12/9/2015 7:18:14 PM#301
Team Rocket Elite posted...
If I had to pick right now, I'd take FF8 over FF4, but in a year or two that might not go so well for FF8 anymore.


there goes (future) bracket

ZFS posted...
I mean, what if LTTP goes and puts over 40% on Ocarina -- how do these three games add up?


It just means OoT has fallen back to the field as much as LTTP has. People have always suggested LTTP would resist SFF if it faced OoT directly, but we'll see.

I mean, just based on FFIX, LTTP should come close to 40% on OoT indirectly unless we're really believing in an FFIX boost...!
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It strengthens them, if anything. By the end of it, people may not even need to be rallied, because they will know when the next match is.
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Deus Ex projected FFIV to be around Kingdom Hearts. That's not too far from FFIX!

Though if you think FO3's quarter is overrated, that's a bit inflated. (That also makes LttP's bad show here less surprising!)
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12/9/2015 7:22:17 PM#304
Deus Ex also projected FFIV to be weaker than FFT!

(it would also project MGS1 to get 59% on LTTP but that's neither here nor there)
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I think people are underestimating the amount spillover is impacting this match. The trends are incredible here; LTTP literally did 10% better in the morning than the Power Hour. I challenge anyone to find another match with such a big gap between the power hour and 8-9 am, since the site switched to starting at midnight Eastern, excluding rallies (Draven, Undertale, that one match where Bidoof held even with Vincent for an hour).

The extreme swing of the trends, and their close correlation with spillover votes, suggest LTTP at 60% or higher without spillover.
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12/9/2015 7:25:48 PM#306
So I just realized SMRPG did almost exactly as well on Oblivion as RE4 did on MGS2 and almost exactly as well on CC as RE4 would be projected to do on RE1.

So Oblivion vs. MGS2: Who ya got?

Chrono Cross vs. Resident Evil 1: Who ya got?

go SMRPG
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12/9/2015 7:30:17 PM#307
Go SMRPG! Reach the semifinals and teach those non-Square, non-Nintendo games that there is nowhere to hide!
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can't wait for the SMRPG > Undertale finals
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if SMRPG has Nintendo AND Square, and OoT has only Nintendo, how could OoT possibly win
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Well, they could announce a Zelda/Monkey Island crossover game so that all those Guybrush freaks will start stuffing votes for OoT!
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So, I am too tired to read through 300+ posts. Can someone please tell me if I missed anything besides Majora's Mask resisting SFF better than most people expected?

Also, has anyone figured out how to make FFVII win the contest yet? Besides cheat?
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There's pretty much no way to make FFVII win. Short of opening a time portal to 2003.
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red sox 777 posted...
There's pretty much no way to make FFVII win. Short of opening a time portal to 2003.


Okay. Has anyone started working on this "time portal" yet? I am totally willing to help.
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Janus5k posted...
can't wait for the SMRPG > Undertale finals


Yes, please. It would be symbolic of Nintendo and Square combining their powers to gain the crown they could not on its own.

Never mind that they are teaming up against some child with a stick and a bandage.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
Well, they could announce a Zelda/Monkey Island crossover game so that all those Guybrush freaks will start stuffing votes for OoT!


I was there for the Guybrush stuffing match and I still need explaining on what the hell happened there
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12/9/2015 7:39:42 PM#316
cyko posted...
So, I am too tired to read through 300+ posts. Can someone please tell me if I missed anything besides Majora's Mask resisting SFF better than most people expected?

Also, has anyone figured out how to make FFVII win the contest yet? Besides cheat?


I believe buying Facebook ads is still considered the leading method for bringing victory to FF7.
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Even if it did work....are people going to buy ads for FFVII against OOT in the final too? If FFVII beats Undertale through buying votes, the hate is going to reach levels never hit before.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
cyko posted...
So, I am too tired to read through 300+ posts. Can someone please tell me if I missed anything besides Majora's Mask resisting SFF better than most people expected?

Also, has anyone figured out how to make FFVII win the contest yet? Besides cheat?


I believe buying Facebook ads is still considered the leading method for bringing victory to FF7.


Sounds good to me. Let's make it happen!!
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Scarlettail posted...
http://i.imgur.com/bre33Dt.gif

If only it were so nice.


Pokemon subreddit wasn't completely salty about it like you guys are. Get over yourselves.
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ROUND 4 – DAY 4 – ALL OF DIVISION 7 & 8

Match CXIX: (9) Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars vs. (2) Resident Evil 4

Previous Rounds

Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
54.43% against The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
57.20% against Grand Theft Auto V
60.74% against Chrono Cross

Resident Evil 4
58.87% against Paper Mario
58.11% against Fallout: New Vegas
54.44% against Metal Gear Solid 2

Analysis

Some people who are excited about the upset are placing this on Resident Evil 4’s weakness, but I think you should be looking at this as Super Mario RPG’s strength. Resident Evil 4 has looked like its old self based on its performances against Paper Mario and Metal Gear Solid 2.

Super Mario RPG breaking 60% last round was amazing and it essentially confirmed that Oblivion did not drop since 2010 and remained constant. In fact the 2010 x-stats eerily predicted that match almost to the exact tenth of a percent.

This match comes down to whether or not you believe Resident Evil 4 has completely remained its old self. Super Mario RPG’s predicted number is just under what Resident Evil 4 got in 2010 so it doesn’t have much room to work with. Paper Mario seems to predict Resident Evil 4 has remained at that level while it is hard to use Metal Gear Solid 2 as an exact prediction until oddly enough the next match begins. We also have to take into account the added vote pool and their preference. Would they prefer SMRPG because it has Mario in the title? Resident Evil 4 is a well-known classic in its own right too.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Resident Evil 4 > Super Mario RPG

charmander6000’s Prediction: Resident Evil 4 wins, 52.06% - 47.94%



Match CXX: (1) Metal Gear Solid vs. (3) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

Previous Rounds

Metal Gear Solid
79.07% against Splatoon
60.34% against Earthbound
53.56% against Shadow of the Colossus

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
69.50% against Mother 3
52.03% against BioShock
60.64% against Mass Effect 2

Analysis

My pre-contest expectation for this match was that Metal Gear Solid would win in a close, but unopposed manner, but now I think Metal Gear Solid 3 has a real chance. MGS3’s win over Mass Effect 2 wasn’t a surprise, but its percent was a bit shocking. However, the main reason of why I think the match will be close was Metal Gear Solid’s performance against Shadow of the Colossus.

A bandwagon Shadow of the Colossus went about even with Metal Gear Solid 3 back in 2010, but by making Shadow of the Colossus equal to Metal Gear Solid 2 and keeping the previous results ratio between Resident Evil 4 and Metal Gear Solid 3 we see that MGS3 ends up with a higher percent than what Metal Gear Solid got.

The main reason I am sticking with Metal Gear Solid is because I feel that the fanbase within will choose the first game over the third. Regardless I don’t see SFF being a large factor so I expect this to be a close match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Metal Gear Solid > Metal Gear Solid 3

charmander6000’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid wins, 51.35% - 48.65%
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Points 179/224
Forreal though, if Mario RPG beats RE4 and leaves literally two games left in the bracket that aren't Square/Nintendo, I might seriously consider getting a little bit miffed.
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red sox 777 posted...
that one match where Bidoof held even with Vincent for an hour


This is an incredible sentence
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I can literally not imagine a scenario in which buying voters doesn't backfire

(Pretty sure you guys are all joking, but I don't know if SephyG was)
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CC pegged SMRPG as only a little weaker that Majora's Mask.

RE4...is not that close
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red sox 777 posted...
Even if it did work....are people going to buy ads for FFVII against OOT in the final too? If FFVII beats Undertale through buying votes, the hate is going to reach levels never hit before.


It would be better to buy ads for OoT instead of FFVII since we can't be sure that FFVII will even be able to get past Melee next round between the Undertale rally possibly favoring Melee, plus rallies for both Melee and Mario 64.
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12/9/2015 7:50:33 PM#328
pjbasis posted...
CC pegged SMRPG as only a little weaker that Majora's Mask.

RE4...is not that close


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4161-northwest-division-round-2-zelda-majoras-mask-vs-chrono
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6159-best-game-ever-day-31-round-3-super-mario-rpg-vs-chrono

It did?
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ZFS posted...
red sox 777 posted...
that one match where Bidoof held even with Vincent for an hour


This is an incredible sentence


Until you think about what would happen if you reran that match now. Vincent would be so far behind, and the votals so low, that he'd spend all night catching up. Then when he's finally taken the lead, some killshot rally will show up because it is funny for FF to lose to Pokemon for the umpteenth time.

Thank you, Undertale.
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WrEcK6 posted...
Scarlettail posted...
http://i.imgur.com/bre33Dt.gif

If only it were so nice.


Pokemon subreddit wasn't completely salty about it like you guys are. Get over yourselves.


I'm pretty happy with the result, don't worry.
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Chrono Cross and Oblivion placed SMRPG just below 2010 RE4
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > BK, LoZ: LttP > LoZ: MM
Points 179/224
Scarlettail posted...
WrEcK6 posted...
Scarlettail posted...
http://i.imgur.com/bre33Dt.gif

If only it were so nice.


Pokemon subreddit wasn't completely salty about it like you guys are. Get over yourselves.


I'm pretty happy with the result, don't worry.


Yeah, I saw a little confraternization thread on Pokemon's subreddit. Everybody seemed pretty chill about it. Also lots of "I didn't vote for pokemon anyway because I don't care for gen one"
12/9/2015 8:03:39 PM#334
charmander6000 posted...
Chrono Cross and Oblivion placed SMRPG just below 2010 RE4


until SFF'd Wind Waker appeared

also the Chrono boost affected CC a little as well BOOK IT
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isn't SMRPG overperforming on CC a possibility due to the Square connection
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12/9/2015 8:08:04 PM#336
Karma Hunter posted...
isn't SMRPG overperforming on CC a possibility due to the Square connection


It's possible that Oblivion fell and CC got SFF'd, but when you have two results that line up with GotD stats, there's a good chance the results are accurate.
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12/9/2015 8:08:52 PM#337
you know what else is possible

Nintendo always wins a close match
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12/9/2015 8:09:12 PM#338
but there's also Square always loses a close match to consider as well

what a paradox
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LeonhartFour posted...
you know what else is possible

Nintendo always wins a close match


RIP Metroid Prime
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12/9/2015 8:11:23 PM#340
Retro Studios... retro... wait, Mario RPG is a retro game, and Retro always loses close matches!

Case closed
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Man, realizing my all-time favorite game (and another pretty great game in RE4, though it's not as good as SMRPG) is also what I need to keep my bracket alive another day. I don't think I could handle the heartbreak as well as red sox took CT/Melee lol
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One last day of calm before the storm.
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LeonhartFour posted...
but there's also Square always loses a close match to consider as well

what a paradox


SMRPG will just never have a close match
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Handle the heartbreak? The only thing that got me through the next day was watching Undertale make its comeback. I was really despondent about 35 minutes into the ASV when that rally looked like it wasn't materializing.
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How much of a lead does SMRPG need to weather the European vote?
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BGE3: Today's Matches RE4 > SMRPG, MGS > MGS3
Points 195/240
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5 minutes till I find out if my bracket is completely f***ed
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12/9/2015 8:56:23 PM#348
Well, the worst it did was dropping from 61% to 54% from the freeze against Oblivion, so mid-to-high 50s should be good.
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I guess SMRPG should be safe as long as it's at 59% or higher at the freeze.
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I fully expect SMRPG to be at 60% at the freeze.
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