GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1251
LinkMarioSamus posted... And lol using the term "Clinkeroth" in this day and age, haven't heard it used in years. Yeah, it should be "L-Draventale". (L-Block + Draven + Undertale) --- You dare bring light to my lair? YOU MUST DIE! - CDI Ganon |
My dear god, I checked board 8 topics and I am terrified of what I have seen This topic is indeed a safe haven during contests season (especially when dealing with an invasion) --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
I
just don't like having to predict which game's fanbase ends up showing
up to the polls. Just looking at the bracket, here's a list of games
whose fanbases could have conceivably held sustained rallies: Persona 3 & 4 Smash (which happened) Pokemon (which happened) Minecraft Life is Strange Elder Scrolls (mostly Skyrim and Morrowind) Dark Souls World of Warcraft Witcher 3 Fallout 3 and New Vegas Destiny (maybe?) Starcraft (which kinda happened, but not really) How does one attempt to make a decent bracket with all those intangibles in play? --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
MechanicalWall posted... I just don't like having to predict which game's fanbase ends up showing up to the polls. Just looking at the bracket, here's a list of games whose fanbases could have conceivably held sustained rallies: That's part of the fun. Summer 2004 and rivalry rumble can f*** off. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
The Dark Souls people put in a surprising amount of effort into rallying considering they were losing 70/30! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
ZFS posted... This is why the idea of anyone being able to rally is so dumb. It requires an large, active, ideally centralized, community of fans to work effectively. The League of Legends, Undertale (mostly on account of being really new and appealing to a specific group of people), Smash Bros., Pokemon -- mostly, multiplayer and/or competitive games that people are still playing in the thousands today. Rallying a Chrono Trigger or Metal Gear or an old game like Mario 64 is almost impossible to with the same potency and effect. Maybe not for other people, but this is why I actively do not like rallying, or the suggestion that people just need to 'try harder' for these games. Just seems hollow. Mario is easier, I probably rallied hundreds if not a thousand votes yesterday on facebook groups and I got a topic to the front of r/WiiU. And Metal Gear can be rallied a bit from the active MGSV fanbase. And Nick rallied a few thousand or so votes I imagine for CT. Anyway, GameFAQs is a very single-player heavy website so I don't see a problem with multiplayer focused games with strong communities balancing that out to be honest. No game in our contest history has won that has even had a multiplayer component to go with the single player, let alone a mutliplayer focused game. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." (edited 12/12/2015 10:10:30 AM)report |
T4libKw4li posted... It's great to think that the winner of Melee / Undertale is going to 53 / 47 OoT. Not gonna happen. OoT is winning this thing. --- The present is a gift and I just want to be |
We
can have fun, unpredictable matches without rallying, though. Who
would've thought Super Metroid would be that good? Or Bioshock? Or that
Chrono Trigger could've made a championship run? Yeah, in a way, those
are also intagibles that can ruin a bracket, but at least those were
matches that came from this site's users, not anyone else. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
MechanicalWall posted... at least those were matches that came from this site's users, not anyone else. This has quite literally never been true in any contest. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
MechanicalWall posted... I just don't like having to predict which game's fanbase ends up showing up to the polls. Just looking at the bracket, here's a list of games whose fanbases could have conceivably held sustained rallies: And yet despite these intangibles we have the leaderboard filled with b8ers. I personally only lost maybe 15% of the matches I picked? That's not bad for a 5 year hiatus from a games contest. GameFAQs is already too static in its tastes, no other site would have even close to our taste consistency. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
UltimaterializerX posted... This has quite literally never been true in any contest. I'm not saying we've had a contest completely free from any sort of rallying, but my point is, there can be fun to be had without those rallies. IMO, I suppose. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
UltimaterializerX posted... MechanicalWall posted...at least those were matches that came from this site's users, not anyone else. I'm really having a hard time understanding people's positions in regards to rallies. They seem to think rallies have not made impacts until Draven or L-block did. Mario and Starcraft both made huge impacts years ago. Snake has always been rallied a bit. Pokemon for the past decade gets rallies. Zelda fans always make rallies. Most of the time yes these rallies got absorbed in natural strength, but that's because people on GameFAQs 10 years ago were also rallying their favourite games. Doesn't seem like people are putting in the same effort, a few people just give it a go on reddit and a few other places and that's it. Probably because most people on GameFAQs are too old to care about some silly polls. It's frankly embarrassing how comparatively worked up this board gets over the results to be honest and this is coming from someone who tries to rally! Why do you think other boards laugh at our salt? --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
ZFS posted... This is why the idea of anyone being able to rally is so dumb. It requires an large, active, ideally centralized, community of fans to work effectively. The League of Legends, Undertale (mostly on account of being really new and appealing to a specific group of people), Smash Bros., Pokemon -- mostly, multiplayer and/or competitive games that people are still playing in the thousands today. Rallying a Chrono Trigger or Metal Gear or an old game like Mario 64 is almost impossible to with the same potency and effect. Maybe not for other people, but this is why I actively do not like rallying, or the suggestion that people just need to 'try harder' for these games. Just seems hollow. While I think rallying has ruined the contest too, we just have to accept that the fact those games are the easiest to rally for means that, well, they're the most popular games, and that's what this contest is about, right? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
I still don't understand why Life is Strange was not rallied on tumblr Well maybe because the last episode was pretty bad, but if the match was somewhere after the fourth episode it could have been possible --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Figuring out which games will be rallied successfully is always going to be a crapshoot. Most rallies fail. --- Watch me play games! http://www.twitch.tv/lordofdabu |
AxemRedRanger posted... The Dark Souls people put in a surprising amount of effort into rallying considering they were losing 70/30! They asked Lady Heiress to post about it, but she declined. I am rather curious what would have happened had she posted about it. Probably her assessment of the Tumblr userbase, that there wasn't nearly as much Dark Souls as Undertale support, was correct, but it was a little scary during the match waiting to see if a rally would take off. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
red sox 777 posted... AxemRedRanger posted...The Dark Souls people put in a surprising amount of effort into rallying considering they were losing 70/30! IT wouldn't have had the same support of undertale and DS would have maybe cut about 2-3k votes away from LTtp at best. --- FFVII Remake >>>> Original. Deal With it. |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... GameFAQs is already too static in its tastes, no other site would have even close to our taste consistency. DaruniaTheGoron posted... Anyway, GameFAQs is a very single-player heavy website so I don't see a problem with multiplayer focused games with strong communities balancing that out to be honest. No game in our contest history has won that has even had a multiplayer component to go with the single player, let alone a mutliplayer focused game. These are absolutely not negatives, though. GameFAQs is very unique in its interests and games compared to virtually any other site of similar size out there. It doesn't need to conform, or adopt the preferences of other sites' singular favorites. The ideal rallies bring in voters for the entire contest and affect more than one match every time. You would hear a lot less complaining from regulars if that were the case. Because everything changes and not one game's fortune. I have a hard time believing you guys can't separate 'rallies' in the context of now versus in 2003 or 2005. It's such a widely different thing now than it was then. Undertale or Draven aren't remotely comparable to Mario over Cloud, or Mario versus Crono. It's a massive, single-minded force that takes one game from being natural fodder to contest champion. It affects almost no one else along the way. It's very easy to understand people's position here. --- satoru iwata (edited 12/12/2015 10:36:40 AM)report |
Predicting
rallies isn't interesting at all to me. I don't really care that much
what Reddit, Tumblr or unikgamer think. I don't use any of those sites.
I'm interested in GameFAQs because that's the site I actually
participate in. Maybe CBSi make money off the ad hits but that also
means little to me. Similarly, the increase in traffic doesn't mean much
to me either. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
Why do people follow this Lady Heiress person? What does she do that is worthy of any attention? And I am sad to see MGS3 still losing, such a brilliant game. |
Ocarina
of Time hasn't had Majora's Mask trends? I thought Link to the Past
would have cut into the percentage instead of drop. Today's matches
have as many vote totals as Majora/Link to the Past last round, too.
Interesting. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Similarly, the increase in traffic doesn't mean much to me either. Isn't it actually a negative for the headaches you have to through because of all the moderations? --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens | http://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Predicting rallies isn't interesting at all to me. I don't really care that much what Reddit, Tumblr or unikgamer think. I don't use any of those sites. I'm interested in GameFAQs because that's the site I actually participate in. Maybe CBSi make money off the ad hits but that also means little to me. Similarly, the increase in traffic doesn't mean much to me either. You have never, not even once, been made to think these contests are only about what GameFAQs thinks. If you want GameFAQs-only, ask for more contests like THE LIST. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
I
like how LMS has mentioned unikgamer so often that it was one of the
first offsite gaming communities that came to TRE's mind when he made
that post. (unikgamer is basically defunct and both it and its successor favslist are tiny) --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] (edited 12/12/2015 11:03:01 AM)report |
UltimaterializerX posted... Team Rocket Elite posted...Predicting rallies isn't interesting at all to me. I don't really care that much what Reddit, Tumblr or unikgamer think. I don't use any of those sites. I'm interested in GameFAQs because that's the site I actually participate in. Maybe CBSi make money off the ad hits but that also means little to me. Similarly, the increase in traffic doesn't mean much to me either. Well, it wasn't absolutely 100% only what GameFAQs thought, but it was close enough. THE LIST is cool, but it's not a bracket contest. It's essentially a giant multi-way contest which also introduces its own problems. A bracket contest without significant rallying would let you generate an X-Stats list which can be used to see the results of fantasy matches that didn't actually occur. Also, why are we restricting THE LIST to just people with a GameFAQs account? I think pretty much every benefit cited for why rallying is good for contests also applies here. It would improve site traffic, ad hits and introduce unpredictability to the list if other sites rallied for their games, right? --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
Haste_2 posted... Ocarina of Time hasn't had Majora's Mask trends? I thought Link to the Past would have cut into the percentage instead of drop. Today's matches have as many vote totals as Majora/Link to the Past last round, too. Interesting. This is a good sign for Melee tomorrow. It suggests that the high votals today are from the contest getting Gamefaqs' attention, more than spillover. We may be looking at 160k votes tomorrow, if Gamefaqs votes surge by as much as I think they will. It's a confluence of (1) the semifinals, (2) 1 poll per day, and (3) hype. It's too bad we won't get an unrallied/spillover semifinal match so we can see how much of tomorrow's votals is rallying and how much is Gamefaqs. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Did anyone look at this poll before? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4425-what-is-your-all-time-favorite-nintendo-game-on-the-snes Considering what we've seen in this contest, do we all think that Mario RPG only loses to Top Nintendo and Square? I wonder if it could even beat Majora's Mask. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1579-how-are-you-doing-in-the-spring-contest lol "Darn that Super Mario RPG..." --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens | http://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ |
I've
gotta decide who to vote for tonight. I may just hold my vote until
after the match starts and see which game is more likely to help Chrono
Trigger look good. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Oh yeah the game that caused all the whining about Street Fighter II losing is now in the final four. Wow. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
ZFS posted... DaruniaTheGoron posted...GameFAQs is already too static in its tastes, no other site would have even close to our taste consistency. Mario would have been 55-45'd minimum by Cloud back then if not for outside rallies. People put predictions for Mario back then based on his outside-GameFAQs appeal. You have to consider these factors when making a bracket. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Super
Mario RPG might still lose to Skyrim or Fallout 3 (and Undertale
obviously) but through winning the bracket's bottom quarter here it'll
already have directly or indirectly dispatched pretty much all the other
major non-Nintendo or Square games. The #3 outside this quarter would
be...what, Okami, Half-Life 2, or Mega Man X? 54.43% on Oblivion certainly doesn't sound like a Skyrim-beating performance but SMRPG is probably something you should expect to have non-transitive results. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I like rallies. They make things interesting. Sure Pokemon R/B/Y, CT and FF 7 lost because of rallies but hey that is the fun! --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
SMRPG in the first round would probably have lost to Skyrim or MGS3/MGS. --- This person is a well-known troll, please don't take his words too seriously. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/user.php?=2426382 |
ugh are we really having the "I don't get why people are so against rallies" argument again we've literally rehashed this for the last month so I'm not bothering trying to state my side again when all it's going to do is get drowned out by people who apparently aren't willing to listen --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
But in better news, it's good to finally have confirmation that MGS3 would lay waste to MGS2 in a contest match. Darn you SOTC for giving MGS2 fans shallow justifications for believing it could win --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
AxemRedRanger posted... Super Mario RPG might still lose to Skyrim or Fallout 3 (and Undertale obviously) but through winning the bracket's bottom quarter here it'll already have directly or indirectly dispatched pretty much all the other major non-Nintendo or Square games. The #3 outside this quarter would be...what, Okami, Half-Life 2, or Mega Man X? Either that or it just caught a bandwagon. For heaven's sake, we've seen RE4 beat Oblivion before, and that was when the latter was new (admittedly RE4 is only a year older)! Although I guess that was in an lol 4way, but then again the other games in the polls shared consoles with RE4 whereas Oblivion got the PS3 and 360 to itself and still finished in last place, although I think it did pretty well against MGS3/RE4 while Twilight Princess destroyed the poll...disgusting. Seriously GameFAQs, Twilight Princess over RE4 what? I mean, I love Twilight Princess, but over RE4? No way. Although Wind Waker is the only Zelda I like more than RE4. Quite frankly even LTTP > RE4 would be blasphemy. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
LeonhartFour posted... But in better news, it's good to finally have confirmation that MGS3 would lay waste to MGS2 in a contest match. No one outside of some sillyheads like Black Turtle actually thought MGS2 could beat MGS3. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
LeonhartFour posted... ugh are we really having the "I don't get why people are so against rallies" argument again We aren't saying it's not ok to dislike rallies, just that they've been around since the dawn of contests. You are certainly entitled to your opinion of rallies being involved. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Well, Chris articulated most people's stance on rallying pretty well last time this came up, so I'll just default to that. Stuff like Undertale and Draven certainly have not been around since the dawn of contests, at the very least. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
I've
got a possible theory on why MGS3 won last round. I mean you look at
the votals and they were abysmal. We've already reached the same votals
and it's only 3 PM. Do you think if there was a big draw like Zelda
involved last round, more casual fans would have voted pushing MGS1 over
the top? It seems like hardly anyone was voting last round so they were
probably all heavy MGS fans, and among the fanbase MGS3 is just
slightly preferred. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
I'm surprised at the amount of outrage from RE4 losing. Reminds me of the SMRPG > SF2 way back in 2004. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
It's
a mixed bag for me. I was not excited about OoT winning this contest as
a foregone conclusion (i.e. what would have happened with no rallies). I
mean, that's just boring IMO. But nor am I excited about a rally that is unstoppable (like Draven). The undertale rally, while not as powerful as Draven's rally, is still probably considered unstoppable, but at least the matches have been semi-close. With the advent of social media sites, the internet has become smaller, and rallies in contests like these, either for joke or for honest support, are going to happen for any contest going forward. Heck, NFL.com had a best quarterback ever bracket a few year back and even that got joke rallied and Donovan McNabb won it all. --- Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest. |
red sox 777 posted... I'm surprised at the amount of outrage from RE4 losing. Reminds me of the SMRPG > SF2 way back in 2004. It shouldn't be surprising. It's a very beloved game by those who've played it and considered one of the best games of its generation. That, and it lost to what some people are considering to be some silly Mario game. For some reason, losing to Mario RPG brings a lot of venom out of people. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
RE4
has won best game contests on extremely high-traffic, mainstream
sites. It's that damn good and respected. I prefer SMRPG, but the
reaction to it winning shouldn't be unexpected. --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 |
LeonhartFour posted... red sox 777 posted...I'm surprised at the amount of outrage from RE4 losing. Reminds me of the SMRPG > SF2 way back in 2004. That's what I don't get. It's Nintendo! It's Square! It's perfectly designed to excel on Gamefaqs! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
I'm surprised at the amount of outrage from RE4 losing. Reminds me of the SMRPG > SF2 way back in 2004. RE4 is similar to SF2 in the sense that it is viewed by people as a game of the generation type. SMRPG isn't commonly seen in the same light --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > LoZ: LttP, MGS > RE4 Points 195/288 |
That's what I've always said! I'm speaking from a different perspective considering Mario RPG was my very first RPG, but it's a great game and apparently a lot of people agree! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
SMRPG
has also never really had much of a chance to look great because it's
always ended its runs relatively early in the face of an elite game's
SFF beatdown. ...okay, it'll do that this year too, but this time people will have more respect for its strength hopefully. --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 |
At least it won't end early! But a lot of RE4 fans complained when it lost to FFX in GOTD, too. It's just one of those games where its fans will feel like its losses are never justified. (Same with Melee) --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif (edited 12/12/2015 11:59:18 AM)report |
LeonhartFour posted... At least it won't end early! Did we act like that when SSBM lost to FF7? Looking at the Oracle predictions at the time, we definitely knew the buzzsaw was coming. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
