Korota posted...
Dude, Mario, Pokemon and so on are TITANS of videogaming. Undertale fans honestly think they need to give it their all to win against them. I am on Undertale's side and have been watching it win repeatedly and I STILL don't feel certain it can beat OoT, or even FF7 if it pulls through.


Well, they already beat SMW and their rally gets stronger each round. Like, I'm not saying they should have thought Undertale was invincible (though I certainly think the evidence points to that), but there is absolutely nothing pointing towards Undertale being the underdog in any match from here on out.

Like I don't actually blame anyone watching casually for thinking that, but it's a little amusing watching from here understanding how monstrous this rally's potential really is.
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12/10/2015 10:55:38 PM#402
ha

Undertale while ahead is not as strong!
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Mario 64 gets a cut. Of course, vote totals fell off a cliff there. That was our first update with less than 500 votes.
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Undertale finally losing an update is perfectly timed with an FF7 stall

I love this rally
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wait did SM64 just cut

what
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a cut worthy of a top 3 game on this site
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Now all SM64 has to do is rally its ass off

and it can come back from behind to win the 2 hour match
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Korota posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Whenever I look at these Undertale rally threads there's always someone saying "I don't know guys, I don't think we'll be able to do it today! [SMW/Pokemon/SM64/etc] is going to be too strong!"

And like, I guess it makes sense if you're only casually following this but


Dude, Mario, Pokemon and so on are TITANS of videogaming. Undertale fans honestly think they need to give it their all to win against them. I am on Undertale's side and have been watching it win repeatedly and I STILL don't feel certain it can beat OoT, or even FF7 if it pulls through.


Please dont put ffvii and oot in the same level. Ffvii cant even beat unrallied melee
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Our increase in votals over Pokemon/Undertale will continue to increase for a while, too. At this point in that match, we were drawing in about 450 votes per update. Right now we're drawing about 600. That is 33% more, which means that the rate in which we are gaining votals over that match is actually increasing. We could be on pace for an unprecedented number of votes by morning.

(And by unprecedented I mean close to top 10 all-time and possibly beating every non-L-Block match. The rallying would have to keep up through the day tomorrow, though, and we don't know how well Undertale does while it's leading.)

EDIT: Votals fell off a cliff that last update. We'll see what happens the next 10 minutes.
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I kind of want to see FFVII/SM64 both magically win for the troll factor

oh well
Yeah think that eliminates any doubt about the Undertale vote going to Melee
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LeonhartFour posted...
a cut worthy of a top 3 game on this site


Are you completely dismissing the notion? It still can be. I'd say Top 4-5 is very possible and Top 3 isn't a big stretch.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
Please dont put ffvii and oot in the same level. Ffvii cant even beat unrallied melee

Melee is effectively rallied due to Undertale
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12/10/2015 10:59:44 PM#414
How lazy are the ralliers? Apparently very lazy.
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SM64 has minimal rally potential, so it has a 0% chance of being a Top 3 game on this site.
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No, I'm being sarcastic because people were talking about how good Mario 64 was doing early on even though it's on pace to get trucked harder than any Undertale opponent so far.

Like I said, these Undertale matches tell us nothing about any of its opponents.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
How lazy are the ralliers? Apparently very lazy.



Give us a break, it's the very very early AM for most of us, the rallies rarely pick up until the early afternoon in earnest anyhow.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Please dont put ffvii and oot in the same level. Ffvii cant even beat unrallied melee

Melee is effectively rallied due to Undertale


Not all votes going to melee and its not the same as being rallied
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Melee gains 93 more with its highest percentage update of the match so far. Undertale....gains 27. The Smash rally is having some effect too, eh?
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12/10/2015 11:02:40 PM#420
As much as I like Undertale, watching this happen to Melee will be painful.
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red sox 777 posted...
Melee gains 93 more with its highest percentage update of the match so far. Undertale....gains 27. The Smash rally is having some effect too, eh?


It doesn't feel like the Melee rally is picking up any traction. It's been sitting in the middle of the first page of hot topics for over an hour now.
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Karma Hunter posted...
SM64 has minimal rally potential, so it has a 0% chance of being a Top 3 game on this site.


This makes no sense. By your logic world of warcraft or a league would be #1 on this site.

The games standing is how strong it is on gamefaqs. Undertale might win the contest but in 2 years time will be complete fodder. You cant use rallies to determine a games strength kn this site
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LeonhartFour posted...
No, I'm being sarcastic because people were talking about how good Mario 64 was doing early on even though it's on pace to get trucked harder than any Undertale opponent so far.

Like I said, these Undertale matches tell us nothing about any of its opponents.
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I agree with your second statement. Your first I don't really agree with. Mario is holding up really well. We didn't see any Tumblr posts with hundreds of notes by 2 am in any previous matches. We have multiple ones of those today. This is a different (and not necessarily better; the well is not infinite and any votes used tonight won't be used tomorrow) Undertale and presumably one that is, by definition, less backloaded.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
As much as I like Undertale, watching this happen to Melee will be painful.


Well it needs to be rallied. Thats a given.
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12/10/2015 11:04:09 PM#425
KiraKara posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
How lazy are the ralliers? Apparently very lazy.



Give us a break, it's the very very early AM for most of us, the rallies rarely pick up until the early afternoon in earnest anyhow.


The comment wasn't really meant to be an insult or anything. As I said before, I was interested in how much of a difference there would be. Also it's not like I want to see Mario 64 grinded into dust so Undertale ralliers taking things at their own pace is fine by me. >_>
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Melee gains 93 more with its highest percentage update of the match so far. Undertale....gains 27. The Smash rally is having some effect too, eh?


It doesn't feel like the Melee rally is picking up any traction. It's been sitting in the middle of the first page of hot topics for over an hour now.


But it is, I think, generating votes.
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Mario with the 20-vote cut. This has to at least partially be the Melee rally coming into play.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
KiraKara posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
How lazy are the ralliers? Apparently very lazy.



Give us a break, it's the very very early AM for most of us, the rallies rarely pick up until the early afternoon in earnest anyhow.


The comment wasn't really meant to be an insult or anything. As I said before, I was interested in how much of a difference there would be. Also it's not like I want to see Mario 64 grinded into dust so Undertale ralliers taking things at their own pace is fine by me. >_>


You shouldnt apologise to temporary tumblr fangirls. They'll piss off back to pornblog once this contest is over.
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Maybe the Melee rally is having an effect, considering the Mario 64 cuts combined with huge Melee updates.
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Undertale down 19, Melee up 90. They are not so well correlated, see?
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even though I prefer Melee, poor FF7, getting double-crossed right here
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Mario with the 20-vote cut. This has to at least partially be the Melee rally coming into play.


Theres no melee rally lol

Melee is just substantially stronger than ffvii


Remember chrino was 60-40ing melee? Ffvii never done that. And mario 64 is a far stronger game than undertale on this site.
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Undertale will probably fall off and Mario 64 will take the lead again in the afternoon... only for Undertale to re-enter beast mode.
Team Rocket Elite posted...
KiraKara posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
How lazy are the ralliers? Apparently very lazy.



Give us a break, it's the very very early AM for most of us, the rallies rarely pick up until the early afternoon in earnest anyhow.


The comment wasn't really meant to be an insult or anything. As I said before, I was interested in how much of a difference there would be. Also it's not like I want to see Mario 64 grinded into dust so Undertale ralliers taking things at their own pace is fine by me. >_>


Ah sorry, I didn't mean my response to come off as harshly as it did either heck. I'm actually personally surprised by how well Undertale's doing in comparison to SM64 this early on, considering I though SM64 was going to be a lot stronger than this.

I almost don't want to sleep and risk missing out on something....
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Lol ff7 back to getting murdered. Undertale bloggers should have said vote ff7 so there's no chance melee can rally next round.

Hylian88, you have to pull some strings next round dude. Get this s*** going everywhere possible. We can't be content with rallying the final, we've got two chances at this and we need to try.


I can pull strings. I said I wouldn't vs CT and I probably won't vs FF7, but against Undertale...I can pull strings.

I somehow doubt it will be enough though. Even if I can get all the smashers who care to vote, a lot of players just aren't going to care about this competition(like leffen).

I won't post about it on smashboards front page, but I can post on FB/twitter several times about it, and I can potentially spend $10 on the facebook post to make it reach tons of people(probably won't do this though, I'm not THAT invested lmao) and our fb already has a good amount of reach. I can get M2K to tweet about it, and probably Mango/Armada(depending on if mango is streaming.)

But will it be enough?

:/
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Undertale/Pokemon stayed in the 450-vote-per-update range until close to 3 am. Right now we're sticking in the range of about 500 votes per update, which means today's match is losing a bit of ground relative to how much it is currently outgaining the Pokemon match.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
Maybe the Melee rally is having an effect, considering the Mario 64 cuts combined with huge Melee updates.


So if this was melee/undertale and melee has a consistent rally then it would be cutting 100+ right now im guessing.
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It won't be close to enough because Melee's rallying sucks compared to Undertale.

I want them to go all-out just so they can embarrass themselves. I doubt they can even match the Pokerallies
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red sox 777 posted...
Undertale down 19, Melee up 90. They are not so well correlated, see?


I think they are correlated, but differently.

Undertale rally spillover favors Melee.
Melee rally spillover favors Mario 64.

That makes perfect sense and explains just about everything that we've seen on the site tonight.
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I can't really see why Undertale and Melee rallies would vote for eachother. Melee is full of super-competitive fightan game dudes who care about framerates and hitboxes, and Undertale's fans are the sort who get their enjoyment out of the story and writing of the game more than anything else.
TheOneAboveAll, I'd give it another couple of updates, but it seems you were right. In the last two rounds, the strongest hour of the Undertale first wave rally was 2-3 (cut 400 against SMW, went 50/50 with RBY), and it had never won any other hours until morning, so I figured the rally should be good for at least another hour and Mario would be down by so far by then he wouldn't be able to catch up by morning. But if this hour is stalling, he can take the lead only to lose it in the daytime.
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Hylian88 posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Lol ff7 back to getting murdered. Undertale bloggers should have said vote ff7 so there's no chance melee can rally next round.

Hylian88, you have to pull some strings next round dude. Get this s*** going everywhere possible. We can't be content with rallying the final, we've got two chances at this and we need to try.


I can pull strings. I said I wouldn't vs CT and I probably won't vs FF7, but against Undertale...I can pull strings.

I somehow doubt it will be enough though. Even if I can get all the smashers who care to vote, a lot of players just aren't going to care about this competition(like leffen).

I won't post about it on smashboards front page, but I can post on FB/twitter several times about it, and I can potentially spend $10 on the facebook post to make it reach tons of people(probably won't do this though, I'm not THAT invested lmao) and our fb already has a good amount of reach. I can get M2K to tweet about it, and probably Mango/Armada(depending on if mango is streaming.)

But will it be enough?

:/


We have to try. But i agree the undertale match only.
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Smash seems to have a more active online community than Undertale. I think if they went ALL OUT (full effort and reddit, Smash Boards, pro players' twitter accounts, the works), it could be fearsome indeed. I mean, this topic seems convinced that CT was on it's way to a 60%+ win, and Melee snuffed that out without giving the impression that the fanbase was really trying that hard.

The core of the fanbase has been playing that one game for over a decade, though. They're old and probably don't give much of a s*** while Undertale's fans are super excited for their new game.
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Korota posted...
I can't really see why Undertale and Melee rallies would vote for eachother. Melee is full of super-competitive fightan game dudes who care about framerates and hitboxes, and Undertale's fans are the sort who get their enjoyment out of the story and writing of the game more than anything else.


melee above all is just a fun game
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Korota posted...
I can't really see why Undertale and Melee rallies would vote for eachother. Melee is full of super-competitive fightan game dudes who care about framerates and hitboxes, and Undertale's fans are the sort who get their enjoyment out of the story and writing of the game more than anything else.


I don't think SSBM rallies are helping Undertale especially since its opponent is Mario 64. As for why Undertale's rally favors SSBM, it doesn't seem like Tumblr like Final Fantasy that much. Also you are greatly underselling SSBM's casual appeal.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
You shouldnt apologise to temporary tumblr fangirls. They'll piss off back to pornblog once this contest is over.


are you trying to one-up Black Turtle 2013 or something
CaptainOfCrush posted...
and Melee snuffed that out without giving the impression that the fanbase was really trying that hard.


What? They clearly went all out to win that match.
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Mario 64 is already losing?
Hahahahaha oh wow
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