GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1247
Exactly! Why make it worse, you know? --- satoru iwata |
red sox 777 posted... I am definitely rooting for Melee and Undertale tonight. My desire to see Chrono Trigger look good outweighs my preferences among these 4 games. But if Mario 64 beats Undertale, SSBM can then beat Mario 64 to make Chrono Trigger look even better. Then OoT can grind SSBM into dust to get revenge for Chrono Trigger. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
I
think the difference is negligible with AC Cloud. If you were going to
anti-vote FFVII anyway, the pic doesn't matter that much. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
But OoT grinding Melee to dust makes CT look bad in the final stats! The best thing would be for FFVII to make the finals and lose respectably to OoT...! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
I
have no idea if we will even get a site banner starting with tomorrow's
matches because Allen didn't even respond to my feedback ticket
requesting a site banner. So I don't have a clear yes or no answer on
starting the site banner in the Quarterfinals. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Whether
you like Advent Children pictures or not, using one for, say, Cloud in a
character battle is definitely still a picture of Cloud from an
official source. However, a picture of Advent Children is not in any way a picture of Final Fantasy VII the game. All questions of appeal aside, I'm not sure why that would necessarily be more valid than using a picture from the Super Mario Bros. movie for Super Mario Bros. in a games contest. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
-LusterSoldier- posted... I have no idea if we will even get a site banner starting with tomorrow's matches because Allen didn't even respond to my feedback ticket requesting a site banner. So I don't have a clear yes or no answer on starting the site banner in the Quarterfinals. You should stop PMing him about stuff because quite frankly you are being really annoying to him --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes (edited 12/10/2015 2:52:43 PM)report |
I didn't even PM him. I sent in a feedback ticket. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Well,
it's one of this things you can't actively prove, but I sure wouldn't
want, say, Wind Waker Link against Undertale in the finals. Pic is a
negative in mind, neutral at best, and definitely at a real disadvantage
heading in. --- satoru iwata |
Also 55% get for SMRPG So...is this a weaker RE4 or what? If you assume there was SFF in MM/WW, it's possible Oblivion was equal to RE4 even in GOTD. If you set RE4 and Oblivion equal, that would put WW at 49.19% on Majora. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
How about points be awarded like (x^2 + x)/2 so that you get points per match of 1/3/6/10/15/21/28 depending on round? Each individual match is still worth notably more than matches in the rounds before it but it wouldn't make missing some of the last few matches necessarily a complete dealbreaker if your bracket was strong otherwise. I like it, I guess the biggest problem would be brackets could win without picking the winner, but there is more to bracket making than predicting the winner. --- BGE3: Today's Matches RE4 > SMRPG, MGS > MGS3 Points 195/240 |
I
think that's actually considered a feature rather than a problem. It
would mean you could win without picking the rallied winner by having a
stronger bracket outside of the rallied matches. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
Melee
almost doubled Wind Waker twice in 2009. It'd be really weird if they
were near-equal indirectly in Game of the Decade like WW=MM would imply. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Team Rocket Elite posted... red sox 777 posted...I am definitely rooting for Melee and Undertale tonight. My desire to see Chrono Trigger look good outweighs my preferences among these 4 games. The problem is that OOT would crush Melee, making CT look bad. The best way is for Melee to beat up FFVII badly, then lose a close one to Undertale, which then wins the contest. Then, we get a CT/OOT bonus poll. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
LTTP tripled Super Metroid in two different contests, and they're apparently not that far apart now either! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Also,
I place full blame for Melee rallying on Link! Nothing happens in the
land of Nintendo without his authorization (hint hint: Adam is Link). --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
red sox 777 posted... (hint hint: Adam is Link) I resent this accusation. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
So how much does SMRPG get on Paper Mario currently? Whatever it is, I wouldn't have thought it was that high. And the match pics are all good. Melee is the worst one and it's still good. |
Currently, SMRPG gets 63% on Paper Mario. If you assume Paper Mario = TTYD, SMRPG would get 35.69% on FFVII. That also assumes FFVII didn't overperform on FFVI, too, which it probably did. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Two upsets today surely, maybe RE4 and Super Mario RPG was a 50/50. IEther way there goes my top 10 on the leaderboard |
AxemRedRanger posted... And they'll be the only ones doing so. What was the guru nom? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Sonic 3 and Knuckles --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Allen said it was the game that got the most nominations that didn't make the bracket. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
And he also told us Mario 1 was in the 100 most nominated games. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I think OoT's best chances are if Melee somehow beats Undertale. I'm not sure I like FFVII being a sacrifice of that. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
LeonhartFour posted... I kind of understand what people say about the finals being worth as much as they are, but I don't think the answer is making every match worth the same. You should get more credit for being able to get later matches correct. The suggestion I made in the Show topic was linear, not constant. I don't even know if that's a good answer, but 2^n makes rallies too important to determining the winner imo. Honestly something like 2^(n/2) might be ideal besides the fact that it would make the scores irrational... --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
well this contest makes most of us irrational anyway so --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
Actually, Allen could do Fibbonacci skipping the first 1 (1, 2, 3, 5, 8, ...) which is approximately 1.61^n --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Thanks god for Melee vs FFVII Undertale vs SM64 is going to be the worst Undertale match It's probably going to be exactly like how it was against SMW --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
AxemRedRanger posted... How about points be awarded like (x^2 + x)/2 so that you get points per match of 1/3/6/10/15/21/28 depending on round? This one is good too --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Yeeeesssssss. My reverse jinx worked. I was wrong. SO wrong! Dang man, who woulda thought SMRPG beats PM with 63%, huh? Edit: Oh, I almost forgot. See my argument several topics backof why SMRPG had a great shot against RE4, backed up with LOTS of data. The argument was not in vain! --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." (edited 12/10/2015 4:08:39 PM)report |
AxemRedRanger posted... How about points be awarded like (x^2 + x)/2 so that you get points per match of 1/3/6/10/15/21/28 depending on round? Has been suggested many times in the past but Allen and cjayc didn't listen. --- ok. |
iGenesis posted... AxemRedRanger posted...How about points be awarded like (x^2 + x)/2 so that you get points per match of 1/3/6/10/15/21/28 depending on round? And I think 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 would be enough. --- ok. (edited 12/10/2015 4:01:18 PM)report |
Even
if you make all matches worth the same, later matches will still matter
more because scores are so much lower and picks so much more variable. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I
do think all matches the same does kinda remove some excitement from
the later parts of the contest. But having the ultimate winner be worth
over a quarter of the points in a rally situation (where a normal
bracket would have them going out in round 1) is too much; it replaces
too much skill with luck. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Nowadays,
the late rounds are so unpredictable that I like weighting them
heavily. Before, you didn't want to jeopardize your whole bracket by
choosing some late round upset, but now, there are no dominant favorites
in the late rounds anymore (except maybe Link/OOT), and you can't
really pick a cookie cutter bracket anymore. Cookie cutter brackets no
longer exist. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Iunno, it just feels weird to me that you could do a completely terrible job in the first couple rounds and win the contest. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
I like the current system myself. The later rounds give more points. --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
Dang,
today has seriously boosted my rating of this contest. To think that
SMRPG might make the semis....! MGS3's upset is cool, too. I must say, I never expected MGS1 to lose to MGS3 for one reason.... 60.34% on Earthbound vs. 69.50% on Mother 3. I thought the 60.34% was easily more impressive there. I guess EB and Borderlands suck that much. I can easily see Shadow of the Colossus being weaker than Bioshock, though. As far as Silent Hill seeming too strong...eh, I wouldn't go boasting about MGS3's strength. I can't see it beating SMRPG.... and MGS3 might not even be able to beat RE4. Here's an idea for a future contest which I think can make everyone happy: Run two contests side-by-side with the exact same bracket. One bracket involves everyone (including rallies), while the second bracket involves just people with a GameFAQs account. Of course, you would only see one match each day. But on the results screen, you would see two different results. The registered voter's vote would count in both polls. The downside there is that you'd have two contests to predict.... to remedy that, just make the bracket that involves everyone the default one to predict. Then make the second bracket optional. This kind of dual-bracket would also be kinda fun because it would allow people to try and predict rallies in one bracket; meanwhile, they don't have as much to worry about having a very stable second contest. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Maybe we could distribute points by prediction percentage? --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! Future 2015 Guru Contest runner-up. |
That would help people picking rallied stuff even more! (Or force everyone cookie if you meant higher points for a higher PP) --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword (edited 12/10/2015 4:46:50 PM)report |
Melee voters better show up again tomorrow! Also, I'm counting on the Undertale spillover favoring Melee, is this correct? --- NEW YORK METS - 2015 National League Champions |
I
think Undertale spillover favoring Melee is likely. I'm doubting
they'll have TOO strong a preference either way, but given the number of
votes almost any preference could be relevant. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
i'm pretty sure undertale people would prefer an rpg over a fighting game. |
ROUND 5 – DAY 1 – TOP OF BRACKET Match CXXI: (3) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. (2) Final Fantasy VII Previous Rounds Super Smash Bros. Melee 67.71% against Portal 60.03% against Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal 55.30% against Kingdom Hearts II 50.76% against Chrono Trigger Final Fantasy VII 84.07% against Journey 78.21% against Halo: Combat Evolved 65.29% against Super Smash Bros. for Wii U 60.05% against Final Fantasy VI Analysis This has the potential of being an interesting day. Last round Melee was able to organize a rally to turn what would have been a 60%+ win for Chrono Trigger into a win of its own. There was some debate as to which game is stronger between Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VII. I still think Chrono Trigger may have bridged the gap, but Final Fantasy VII’s performance on Final Fantasy VI was pretty good, even if you take into account of rallies helping it slightly, which is debatable at best. Of course FFVII may have overperformed due to SFF. The main question is whether the rallies will return. I am going to say it will, last round was the second time rallies appeared for Melee and it would be weird to see them not show up. The other question is how the rallies from the other match will affect this match. Any counter-rallies by Super Mario 64 would likely favour Melee, but Undertale’s rally will be a bit harder to predict. I feel it will support Final Fantasy VII by less than what GameFAQs supports it, but as long as it is still above 50% then it would be a net gain. Of course Final Fantasy VIII was crushed by Super Mario World so it is quite possible Melee will get the majority. Final Fantasy VII is more capable of organizing a rally relative to Chrono Trigger and it could win, but with the other match affecting it I would say Melee has the advantage. charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VII > Final Fantasy X charmander6000’s Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Melee wins, 52.25% - 47.75% Match CXXII: (6) Undertale vs. (3) Super Mario 64 Previous Rounds Undertale 50.95% against Mass Effect 3 55.74% against Fallout 3 54.84% against Super Mario World 51.52% against Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green Super Mario 64 80.04% against Mario Kart 8 66.23% against Final Fantasy Tactics 56.87% against The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 61.27% against The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Analysis The general idea is that if Pokemon couldn’t win then it is unlikely Super Mario 64 could win. Unlike Pokemon Mario doesn’t have centralize places to rally making it less effective. It would be interesting to see how easily Undertale would win given that its bandwagon has grown, but like many rallies they will probably lose interest once they get to a safe lead and Super Mario 64 could end up at around Super Mario World/Fallout 3 range. The only advantage Super Mario 64 has would be from the spillover from rallying in the other match. There is little doubt that voters would prefer Super Mario 64 over Undertale with the only exception being strategic voters thinking Undertale would be an easier opponent next round. charmander6000’s Bracket: Super Mario 64 > Pokemon RBYG charmander6000’s Prediction: Undertale wins, 56.35% - 43.65% --- BGE3: Today's Matches RE4 > SMRPG, MGS > MGS3 Points 195/240 (edited 12/10/2015 5:10:10 PM)report |
Haste_2 posted... Dang, today has seriously boosted my rating of this contest. To think that SMRPG might make the semis....! MGS3's upset is cool, too. "Registered users only" is an awful clubhouse mentality. RALLIES HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2002 --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
Registered
users only would unfortunately create more problems than it would
solve. Higher natural votals is really the only effective way to combat
rallies, and I don't think that's happening. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
AxemRedRanger posted... How about points be awarded like (x^2 + x)/2 so that you get points per match of 1/3/6/10/15/21/28 depending on round? I fully agree with this. You could still make the leaderbord (or win) when something like Undertale happen. |
