Undertale Fangirls voting 55-45 in favour of FFVII it look like.
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Karma Hunter posted...
You can just briefly scan any of the stats topics or any of the other archived topics from the board on Pokemon/Undertale. The amount of rallying that was going on that day for Pokemon was ludicrous. Not just the sources that could be rallied from, but the fervent obsessiveness of the sheer number of fans rallying All. Damn. Day. for Pokemon speaks for itself.

You took your best shot and got creamed. I don't expect you to have any dignity about it, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna keep throwing it back in your face~


your whole reverse jinx attempt is hilarious lol
It worked for me!

Of course, I was actually trying to get Pokemon to lose!
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Lol I was on the stats topic all day and Pokemon rallying didn't seem close to the type of rally melee is pulling but I could be wrong.

I'm gonna be pulling all stops on Sunday. Rally like 50 groups and s***.
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BTW, I think it's hilarious that Mario RPG beating RE4 has the lowest prediction precentage of any non-Undertale match. In a way, it really did turn out to be the surprise of the contest.
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Lol I was on the stats topic all day and Pokemon rallying didn't seem close to the type of rally melee is pulling but I could be wrong.

I'm gonna be pulling all stops on Sunday. Rally like 50 groups and s***.


I dunno, I feel like Pokemon would have crushed CT a lot more than Melee did with the rallying it had, but of course it's hard to judge.
Pokemon fans definitely tried hard, but it got a lot of backfire due to people hating Gen 1. That's an advantage Melee has in that its rally attempts probably won't backfire as hard.

However, it will be facing a stronger Undertale than Pokemon did.
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Averia posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Lol I was on the stats topic all day and Pokemon rallying didn't seem close to the type of rally melee is pulling but I could be wrong.

I'm gonna be pulling all stops on Sunday. Rally like 50 groups and s***.


I dunno, I feel like Pokemon would have crushed CT a lot more than Melee did with the rallying it had, but of course it's hard to judge.


It would have, although part of this is that Pokemon is just straight up stronger than Melee in natural strength. By quite a bit (Pokemon doesn't fail to break 55% on Kingdom Hearts 2, for example).

But still, Rallied Melee's never shown it can hang with Rallied Pokemon. The projected total rallied votes in Pokemon/Undertale speaks for itself.
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Pokemon fans may have rallied a ton of places, but it doesn't mean their rally was effective. Melee rallied from a lot of sources too, but I'm pretty sure around 70% of the votes from that Melee rally was just Reddit.
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Melee has a pretty big backfire rate too for the same reasons Gen 1 has a backfire rate in Pokemon. I don't think it's as large as say, Brawl's, but it's there.
Karma Hunter posted...
Averia posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Lol I was on the stats topic all day and Pokemon rallying didn't seem close to the type of rally melee is pulling but I could be wrong.

I'm gonna be pulling all stops on Sunday. Rally like 50 groups and s***.


I dunno, I feel like Pokemon would have crushed CT a lot more than Melee did with the rallying it had, but of course it's hard to judge.


It would have, although part of this is that Pokemon is just straight up stronger than Melee in natural strength. By quite a bit (Pokemon doesn't fail to break 55% on Kingdom Hearts 2, for example).

But still, Rallied Melee's never shown it can hang with Rallied Pokemon. The projected total rallied votes in Pokemon/Undertale speaks for itself.


What? Of course there were more votes in Pokemon/Undertale, Undertale's rally pulled in 60k votes.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Averia posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Lol I was on the stats topic all day and Pokemon rallying didn't seem close to the type of rally melee is pulling but I could be wrong.

I'm gonna be pulling all stops on Sunday. Rally like 50 groups and s***.


I dunno, I feel like Pokemon would have crushed CT a lot more than Melee did with the rallying it had, but of course it's hard to judge.


It would have, although part of this is that Pokemon is just straight up stronger than Melee in natural strength. By quite a bit (Pokemon doesn't fail to break 55% on Kingdom Hearts 2, for example).

But still, Rallied Melee's never shown it can hang with Rallied Pokemon. The projected total rallied votes in Pokemon/Undertale speaks for itself.


lol that was like 10% of Melees power.

IF i recall you were responding fast and furoous when Melee was rallying against CT. Scared even. Calm down. Most likely if Melees rallies don't pick up Undertale will obviously win.

But i can sense fear inside you. Also you're talking rubbish about pokemon rallies. Saying "here there and everywhere" is just a throwaway comment. Pokemon was really only being rallied on friggin Reddit with a crappy community. Enough to get it to a 7k lead mind you but still crappy.

Again you're not addressing my point. The rallies were minor for Pokemon. Unless you're being stupid and think undertales fanbase is somewhat bigger than pokemon now.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Averia posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Lol I was on the stats topic all day and Pokemon rallying didn't seem close to the type of rally melee is pulling but I could be wrong.

I'm gonna be pulling all stops on Sunday. Rally like 50 groups and s***.


I dunno, I feel like Pokemon would have crushed CT a lot more than Melee did with the rallying it had, but of course it's hard to judge.


It would have, although part of this is that Pokemon is just straight up stronger than Melee in natural strength. By quite a bit (Pokemon doesn't fail to break 55% on Kingdom Hearts 2, for example).

But still, Rallied Melee's never shown it can hang with Rallied Pokemon. The projected total rallied votes in Pokemon/Undertale speaks for itself.


We'll see on Sunday
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You got me dead to rights, I'm positively terrified Melee will make the finals, yep, that's me
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red sox 777 posted...
Pokemon fans may have rallied a ton of places, but it doesn't mean their rally was effective. Melee rallied from a lot of sources too, but I'm pretty sure around 70% of the votes from that Melee rally was just Reddit.


This.

KH thinks pokemon was mega rallied and still lost. Give me a break kid. Undertale at the end of the day is winning because of this sites piss poor Votals and userbase numbers. Thats just a fact. 10 years ago undertale gets stomped by any decent midcarder who is able to pull off 50-60k votes without ANY rallies.
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Karma Hunter posted...
You got me dead to rights, I'm positively terrified Melee will make the finals, yep, that's me


why were you being hyperactive then?

Melee was the first game(except undertale) to have any sort of rally work in this contest. Rallies can build overtime too. Undertale has had the entire contest.
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Pokemon fans may have rallied a ton of places, but it doesn't mean their rally was effective. Melee rallied from a lot of sources too, but I'm pretty sure around 70% of the votes from that Melee rally was just Reddit.


This.

KH thinks pokemon was mega rallied and still lost. Give me a break kid. Undertale at the end of the day is winning because of this sites piss poor Votals and userbase numbers. Thats just a fact. 10 years ago undertale gets stomped by any decent midcarder who is able to pull off 50-60k votes without ANY rallies.


I'm wondering if the size of the fanbases even matters. I mean sure Draven was stronger than Undertale but LoL is more than 20 times bigger than Undertale and yet the Undertale rallies are like what ? Half a Draven, at worse a third ?
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
You got me dead to rights, I'm positively terrified Melee will make the finals, yep, that's me


why were you being hyperactive then?

Melee was the first game(except undertale) to have any sort of rally work in this contest. Rallies can build overtime too. Undertale has had the entire contest.


he has Melee to the finals in his bracket, he's trying some bizarre reverse jinx
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
You got me dead to rights, I'm positively terrified Melee will make the finals, yep, that's me


why were you being hyperactive then?

Melee was the first game(except undertale) to have any sort of rally work in this contest. Rallies can build overtime too. Undertale has had the entire contest.


He has Melee in the finals bruh
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So rallies on Reddit are allowed or not?
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Hey how dare you call me a reverse jinxer I don't believe in that kind of thing

I do believe in riling up a fanbase to its maximum butthurt potential tho
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Safer_777 posted...
So rallies on Reddit are allowed or not?


It's up to each individual subreddit whether they allow it or not.

The LoL subreddit doesn't allow it anymore, for instance.
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12/11/2015 12:35:18 PM#424
Safer_777 posted...
So rallies on Reddit are allowed or not?


Depends on the subreddit rules.
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Kingdom Hearts II > FFVII apparently
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So do we think MGS2 or MGS4 is stronger at this point?
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Averia posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Pokemon fans may have rallied a ton of places, but it doesn't mean their rally was effective. Melee rallied from a lot of sources too, but I'm pretty sure around 70% of the votes from that Melee rally was just Reddit.


This.

KH thinks pokemon was mega rallied and still lost. Give me a break kid. Undertale at the end of the day is winning because of this sites piss poor Votals and userbase numbers. Thats just a fact. 10 years ago undertale gets stomped by any decent midcarder who is able to pull off 50-60k votes without ANY rallies.


I'm wondering if the size of the fanbases even matters. I mean sure Draven was stronger than Undertale but LoL is more than 20 times bigger than Undertale and yet the Undertale rallies are like what ? Half a Draven, at worse a third ?


fanbase on a paticular source.

You will not find a bigger undertale fanbase than Tumblr most likely. IT's an indie game thats grown in popularity but it's still not that popular.

Draven was being rallied on Reddit alone.


League has several sources on the internet where theres far bigger communites for LoL
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Whens ths undertale mega rally going to kick in then?

I need Undertale to go to 56% already for the spread.


Wheres that troll Undertale Bot
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AxemRedRanger posted...
So do we think MGS2 or MGS4 is stronger at this point?


If MGS2 = MGS4, KH2 beats RE4 with 54.69%.

If you assume KH2 and RE4 are equal, then MGS2 55/45s MGS4.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Safer_777 posted...
So rallies on Reddit are allowed or not?


Depends on the subreddit rules.

Actually in general it's not because you can report posts for vote manipulation.

It's just that a lot of subs let it slide.
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WhiteLens posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Safer_777 posted...
So rallies on Reddit are allowed or not?


Depends on the subreddit rules.

Actually in general it's not because you can report posts for vote manipulation.

It's just that a lot of subs let it slide.


Sons of b****es didn't ban it 2 years ago did they.
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WhiteLens posted...
Actually in general it's not because you can report posts for vote manipulation.

I thought that was only internal.
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I'm sorry..but Why are people ignoring the fact that Melee is gaining consistent 80+ updates against friggin FFVII??

IT's had far larger rallying power than undertale in this match so far and if you replace FFVII with SM64, FFVII probably still has a massive lead that undertale would chew away.
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Welp, Undertale's percentage is going up. We're f*****
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It's only considered "vote manipulation" on Reddit if it involves manipulating Reddit up/downvotes. There are some subreddits that consider it the same thing though like r/nintendo.
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I admit I haven't looked at any charts because I can't muster up the energy to care, but I've assumed that Melee is being favored by the Undertale rally too so it getting big updates as we move into the timeframe that Undertale has typically taken off is no surprise.

Is there reason to suspect this isn't the case?
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xp1337 posted...
I admit I haven't looked at any charts because I can't muster up the energy to care, but I've assumed that Melee is being favored by the Undertale rally too so it getting big updates as we move into the timeframe that Undertale has typically taken off is no surprise.

Is there reason to suspect this isn't the case?


Melee was getting huge updates when SM64 was cutting undertale too.
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xp1337 posted...
I admit I haven't looked at any charts because I can't muster up the energy to care, but I've assumed that Melee is being favored by the Undertale rally too so it getting big updates as we move into the timeframe that Undertale has typically taken off is no surprise.

Is there reason to suspect this isn't the case?


I think it's favoring Melee a bit, but it is not that well correlated. Melee rallying has been having a bigger effect supporting SM64 I think.
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red sox 777 posted...
xp1337 posted...
I admit I haven't looked at any charts because I can't muster up the energy to care, but I've assumed that Melee is being favored by the Undertale rally too so it getting big updates as we move into the timeframe that Undertale has typically taken off is no surprise.

Is there reason to suspect this isn't the case?


I think it's favoring Melee a bit, but it is not that well correlated. Melee rallying has been having a bigger effect supporting SM64 I think.


Man...if ONLY pokemon red was in this match..MAN!!
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
Wheres that troll Undertale Bot

https://twitter.com/undertale_bot

Nothing yet, gotta wait until someone gets out of school.

xp1337 posted...
WhiteLens posted...
Actually in general it's not because you can report posts for vote manipulation.

I thought that was only internal.

Is it? I didn't read up on what that rule specified.
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Hmm. Still don't think Melee has any chance unless it reveals a yet unseen gear.

But I'll concede my assumption was wrong.
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And yeah, it seems we got some Melee tweets a little while ago, which temporarily drove vote intake for the SSBM/FF7 match higher than UT/SM64. Along with as much of a stall as Mario is going to get in the ASV.
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xp1337 posted...
Hmm. Still don't think Melee has any chance unless it reveals a yet unseen gear.

But I'll concede my assumption was wrong.


IT would need to be rallied by the big boys.
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How there is not a single rally for FF 7? Everyone is talking about it! Eh whatever, I think it will reach above 40% at least. But seriously KH 2>FF 7?
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Safer_777 posted...
How there is not a single rally for FF 7? Everyone is talking about it! Eh whatever, I think it will reach above 40% at least. But seriously KH 2>FF 7?


The day when FFVII manages to reach 40%+ on Melee

Love it.
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Safer_777 posted...
How there is not a single rally for FF 7?


You take your time on this one.
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I wonder if we will even see super Undertale today ?
It's ahead and still gaining, so I wonder if they will bother setting the big rallies.
(or activate the bot farms if you are on that theory)
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KH2 > FF7 would be amazing, but i could never see it actually happening in a match even if STATS or whatever would say otherwise. I know it's being rallied, but Melee is really embarrassing VII here. VII in general has been looking embarrassing in contests lately though especially with the last character one.
Averia posted...
I wonder if we will even see super Undertale today ?
It's ahead and still gaining, so I wonder if they will bother setting the big rallies.
(or activate the bot farms if you are on that theory)


No point really. Which is pathetic. Because it means Mario 64 will get a decnet % against it.
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12/11/2015 12:53:21 PM#450
LeonhartFour posted...
Safer_777 posted...
How there is not a single rally for FF 7?


You take your time on this one.


I actually don't get this one either. Our site is hardly the only one that likes FF7.
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