Think about what matches we could have had today instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5K-NNmgTM
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Holy **** Undertale. Holy **** Melee.
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ZFS posted...
pjbasis posted...
lead changes and upsets for the sake of it don't really appeal to me so no I think it is a more boring contest overall because of rallies


Yep, same!


Same.

I'm a little frustrated about Melee rallying past Chrono Trigger because it was fun to see the latter crush everything in its path and had things played out "naturally" all my pre-contest talk about Chrono Trigger winning its division because it has simply looked better in these contests than Melee (and FFX) would have made me look like a genius. Although maybe it still does. I have very little idea which of the two games I actually like more so that way I just flat-out didn't care.

Though the only real reason I didn't pick Melee to win the division was because picking it to win a division in GOTD didn't work.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Nintendo just hasn't been the same since Metroid: Other M. What an awful turn of events for what used to be a great company.


Hasn't been great since 2006 tbh. Once twilight princess got delayed and was announced for wii nintendo were dead to me.


This is such a silly reason to dislike an entire company or something. I have issues with some modern Nintendo stuff (I like Melee more than Brawl/Wii U and think the release schedule on the Wii U has been ridiculously barren even by post-SNES Nintendo standards), but to just write off the entire company is completely asinine. You're missing out on a lot of great games if you haven't given them a try.

Safer_777 posted...
What I don't understand is why Smash people didn't rally for Smash Wii U. It is the newest game after all.


Half of r/smashbros doesn't like that game, and the half that does admits that it has problems. Meanwhile Melee is a game that the entire sub worships, even the Smash Wii U players.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Think about what matches we could have had today instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5K-NNmgTM


This, yeah. We would have seen Chrono Trigger upset Final Fantasy VII - so much for all the "I don't want to see a repeat of OOT vs. FFVII" complaints - and either an(other?) epic Mario vs. Pokémon match or a settling of the Mario series hierarchy once and for all.

But rallies shouldn't be banned just to let us have our way, that's selfish. Know where to draw the line.
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God, this doesn't even look like the s***show people were hoping for. I've been asleep so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Undertale and Melee took the leads pretty easily. The tumblr rally didn't save FFVII, and the Melee rally didn't save Mario 64.
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_SJimW_ posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Nintendo just hasn't been the same since Metroid: Other M. What an awful turn of events for what used to be a great company.


Hasn't been great since 2006 tbh. Once twilight princess got delayed and was announced for wii nintendo were dead to me.


This is such a silly reason to dislike an entire company or something. I have issues with some modern Nintendo stuff (I like Melee more than Brawl/Wii U and think the release schedule on the Wii U has been ridiculously barren even by post-SNES Nintendo standards), but to just write off the entire company is completely asinine. You're missing out on a lot of great games if you haven't given them a try.

Safer_777 posted...
What I don't understand is why Smash people didn't rally for Smash Wii U. It is the newest game after all.


Half of r/smashbros doesn't like that game, and the half that does admits that it has problems. Meanwhile Melee is a game that the entire sub worships, even the Smash Wii U players.


I will admit for me that Twilight Princess and Other M ended up turning me off from newer Nintendo, but that's just because they're not as good as their predecessors.

Twilight Princess especially is a weird case, it feels like a massive disappointment compared to Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker but otherwise I love it.
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MechanicalWall posted...
God, this doesn't even look like the s***show people were hoping for. I've been asleep so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Undertale and Melee took the leads pretty easily. The tumblr rally didn't save FFVII, and the Melee rally didn't save Mario 64.


Seems like Undertale fans vote for Melee instead of FFVII , so yeah.
But if you pretend Undertale doesn't have it's uber mode in 10 hours or so, you can think SM64/Undertale is a close match !
I don't think they should be banned since there's no practical way to do that without even worse side effects
But that doesn't mean I can't think they suck (also speaking of being selfish, I think it's pretty selfish to rally since you're basically saying your opinion is worth more than everyone else's. I don't really blame the people actually being rallied, but boo ralliers)
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
That I agree with.
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"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
But if you pretend Undertale doesn't have it's uber mode in 10 hours or so, you can think SM64/Undertale is a close match !

Pretty much, if this was round 1 we'd be going pretty crazy right now
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFVII > CT, SM64 > Pokemon RBYG
Points 195/256
(edited 12/11/2015 4:57:38 AM)report
MechanicalWall posted...
God, this doesn't even look like the s***show people were hoping for. I've been asleep so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Undertale and Melee took the leads pretty easily. The tumblr rally didn't save FFVII, and the Melee rally didn't save Mario 64.

The Melee rally saving SM64 pretty much depended on the Tumblr vote going to FFVII. Unless Melee was losing there was no way they were going to rally hard enough to have an effect on SM64/Undertale.

Also I was expecting SM64 to at least try to counterrally; that would have been necessary too.
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
LordoftheMorons posted...
I don't think they should be banned since there's no practical way to do that without even worse side effects
But that doesn't mean I can't think they suck (also speaking of being selfish, I think it's pretty selfish to rally since you're basically saying your opinion is worth more than everyone else's. I don't really blame the people actually being rallied, but boo ralliers)


What about your opinion plus the opinions of every people you are rallying? They don't count?
LordoftheMorons posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
God, this doesn't even look like the s***show people were hoping for. I've been asleep so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Undertale and Melee took the leads pretty easily. The tumblr rally didn't save FFVII, and the Melee rally didn't save Mario 64.

The Melee rally saving SM64 pretty much depended on the Tumblr vote going to FFVII. Unless Melee was losing there was no way they were going to rally hard enough to have an effect on SM64/Undertale.

Also I was expecting SM64 to at least try to counterrally; that would have been necessary too.


For what it's worth there's a comment in the rally topic on r/smashbros somewhat close to the top explaining why voting for SM64 is beneficial for Melee:
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3wbzuv/help_super_smash_bros_melee_win_gamefaqs_best/cxv3hll
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
What about your opinion plus the opinions of every people you are rallying? They don't count?

You're bringing in a highly non-representative sample of people. In rallying, you are choosing the sample, so you are effectively deciding the vote. If those people being rallied had found their way to the poll themselves, it would be fine, but in a rally one person is actually choosing how things go (assuming the rally is big enough).
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Just think how bad Chrono Trigger will look in the x-stats!
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Also I was expecting SM64 to at least try to counterrally; that would have been necessary too.


I mean, we all knew that these older games just don't have a real source with which to mount a counterrally. After all, the best place to rally for Mario 64 would've been GameFAQs itself, and so much for that.
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Yeah, SM64 is at a huge disadvantage rallying-wise, but SMW managed to actually do something (though I think that was mostly /v/ which seems to have switched allegiances this match)
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
There's also 12k more votes in this match compared to what SMW had to deal with.
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFVII > CT, SM64 > Pokemon RBYG
Points 195/256
Well, there goes my bracket
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185/256 pts - the GameFAQs' 20th Anniversary Best. Game. Ever. Contest!
NP: Final Fantasy VII/Super Mario 64
CT > FF7 in the x-stats

all that matters tbh
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Communists
Undertale fans: "Oh my, I just have no idea how a Melee vs. Undertale match-up would end like! It sounds so exciting! Gee, I can't wait to see how that goes! May the best man win. :)"
Melee fans: "We are aware Melee is toast next round."

heh
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So yesterday, people didn't vote for "the better game", since Castlevania Symphony of the Night lost to the horrid Ocarina of Time, but today, everyone is voting for the better games?... This site is filled with a ton of hypocrites.
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I smolder with generic rage.
Fou Lu posted...
So yesterday, people didn't vote for "the better game", since Castlevania Symphony of the Night lost to the horrid Ocarina of Time, but today, everyone is voting for the better games?... This site is filled with a ton of hypocrites.

You should make a topic about these revolutionary thoughts so they can be discussed at large.
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.-#Elements of Water#-.
Surskit posted...
Undertale fans: "Oh my, I just have no idea how a Melee vs. Undertale match-up would end like! It sounds so exciting! Gee, I can't wait to see how that goes! May the best man win. :)"
Melee fans: "We are aware Melee is toast next round."

heh


That's what I'm saying. I don't really oppose Undertale's rally in concept, but these people need to stop acting like Undertale is still the underdog in this competition. It has more than 50k votes ready to go in any given match. What in the f*** is supposed to match it?
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MechanicalWall posted...
Surskit posted...
Undertale fans: "Oh my, I just have no idea how a Melee vs. Undertale match-up would end like! It sounds so exciting! Gee, I can't wait to see how that goes! May the best man win. :)"
Melee fans: "We are aware Melee is toast next round."

heh


That's what I'm saying. I don't really oppose Undertale's rally in concept, but these people need to stop acting like Undertale is still the underdog in this competition. It has more than 50k votes ready to go in any given match. What in the f*** is supposed to match it?


Pretending to be an underdog brings more attention to the rally.
Yeah, Undertale has long since passed the point of being an underdog. It's like WWE pretending Roman Reigns is the underdog even though everyone knows he's the golden boy.

So here's what you do. Take the limiters off and groom OoT like y'all groomed Link/Mewtwo/Snake to take on Draven two years ago.
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handsomeboy2012 posted...
Pretending to be an underdog brings more attention to the rally.


Oh, I know why they do it when rallying on tumblr itself, but they don't need to come to Board 8 and try to convince us that "Poor Undertale might not have a shot at winning its next match : ("
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Actually, regarding this:
LordoftheMorons posted...
You're bringing in a highly non-representative sample of people. In rallying, you are choosing the sample, so you are effectively deciding the vote. If those people being rallied had found their way to the poll themselves, it would be fine, but in a rally one person is actually choosing how things go (assuming the rally is big enough).

I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall every time someone argues that just because rallies are not against the rules they're not giving Undertale a hugely disproportionate advantage that no other game in the contest has access to. Like, am I insane? I don't see how this isn't obvious.
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
MechanicalWall posted...
handsomeboy2012 posted...
Pretending to be an underdog brings more attention to the rally.


Oh, I know why they do it when rallying on tumblr itself, but they don't need to come to Board 8 and try to convince us that "Poor Undertale might not have a shot at winning its next match : ("

In their defense, it's probable most of them don't know the numbers behind it and just think Undertale has lucked out so far.
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.-#Elements of Water#-.
LordoftheMorons posted...
Actually, regarding this:
LordoftheMorons posted...
You're bringing in a highly non-representative sample of people. In rallying, you are choosing the sample, so you are effectively deciding the vote. If those people being rallied had found their way to the poll themselves, it would be fine, but in a rally one person is actually choosing how things go (assuming the rally is big enough).

I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall every time someone argues that just because rallies are not against the rules they're not giving Undertale a hugely disproportionate advantage that no other game in the contest has access to. Like, am I insane? I don't see how this isn't obvious.


Every game has equal access to rallies. Had Pokemon fans actually showed up, rby would have won.
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Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
UItimaterializer posted...
Every game has equal access to rallies. Had Pokemon fans actually showed up, rby would have won.

Uhhhhh
you know that's not true

Pokemon had a chance. Most other games would have had absolutely none. Undertale has a huge, super intense fanbase that grew off of several preexisting fanbases. Not every game has that large of an online presence, and VERY few have an online community that would be this receptive to a rally.
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(edited 12/11/2015 6:05:42 AM)report
Wow, FFVII is losing? I guess FFVII has lost a lot of strength over the years.

I'm surprised that Undertale has already taken a lead, I thought this would of happened a couple of hours from now.
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(edited 12/11/2015 6:20:21 AM)report
Pokemon put up a great fight off of one tweet and one reddit topic. Had serebii and the hang showed up, this contest is over.
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Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
Mario is not going down quietly.
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Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
UItimaterializer posted...
Mario is not going down quietly.


It will, though. This isn't even Undertale's best time, and it's already taken the lead. Once afternoon hits, Mario 64's gonna die.
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Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses
I wonder how this would have gone on a weekend. I dunno, maybe Mario can make a game of it.

At this point, I'm rooting for high vote totals.
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Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
Over 50k total votes already. This is easily clearing 120.
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Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
Well, that depends on whether the rallies get too far ahead and lay off or not.
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
Looks like Bayonetta 2 is probably going to be the Ultimate Loser.
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[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
And if OoT pulls off the miracle it's Arkham City?
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
While I like the comeback, it is in SM64's best interest to let Undertale hold the lead and hope the ralliers think it doesn't need as much help


Mario is only about 600 votes behind what Pokemon had last round.
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFVII > CT, SM64 > Pokemon RBYG
Points 195/256
Surskit posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
handsomeboy2012 posted...
Pretending to be an underdog brings more attention to the rally.


Oh, I know why they do it when rallying on tumblr itself, but they don't need to come to Board 8 and try to convince us that "Poor Undertale might not have a shot at winning its next match : ("

In their defense, it's probable most of them don't know the numbers behind it and just think Undertale has lucked out so far.


Mostly this, but it's also has the "indie vs. AAA" thing going for it as well. It helps when a few game reviewers also tweeted during it's run.

I find it absurd that its matching r/lol rally power from 2013 during worlds purely off tumblr and a small, but active subreddit.
Mario is back in the lead.

but for how long?
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sharp.
distance.
Probably after the ASV begins, or at least that will be the final time it will hold a lead.
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFVII > CT, SM64 > Pokemon RBYG
Points 195/256
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At 10:20 AM, we're getting close to 12% ahead of Undertale/Pokemon vote votals. If It stakes at this pace, we're looking at about 134K.
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Mario 64 does not need a Melee rally to make a game of this.

A major FFVII rally should also favor Mario pretty heavily.
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What if
What if Super Mario 64 is a f***ing beast and this is Undertale true form...!
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Mario's only chance is keeping this close all day and winning late. Undertale is at its strongest when losing.
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Get the X out.
Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.

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