ZeldaTPLink posted...
Wow I'm in the leaderboard. And the top half of it!

Thanks Melee rally.

Blah tied with me but listed ahead
Why did my entry time have to be so late
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Karma Hunter posted...
LttP's night vote just appears to perhaps be very, very bad, even by Zelda standards. I'd wait to see if it can make a substantial recovery.


The SNES in general wasn't as popular in Europe as it was in the US, so that should mean all SNES games would be expected to have a sub-par night vote.
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Those Europeans are crazy.

What did they play? Sonic?
...actually yeah I think they did
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Those Europeans are crazy.

What did they play? Sonic?


Megadrive sold way more in the UK. I think back then i was the only one who had a sNEs in my class. It was similar when I had an N64 too and everyone else had a PS1.
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FFVII Remake >>>> Original. Deal With it.
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yay mgs3 is finally going to lose

but what the hell smrpg getting this far
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terrible vote updates now. LttP got 4 votes in 5 minutes.
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-FFDragon- posted...
yay mgs3 is finally going to lose

but what the hell smrpg getting this far


Weak divisions and SNES boost.

SMRPG is a really average game so i'm surprised it's this strong but it would have been crushed in round 2 by just about anything decent in the first few divisions.
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Allen basically put everything that had any chance of being the #2 game in the contest in the top half of the bracket. So that the finals would be interesting.

That means Ocarina's path in the bottom half is a snoozefest, though.
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Allen basically put everything that had any chance of being the #2 game in the contest in the top half of the bracket. So that the finals would be interesting.

That means Ocarina's path in the bottom half is a snoozefest, though.


That was the best way to do it.

Stick the strongest non elda games at the top and the rest of the Zelda games and some mdeciore midcarders in the bottom.

PRe contest there were 4-5 games running for the #2. RBY, SMW, SM64, FFVII and Chrono.

Unfortunately that POS undertale ruined all of that.
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My bracket: Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the only thing I have left in it!
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Not_Wylvane posted...
But seriously, let's start with games we want a good read on that won't be tainted too much by rallies (so no Melee) and go from there. CT, OoT, FF7 are obvious choices. Super Mario 64 gets a good read on the Mario games. Pokemon is iffy. Maybe LttP if you're concerned about potential SFF in today's match? Otherwise besides OoT and maybe LttP there's no point in adding anything from the bottom half of the bracket.

CT/OoT and FF7/Super Mario 64 sounds like a good start to me. Anything to add/change to that?

e: Maaaaaaybe RBY/LttP?

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Honestly I'm ok with an Undertale win at this point when your other options are Melee/OOT/SMRPG. I abhor rallying but it's the best game of the 3 and NintendoFAQs showing up is full force is enough for me to want any other result than a Nintendo win.
We can't pin Melee on NintendoFAQs! CT was supposed to save us!
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Go figure that the only Mario and Square game that will reach the semi-finals (assuming it pulls it off of course) will be freaking Super Mario RPG.
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Yeah, Melee's rallying run is way worse than Undertales. Undeserved and took out the only games that may have made things interesting (without rallies)
America just woke up and punched Snake in the face.
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No rally is undeserved, or else the object of the rally wouldn't be rallied in the first place!

CT is an undeserved rally target because it simply can't be rallied!
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Poor MGS3, it's almost out of time before SMRPG gets back it's strength, and still 500 votes behind
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Melee is basically a fanservice game that wouldn't have such a huge fanbase if those characters weren't pulled from other popular games.
ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah, Melee's rallying run is way worse than Undertales. Undeserved and took out the only games that may have made things interesting (without rallies)


Chrono would have been bent over and bummed by Undertale.

People need to get over Chrono losing.
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ShatteredElysium posted...
Melee is basically a fanservice game that wouldn't have such a huge fanbase if those characters weren't pulled from other popular games.


Mele is a fantastic fighting game. By your logic brawl would still be popular or Smash U would be more popular.
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
Melee is basically a fanservice game that wouldn't have such a huge fanbase if those characters weren't pulled from other popular games.


Mele is a fantastic fighting game. By your logic brawl would still be popular or Smash U would be more popular.


Because we literally didn't see Brawl > Melee and Brawl in the finals last contest. Wait...

Brawl was popular based on it being in the series and it not being anywhere near as popular anymore shows it was more fan service than game quality. And characters getting a very substantial boost from just being in the game shows how mindlessly we vote for Nintendo (granted I think characters would get a boost from SE games, just not as much)
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Mario RPG definitely had the best run of the contest in my mind. Great to see it maki it so far after being behind so many bad matches over the years. But mean, Europe kills percentage.

Ocarina putting 60% on LTTP seems good. It's not a SFF crushing, but we don't see much of those these days.
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Oh look, Undertale fans, the better game is losing, yet again. A Link to the Past is far better than Ocarina of Time, yet here we are, the Undertale fans showing off just how hypocritical they are.
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Looks like SMRPG is gonna pull away with this.
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah, Melee's rallying run is way worse than Undertales. Undeserved and took out the only games that may have made things interesting (without rallies)


Chrono would have been bent over and bummed by Undertale.

People need to get over Chrono losing.


You need to get over your lack of reading comprehension.
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s***teredElysium posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
s***teredElysium posted...
Melee is basically a fanservice game that wouldn't have such a huge fanbase if those characters weren't pulled from other popular games.


Mele is a fantastic fighting game. By your logic brawl would still be popular or Smash U would be more popular.


Because we literally didn't see Brawl > Melee and Brawl in the finals last contest. Wait...

Brawl was popular based on it being in the series and it not being anywhere near as popular anymore shows it was more fan service than game quality. And characters getting a very substantial boost from just being in the game shows how mindlessly we vote for Nintendo (granted I think characters would get a boost from SE games, just not as much)


Melee has longevity. So don't talk about mindlessly voting for it. It's a great fighting game. Deal with it and stop b****ing.
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Julian_Caesar posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah, Melee's rallying run is way worse than Undertales. Undeserved and took out the only games that may have made things interesting (without rallies)


Chrono would have been bent over and bummed by Undertale.

People need to get over Chrono losing.


You need to get over your lack of reading comprehension.


nothing chrono done would have been interesting unless we had no rallies for any game period.
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Fou Lu posted...
Oh look, Undertale fans, the better game is losing, yet again. A Link to the Past is far better than Ocarina of Time, yet here we are, the Undertale fans showing off just how hypocritical they are.


LttP is vastly overrated. It's a just a 2D OoT.
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FFVII Remake >>>> Original. Deal With it.
LTTP is overrated within the Zelda hierarchy because it's not nearly as good as Ocarina of Time or Wind Waker but otherwise it's fine. So I wish Ocarina was breaking 60% today but oh well.

On a side note I tried to guess how the x-stats for Ocarina's quarter of the bracket would look, so here's what I got:

1) Ocarina of Time
2) A Link to the Past
3) Majora's Mask
4) Super Metroid
5) Final Fantasy IX
6) Kingdom Hearts
7) Super Mario Galaxy
8) Symphony of the Night
9) Final Fantasy IV
10) Okami
11) Banjo-Kazooie
12) Donkey Kong Country 2
13) Xenoblade
14) Fire Emblem: Awakening
15) Final Fantasy XII
16) Dark Souls
17) Dragon Age
18) Bloodborne
19) Metal Gear Solid V
20) Warcraft III
21) Suikoden II
22) Perfect Dark
23) Valkyria Chronicles
24) Monster Hunter 4
25) Baldur's Gate II
26) Super Mario Maker
27) Phoenix Wright: Trials & Tribulations
28) Deus Ex
29) Civilization V
30) Call of Duty 4
31) Cave Story
32) Hearthstone
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah, Melee's rallying run is way worse than Undertales. Undeserved and took out the only games that may have made things interesting (without rallies)


Chrono would have been bent over and bummed by Undertale.

People need to get over Chrono losing.


You need to get over your fanboyism. Complaining about Undertale in one page and then defending Melee's victory over CT in the next page makes you look like an hypocrite.
I think I'm happier with Melee beating CT than with CT blowing it out (if that's what was going to happen if Melee didn't catch rallies) from a pure preferences standpoint but yeah.
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Maybe MGS3 can still win, we could try rallying David Hayter like that one time.
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Voice of Myself.
What is the closest that MGS 3 came to Mario RPG with the votes?
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
Julian_Caesar posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah, Melee's rallying run is way worse than Undertales. Undeserved and took out the only games that may have made things interesting (without rallies)


Chrono would have been bent over and bummed by Undertale.

People need to get over Chrono losing.


You need to get over your lack of reading comprehension.


nothing chrono done would have been interesting unless we had no rallies for any game period.


>_>

Yeah I know. And in the post you mocked, that's exactly what he said.
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Safer_777 posted...
What is the closest that MGS 3 came to Mario RPG with the votes?


500 votes
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Voice of Myself.
Can someone tweet this David guy?
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124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest!
Super Mario RPG now has its biggest lead of the match.
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It really does seem like the distance between the top and the 'elite' part of the field has narrowed considerably these days, even without rallies.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
LTTP is overrated within the Zelda hierarchy because it's not nearly as good as Ocarina of Time


lol
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While OoT and (especially) FFVII have probably dropped relative to the other elites, I think people also got the wrong idea from 2009 about what exactly the distance between those two and the rest of the field actually was. All the Nintendo SFF and leeching really distorted things.
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AppreciateTrees posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
LTTP is overrated within the Zelda hierarchy because it's not nearly as good as Ocarina of Time


lol


I played LTTP earlier this year and loved it, but it says something when Ocarina of Time has stuck with me more even though it has been over three years since I last played it.

Of course, you think it's that laughable, there were multiple instances when I was playing LTTP where after a few sessions it was hard to want to continue because I was coming off of finishing Wind Waker, my favorite Zelda, and LTTP didn't feel like it measured up. I ended up leaving LTTP untouched for weeks or even months on occasion as a result.
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so MGS 3 really isnt coming back? This may be more of a shock to me at this point than anything else in the contest.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
While OoT and (especially) FFVII have probably dropped relative to the other elites, I think people also got the wrong idea from 2009 about what exactly the distance between those two and the rest of the field actually was. All the Nintendo SFF and leeching really distorted things.


As if we need another reason to laugh at 4ways.

I like how Metroid Prime embarrassed itself that contest but has done very well in our last two games contests. Unless you'd actually take Vice City over Skyrim/Fallout 3 anyway. TBH Prime is probably on the same level as it was in '09, it's just that it was leeched by Paper Mario in that match (for some reason LFF between newer Nintendo games was brutal that contest and led to silly results like Wind Waker losing to Diablo II and, of course, MGS4 beating Brawl and Twilight Princess), GTA and KH benefit from 4ways due to the format mitigating both series' anti-votes, and both those series were probably just more popular in 2009.

That said, the distance between OOT/FFVII and everything else strength-wise reducing just so happens to mirror the distance between Clinkeroth and everything else strength-wise. And lol using the term "Clinkeroth" in this day and age, haven't heard it used in years.

Just to ask, how does FFX do against MGS4 going by direct extrapolation?
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Also am I the only one who thinks FFVII's result on FFVI was legit?

I mean, it has FFVII getting around the same % on Wind Waker that Ocarina got on FFIX.
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guffguy89 posted...
so MGS 3 really isnt coming back? This may be more of a shock to me at this point than anything else in the contest.


Really? I'm actually surprised it isn't winning by more. The way Mario RPG has performed until now seemed to tell the story on this one, barring a rally of some kind. Beating RE4 meant it should have cleared whoever came out of MGS1/3, in my mind.
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There's a rally in the r/metalgearsolid front page but it doesn't seem to be doing much
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Voice of Myself.
It's great to think that the winner of Melee / Undertale is going to 53 / 47 OoT.
This is why the idea of anyone being able to rally is so dumb. It requires an large, active, ideally centralized, community of fans to work effectively. The League of Legends, Undertale (mostly on account of being really new and appealing to a specific group of people), Smash Bros., Pokemon -- mostly, multiplayer and/or competitive games that people are still playing in the thousands today. Rallying a Chrono Trigger or Metal Gear or an old game like Mario 64 is almost impossible to with the same potency and effect. Maybe not for other people, but this is why I actively do not like rallying, or the suggestion that people just need to 'try harder' for these games. Just seems hollow.
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