nopenopenopenop posted...
There's a rally war taking place on /v/ right now between SMRPG and MGS3

Honestly, neither one will win against OoT.


There's currently a rally thread on the front page of MGS's reddit too.
And it still keeps losing updates.
My rough x-stats predicted Ocarina of Time winning with 54%... looks like without the spillover that might be pretty accurate. I didn't actually believe those numbers, but that might end up being pretty accurate.
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This isn't good, is it?
Yesterday's charts:

Time | SSBM | FFVII | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 50.22% | 49.78% | 1149 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 52.76% | 47.24% | 8953 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 53.83% | 46.17% | 22247 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 54.54% | 45.46% | 13279 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 57.79% | 42.21% | 29173 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 58.54% | 41.46% | 26825 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 57.25% | 42.75% | 4575 | (22:00-24:00)

Time | Undertale | Mario 64 | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 33.33% | 66.67% | 1161 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 45.42% | 54.58% | 9284 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 51.68% | 48.32% | 23420 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 51.24% | 48.76% | 14519 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 50.30% | 49.70% | 30448 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 53.79% | 46.21% | 28549 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 53.37% | 46.63% | 4836 | (22:00-24:00)
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LeonhartFour posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Also a link to the past would beat chrono and melee. Lets not kid ourselves. Lttp is about chrono level.


you mean the game that got 52% on the game that went 50/50 with FFX right


Literally using useless 2010 stats. You do all the time and its completely irrelevant to this contest

Chrono trigger would never get 65% on 2010 version of ffx with those high natural votes. Ffx dropped off a lot. By your logic ffx was stronger than brawl that was stronger than melee which chrono only got 60 against.
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Link to the Past bringing it to OOT even with spillover! How heroic our hero is.
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ME3 is now higher in X-Stat than Mario 64:

ME3: 49.05%

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6072-best-game-ever-day-6-undertale-vs-mass-effect-3

Mario 64: only 48.67%

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6172-best-game-ever-day-37-quarterfinal-undertale-vs-super-mario-64

No other games other than Undertale (great game) in Division 3 and 4 has a higher X-stat than ME3. Mass Effect 3 is looking to be the second highest ranked game after the contest is over.
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Lynx_7 posted...
nopenopenopenop posted...
There's a rally war taking place on /v/ right now between SMRPG and MGS3

Honestly, neither one will win against OoT.


There's currently a rally thread on the front page of MGS's reddit too.
And it still keeps losing updates.


RIP. MGS3 looks like it's done.

We really are headed towards a Undertale vs OoT final, huh? I hope this board can at least boost OoT enough so that it stands a chance against a fully powered Undertale rally.
Melee with FF7 trends lol
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Literally using useless 2010 stats. You do all the time and its completely irrelevant to this contest


It's actually predicted a lot of stuff really well!

but please feel free to ignore everything that doesn't support your argument

don't let facts get in the way of a good argument
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There's less spillover here than last round, but remember, LTTP rose 5.5% from this point against MM.
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Does DKC2 affect SMRPG more for being Nintendo'ish on the SNES, or Goldeneye more for being Rare?

Either way, it will take me some time to get used to DKC2 having strength. It did about as well as anyone could ask of it this contest though, and DKC beat Doom despite LoZ:LttP in 2009...gotta give some credit.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Literally using useless 2010 stats. You do all the time and its completely irrelevant to this contest


It's actually predicted a lot of stuff really well!

but please feel free to ignore everything that doesn't support your argument

don't let facts get in the way of a good argument


Not everything. Certainly not matches that involve games that werent in 2010.

Also by tour logic lttp would get 52 %on ffx too.

See how thats using stats from 2010. Unless you believe lttp is worth 52 on ffx in which case youre deluded as hell.
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HaRRicH posted...
Does DKC2 affect SMRPG more for being Nintendo'ish on the SNES, or Goldeneye more for being Rare?


I doubt sharing a third party developer really matters that much, especially when you're different genres and on a different system.
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don't be silly leonheart
legend of zelda minish cap would LFF dino crisis for sure
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People are welcome to pick things against LTTP next contest at their peril. The MM match is 60/40 without spillover, and even higher without a big pic advantage for MM.
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I certainly don't think LTTP comes anywhere close to 65% on FFX. There's really no reason to believe that based on its performances this contest. It only managed 65% on FFIV.
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I really don't think people are going to pick a lot of things against LttP. I mean, maybe CT, sure? But CT looks stronger. A lot stronger! No matter how you slice it!

(LttP will still win, because this is RallyFAQs)
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Even after this contest, what games would people pick over LTTP that wouldn't have been in consideration beforehand anyway? I guess Melee due to its newfound rally power, but that's it.

LTTP is still quite strong and could beat pretty much every game on the site except OoT given the right circumstances. I think CT clearly outclassed it this contest, but who knows how things will be whenever we have the next Games Contest.
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So what do we take away from this result and LttP/MM compared to the old LttP/SM beatdowns?
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Super Metroid and a lot of old SNES classics are apparently a good bit stronger now.

After all the adjustments, MMX could end up being worth nearly as much on LTTP as it got on Link's Awakening.
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I seriously doubt LTTP will gather a rally of significance. The game came out in 1992, it is about as unralliable as CT. I'd be very impressed with CT if it could break 55% though. And nervous about losing.

As for things people will pick.....SSBM, RBY, Mario 64, FF7, and FFX.

Well, FF7 might be possible, but it has a seriously bad losing streak in close matches.
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But those are all games people would have been willing to pick over LTTP before the contest, with the possible exception of Melee. Nothing's really changed there.
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For our upcoming bonus matches, I would like to propose the following set-up:

Day 1 - CT/FFVII, OoT/RBY, SMB3/SMW, SM64/LTTP
Day 2 - CT/OoT, FFVII/RBY

That's 6 bonus matches over the course of 2 days, with CT/OoT on Day 2 to avoid rally spillover. On day 1, I threw in a heated SMB3/SMW match to decide the strongest Mario game. Based on what we've seen with SNES beasting this contest, I feel pretty good about SMW possibly being the strongest Mario game. I couldn't neglect SM64 here, so I threw it against LTTP.

I wonder what you guys think about this set-up?
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People would pick ffx over lttp pre-contest?

Anyway, I probably underrate chrono trigger this year more than almost anyone on board 8 but I'm 99% sure it would beat lttp.
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Whoa I really don't think anyone's gonna pick FFX considering Majora had everything in its corner against LttP and still lost.

...well maybe Leonhart but c'mon the rest of us will know better
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Huh, just looked at it and MGS3 is doing really well in North America compared to SMRPG's past opponents. SMRPG has been at 60% or better in North America against most of its opponents, but it's only at 55% against MGS3.

And while it's too early to say it'll stay this high, MGS3 is at 70% on SMRPG in the UK right now.

Maybe MGS3 could make a run at this. Or maybe the Tumblr spillover favored MGS3 more than we expected and SMRPG will even this out come daytime.
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How do we know that we're getting multiple days of bonus polls?
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Oh, I missed FFX on his list there.

At this point, even I wouldn't seriously entertain FFX > LTTP.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
How do we know that we're getting multiple days of bonus polls?


We don't. We're just being hopeful.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
For our upcoming bonus matches, I would like to propose the following set-up:

Day 1 - CT/FFVII, OoT/RBY, SMB3/SMW, SM64/LTTP
Day 2 - CT/OoT, FFVII/RBY

That's 6 bonus matches over the course of 2 days, with CT/OoT on Day 2 to avoid rally spillover. On day 1, I threw in a heated SMB3/SMW match to decide the strongest Mario game. Based on what we've seen with SNES beasting this contest, I feel pretty good about SMW possibly being the strongest Mario game. I couldn't neglect SM64 here, so I threw it against LTTP.

I wonder what you guys think about this set-up?


I really don't like this. RBY in particular is basically guaranteed to pollute surrounding matches with its rallies.
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We don't know if we will get multiple days of bonus polls, but I think Allen would be willing to do something like that. I don't think Allen would allow more than 2 days of bonus polls, though.
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12/11/2015 10:24:46 PM#486
We don't know if we are getting any bonus polls at all, yet.
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LeonhartFour posted...
But those are all games people would have been willing to pick over LTTP before the contest, with the possible exception of Melee. Nothing's really changed there.


And this contest should have made people less willing to pick things over LTTP. I mean, a lot of those are completely reasonable based on 2009. SM64 was 200 votes away from winning, FFVII crushed it, etc.
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Karma Hunter posted...
I really don't like this. RBY in particular is basically guaranteed to pollute surrounding matches with its rallies.


It's a f***ing bonus match, so there's no point to get a rally going. We already saw against Undertale that RBY had difficulty getting a rally because a lot of people hate the Gen 1 games.
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12/11/2015 10:26:35 PM#489
Well, I still don't trust those Pokemon fans so it's probably best to leave RBY on the sidelines.
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Eh, I've always considered the 2009 final to be a worthless result for gauging FFX and LTTP even though it's an extremely favorable comparison for FFX. Everyone knew what was gonna happen there.

Mario 64 seems to be the one outlier for LTTP and CT both.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
so there's no point to get a rally going.


Luster please tell me you don't actually believe this
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And what makes you think a rally might show up in a bonus match?
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Cloud

&

Sephiroth

VS

Red

&

Blue
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
And what makes you think a rally might show up in a bonus match?


Because the match doesn't actually have to count for anything for it to matter.

We literally had 4chan rally for Battletoads in a random POTD.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Cloud

&

Sephiroth

VS

Red

&

Blue


That wasn't even a rally, at least in the sense of people trying to go on other sites to get votes for the Pokemon Trainers. What we saw near the end of that match was an increase in vote totals from casual GameFAQs users taking notice of the match being close and putting in their votes to kill off Cloud/Sephiroth. Many of these casuals weren't even aware that it was a bonus match.
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Link to the Past vs. Super Mario World feels like something the former should easily win due to precedent and the hierarchy but their performances probably aren't far apart.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
For our upcoming bonus matches, I would like to propose the following set-up:

Day 1 - CT/FFVII, OoT/RBY, SMB3/SMW, SM64/LTTP
Day 2 - CT/OoT, FFVII/RBY

That's 6 bonus matches over the course of 2 days, with CT/OoT on Day 2 to avoid rally spillover. On day 1, I threw in a heated SMB3/SMW match to decide the strongest Mario game. Based on what we've seen with SNES beasting this contest, I feel pretty good about SMW possibly being the strongest Mario game. I couldn't neglect SM64 here, so I threw it against LTTP.

I wonder what you guys think about this set-up?


I'd like to see

CT/FF7, Pokemon/SMW

OOT vs winner of CT/FF7, SM64 vs winner of Pokemon/SMW
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You do see the difference in votals of FF7/Trainers compared to the rest of the RR, right
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Melee Undertale.
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