ending.
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Melee right now:

Melee: Alright, here's my special attack.

*Still no rallies*

Melee: Yup, that's right. It's nothing. And it won't BE anything. For now anyway.

I know you're just going to take the lead back the second I take it.

So instead, I won't rally until the FINAL hours.

You'll everntually tire out from rallying yourself, and just give up.
12/13/2015 10:17:00 AM#280
PIayer_0 posted...
undertale consistently gaining over 100 vote leads per update now. how long will this last?


Probably not long, unless tumblr goes nuts. Undertale is much stronger than it's losing.
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"F*** Draven." -SBAllen
I'n starting to lean towards the stuffing accusations, but just remember that we can't scour the entire internet. The sudden spike we just saw followed by a leveling off is consistent with a twitter post from a mildly prominent member of the fandom. We can't monitor all of twitter, y'know?
KamikazePotato posted...
This is amazing. Undertale starts fighting back and Melee fans immediately claim that there's cheating involved

You guys are the best heels this contest could have produced


I was rooting for Undertale and even I'm thinking this is incredibly suspicious. It just does that every time whenever it wants. There's no rhyme or reason. At this point I'm changing sides to Melee, the league of backstabs continues.
KamikazePotato posted...
This is amazing. Undertale starts fighting back and Melee fans immediately claim that there's cheating involved

You guys are the best heels this contest could have produced


you're saying this as if there aren't people accusing both games of cheating!
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Hylian88 posted...
hylianknight3 posted...
Hylian88 posted...
I said earlier we aren't doing a front page post again though.


Why would the front page post have been used on anything but Undertale?


Because running a website involves more than posting about a gamefaqs poll on the front page -.-.

Melee needed the post vs CT. I also didn't post on the front page about it, my writer did.


I understand. But if the web site cares enough about doing it once to get Melee the win, why wouldn't it care a second time?


It does care. Hence the twitter/facebook posts. You don't just post the same material several times on a news portal, they don't work like that.
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There is no Melee event unless you're counting Super Smash Sundays (a SoCal biweekly event) which hasn't gotten started yet. Important bracket matches typically start happening around 8PM PST.
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MagnaX7 posted...
Melee right now:

Melee: Alright, here's my special attack.

*Still no rallies*

Melee: Yup, that's right. It's nothing. And it won't BE anything. For now anyway.

I know you're just going to take the lead back the second I take it.

So instead, I won't rally until the FINAL hours.

You'll everntually tire out from rallying yourself, and just give up.


That worked out well for Sans.
It's been silly since we started getting 300-400 vote updates for hours on end. Rallies work like the twitter posts-- big ass spikes, to some extent for both sides, and then a sharp dropoff. "Rallies" involve a game's base vote intake going up and sustaining the increased vote intake at a constant rate.
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KamikazePotato posted...
This is amazing. Undertale starts fighting back and Melee fans immediately claim that there's cheating involved

You guys are the best heels this contest could have produced


It just seems to get exactly what it needs every time.

And say what you want, I'm sorry, but Undertale's support is limited. No matter how tight-knit its fanbase might be, it's still a miniscule game and the bandwagon voters aren't this big a factor. Not to the extent that UT can just summon 150-200 vote gains at will. It does not have the fanbase of LoL. Melee, meanwhile, has a far bigger fanbase and its rallies are actually sourced.

Like I said I don't want to just say "oh yeah it's cheating", it's not that simple. But it's f***ing weird.
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Lopen

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undertale still gaining
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Lopen posted...
It's been silly since we started getting 300-400 vote updates for hours on end. Rallies work like the twitter posts-- big ass spikes, to some extent for both sides, and then a sharp dropoff. "Rallies" involve a game's base vote intake going up and sustaining the increased vote intake at a constant rate.


Yep. This is it. It'll get lost in the shuffle, but this is it.
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gap closed a bit, things are looking good for melee

basically whoever is in the lead starts losing
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Undertale is halfway to it's biggest lead this match
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Lopen posted...
It's been silly since we started getting 300-400 vote updates for hours on end. Rallies work like the twitter posts-- big ass spikes, to some extent for both sides, and then a sharp dropoff. "Rallies" involve a game's base vote intake going up and sustaining the increased vote intake at a constant rate.


I"m all in favor of DQing both sides
ZFS posted...
Lopen posted...
It's been silly since we started getting 300-400 vote updates for hours on end. Rallies work like the twitter posts-- big ass spikes, to some extent for both sides, and then a sharp dropoff. "Rallies" involve a game's base vote intake going up and sustaining the increased vote intake at a constant rate.


Yep. This is it. It'll get lost in the shuffle, but this is it.


I don't like conspiracy theories.
But I have a hard time believing any of those games are legits.
They are now both stuck at ridiculous high levels without any sign of drop offs.
(That said it's likely Melee is cheating too if there IS cheating going on)
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Hey I'm being fair here

Both sides are cheating their ass off.

Like those twitter rallies spiking from 400 to 600 should be more like 200 to 400. Like it's just being diluted at this point.
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XIII_rocks posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
This is amazing. Undertale starts fighting back and Melee fans immediately claim that there's cheating involved

You guys are the best heels this contest could have produced


It just seems to get exactly what it needs every time.

And say what you want, I'm sorry, but Undertale's support is limited. No matter how tight-knit its fanbase might be, it's still a miniscule game and the bandwagon voters aren't this big a factor. Not to the extent that UT can just summon 150-200 vote gains at will. It does not have the fanbase of LoL. Melee, meanwhile, has a far bigger fanbase and its rallies are actually sourced.

Like I said I don't want to just say "oh yeah it's cheating", it's not that simple. But it's f***ing weird.


I think the weirdest part is the map count for the votes....
Like it's only circumstantial evidence, but it's a CRAZY coincidence for UT to be winning Eurasia/Middle East when the game was only released in English and has only rough fan translations for other Romanian languages at best.
There are a lot of anti-melee posts going around by well known smashers like leffen atm, saying that melee doesn't need exposure and to let the indie game win, so melee's going to be hurting for a bit.
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guys i told you if things got weird after football started we should invent football factor

melee fans too busy watching football to rally

just wait for halftime
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