It still amazes me to see how well SMRPG does in North America. Nearly 60% in the U.S. and nearly 65% in Canada against Resident Evil 4.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
What do you guys think is the largest comeback Undertale could possibly pull off? 15k? 20k?


12k-15k assuming they continue to get boosted by later-round hype
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Bold (is it really bold?) Prediction: FFVII never leads against Melee.
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At this point I don't think there is a lead that a rally can't overcome
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UT swung 16k against Fallout from 6800 down. 12.5k against SMW from 3200 down. 11k against Pokemon from 7500 down.

The thing is, the farther down you start, the harder it is to cut, because you will be losing the remaining natural votes harder. I think OOT should be the favorite if it can get to a 12k lead.
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Semi finals is two matches a day too?
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GranzonEx posted...
At this point I don't think there is a lead that a rally can't overcome


It's not the rally power of Undertale that's winning it for them, it's the timing. Rallies are harder to do when someone is winning than when losing, and Undertale doesn't take the lead until evening.

If roles were reversed, it wouldn't be a question of whether OoT could beat it, just by how much.
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Nanis23 posted...
Semi finals is two matches a day too?


No, only one match per day for that round.
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Karma Hunter posted...
It's just looking like it's in the realm where a different picture could have mattered.


I agree with this.
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it's okay

just consider it a fair trade that MGS3 didn't get its picture from last round and call it even
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What was it again?
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If Melee somehow beats Undertale, I want to see the entire cast vs. Link.
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They used AC pics of Cloud and Seph in the pic last round, too.
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Advent Children? FFVII Cloud >>> AC Cloud. FFVII is doomed.
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what FFVII really needed was Bat-Cloud.

Bat-Cloud is undefeated.
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Oh my

Nintendo All-Stars versus Advent Children?

Oops
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Mario 64 pic is great, though. Really captures the feeling and nostalgia of that game better than the last round pic. But holy crap that FF7 sabotage.
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12/10/2015 2:19:03 PM#321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHL_Bk60F_4
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I don't think Advent Children Cloud is that bad. That's a pretty good pic of Cloud anyway.
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Mostly good pics all around. FFVII maybe the one exception.
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Oh I just meant I personally don't like AC Cloud much. It probably doesn't affect things too much.
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12/10/2015 2:21:19 PM#325
Hey I liked making that FF7 picture. It's simple and it works.

I had Melee stuff, but christ he loves that overused image.
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Was it Wind Waker Link?
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12/10/2015 2:22:51 PM#328
I kind of consider that a picture that should be KH-only, or I'd use it for every FF7 pic.
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It was. The only time we didn't have Wind Waker Link in 2003 was the sprite round, and even then, WW Link was in the background.
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Also, MGS3 and SMRPG are gaining now that the ASV is in full swing. Mario RPG probably finishes over 55% by the end of this.

Oblivion/SMRPG is turning out to be the most important round 1 match ever.
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Safer_777 posted...
We need sunglasses Barret.


Gotta save that trump card for Undertale if it somehow survives tomorrow.
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12/10/2015 2:29:27 PM#333
LeonhartFour posted...
Oblivion/SMRPG is turning out to be the most important round 1 match ever.


Speaking of this, what do you think of all this chatter that round 1 matches should mean as much as everything else? Like 1 point for everything? I think it's a bit silly.
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I kind of understand what people say about the finals being worth as much as they are, but I don't think the answer is making every match worth the same. You should get more credit for being able to get later matches correct.

However, maybe we could change the point scaling so points don't double every round. Maybe just go up by 1 or 2 points per round instead.
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12/10/2015 2:31:20 PM#335
I think FF7 is the favorite. Melee got 37k votes in godmode, and still almost lost to Chrono Trigger. It took some late tweets to really seal it. FF7 with all the remake hype is capable of a lot more than 37k votes.

Not saying Melee can't rally past that, but with Undertale's match there and FF fangirls from tumblr joining in on the vote, I think FF7 wins.
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It's silly, yeah. The big matches at the end should be worth more, especially with 128 entrants. The bracket contest shouldn't be decided by fodder matches in round 1.
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If Tumblr favors VII to any significant degree, it would probably win, but they preferred Mario World to FFVIII more than Gamefaqs did. It's a young userbase, Melee is one generation newer and has reason to do well.

On Gamefaqs.....37k is pretty much impossible for VII to get against Melee. It only got around 31k against Smash Wii U.
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The thing that could help FFVII is if Tumblr cares about the Remake.

No way to know though.
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So...my score is currently 192, but I picked SMRPG and MGS3 today... pure guess on the MGS match

If it weren't for my decision to take Pokemon to the finals I'd be looking damn good, although I guess since Undertale is taking Pokemon's place I still have a chance.

I picked FF7 > Melee and MGS3 > SMRPG so I'm not feeling confident about either of those...however if those do happen and OoT wins the final I could make h leaderboard for my first time ever :D
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red sox 777 posted...
On Gamefaqs.....37k is pretty much impossible for VII to get against Melee. It only got around 31k against Smash Wii U.


FFVII will get more than 37000 votes tomorrow just because we'll have increased vote totals from the Undertale match, but you're right about FFVII not being able to get 37000 votes with just our natural GameFAQs vote totals.
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LeonhartFour posted...
I don't think Advent Children Cloud is that bad. That's a pretty good pic of Cloud anyway.


I don't know that you're gaining any nostalgia, good times, or picking up any real voter with AC front and center over something from the FF7 people like. It doesn't help its cause, anyway, but knowing Ulti made explains a lot.
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Yeah, just the standard FFVII Cloud pic would probably be better or even Remake Cloud, but I don't think this is an active sabotage.
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I am definitely rooting for Melee and Undertale tonight. My desire to see Chrono Trigger look good outweighs my preferences among these 4 games.
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I can't look at the whole cast of Nintendo against AC Cloud and not think sabotage! I dunno, I think Melee is going to put some
hurt on FF7.
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This will be the first time we'll see FFVII as an underdog in a non-OoT match.

Show us what you've got, Cloud.
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How about points be awarded like (x^2 + x)/2 so that you get points per match of 1/3/6/10/15/21/28 depending on round?

Each individual match is still worth notably more than matches in the rounds before it but it wouldn't make missing some of the last few matches necessarily a complete dealbreaker if your bracket was strong otherwise.
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Eh, Melee wouldn't beat FFVII without a rally anyway, regardless of the pics. If the rally is less effective than last round, FFVII can still win.
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Would be funny if it doesn't even need a rally to win
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I mean there is not a bigger anti-vote magnet for FF Always Wins than Cloud from that one really bad movie! Think it's way better if you get a cast FF7 shot in there with old PS1 art.
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FFVII being FFVII is a big enough of an anti-vote magnet.
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