GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1246
My
thing about this pic factor business as it relates to MGS is that
seemingly EVERY time MGS has a picture we're talking about how bad it
is. At this point, it's a natural part of MGS. Like, it's pretty bad
that MGS got the same picture again, but the picture itself isn't bad at
all. You'd almost have to sabotage MGS3 for it not to have a more
powerful picture here. --- satoru iwata |
MGS could have an awesome picture if Allen picked one damnit --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
ZFS posted... My thing about this pic factor business as it relates to MGS is that seemingly EVERY time MGS has a picture we're talking about how bad it is. At this point, it's a natural part of MGS. Like, it's pretty bad that MGS got the same picture again, but the picture itself isn't bad at all. You'd almost have to sabotage MGS3 for it not to have a more powerful picture here. Don't be willfully dense. MGS's pictures in previous contests were fine. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-53-4.jpg http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-41.jpg http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bge09/bge09-18.jpg http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/spc2k4/spr04b53.jpg All it's had this contest is a gray blob for two rounds and a middling title screen shot for its other two rounds. --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 (edited 12/9/2015 5:19:00 PM)report |
It's
absolutely a common theme with MGS -- it comes up way more often than
it should, all things considered. And this isn't even a bad picture, not
even close, it's just unfortunately reused again from the previous
round. But the actual picture? It's about as solid and recognizable a
pic you could get from MGS1. It's going up against MGS3 art, but again, I
don't think there's any picture that's going to beat Big Boss front and
center. He carries a lot of weight that Snake doesn't. It's the
eyepatch.Just not seeing any kind of issue here. If MGS3 wins in a nail
biter, I'd toss it up to pic factor, but if it wins by a few thousand or
so, nah, not even close. --- satoru iwata |
I have a question about the ALttP/MM match: Is there any SFF in this at all, and if so, how is such SFF supposed to be interpreted? --- Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective? (edited 12/9/2015 5:25:28 PM)report |
ZFS posted... It's absolutely a common theme with MGS -- it comes up way more often than it should, all things considered. And this isn't even a bad picture, not even close, it's just unfortunately reused again from the previous round. But the actual picture? It's about as solid and recognizable a pic you could get from MGS1. It's going up against MGS3 art, but again, I don't think there's any picture that's going to beat Big Boss front and center. He carries a lot of weight that Snake doesn't. It's the eyepatch.Just not seeing any kind of issue here. If MGS3 wins in a nail biter, I'd toss it up to pic factor, but if it wins by a few thousand or so, nah, not even close. Suggested MGS Pic: http://i.imgur.com/riNhbTc.jpg --- "I guess I have plenty of ammo right now, but I'd feel better with more." ~rockyoumonkeys |
Advokaiser posted... I have a question about the ALttP/MM match: This might be another match that can be used towards building a case for the existence of rSFF. There's no reason A Link to the Past shouldn't be SFFing Majora into the ground. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
HyperSonicClone posted...
If this is what we consider better I don't even know --- satoru iwata |
ZFS posted... HyperSonicClone posted... You can't tell me that WON'T draw people's attention. < Doesn't understand Pic Advantage. --- "I guess I have plenty of ammo right now, but I'd feel better with more." ~rockyoumonkeys |
Props on the clear title, at least! But a zoomed in PS1 Meryl Silverburgh -- or any Meryl, for that matter! -- is pretty much instant pic disadvantage from where I'm sitting! --- satoru iwata |
That's not
as recognizable of a picture as you'll get for MGS1. It even took me a
bit to recognize it as the title screen. You know what's a more
recognizable picture for MGS1? Basically every picture it's had in the previous contests. This hasn't been an issue for MGS1 until this contest; it used
to be an issue with Snake but it never really needed to be even
pre-Brawl and the argument that it did has always been pretty meritless. For someone arguing that a picture of Link blowing on a goddamn ocarina was an extreme instance of pic factor, I'm not finding the stance remotely credible. --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 |
creativename posted... Team Rocket Elite posted...OoT isn't winning. Undertale is pretty much locked in as the contest winner right now. Yeah. I mean, I'd absolutely take even odds for Undertale to win the contest now, but it wouldn't shock me if something else did. |
Team Rocket Elite posted... OoT isn't winning. Undertale is pretty much locked in as the contest winner right now. I'd call them a slight favorite, only because it keeps upping its game in each round. But numbers wise OoT still has the advantage. --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
Aw yeah, go MGS3. --- NEW YORK METS - 2015 National League Champions |
creativename posted... Those crazy updates vs. RBY made me think it could beat OoT, but OoT will have advantages over RBY more than just base power. Undertale's natural GameFAQs strength will be at its highest during the final against OoT, but OoT's natural strength is a pretty big step up from RBY. OoT would put up at least 60% or more on RBY. The final match will have the yellow site banner, which will be far more effective than the blue site banner at drawing in votes. During the bracket entry phase, the blue site banner and yellow site banner were both used and the yellow one was far more effective in boosting account sign-ups. I couldn't even detect any statistically significant increase in account sign-ups with the blue site banner in place. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! (edited 12/9/2015 6:05:12 PM)report |
The
pic situation could have been so much worse for MGS. Snake Eater got a
pretty ugly pic. If BOTH games had gotten the same pics from last round,
then it might have been a much bigger deal cuz MGS3 looked beautiful
last round --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
Yeah,
Undertale has done a little better each round at getting the natural
Gamefaqs vote, even as it has faced stronger opponents. OOT is a big
step up, but with 3 more rounds of powering up I don't know if it can
even outdo RBY on natural Gamefaqs votes. OOT's hopes lie in blowing the votals sky high. Make this the Internet vs Tumblr, and OOT wins. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
MechanicalWall posted... Advokaiser posted...I have a question about the ALttP/MM match: KamikazePotato has a point though -- the polls Majora's Mask has been in the past don't favor it because the 3D Zeldas are actually LFFing it. --- Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective? |
Bonus Poll: Fierce Deity Link vs. The picture Snake got against Frog --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
red sox 777 posted...
I doubt it becomes the internet vs tumblr because the villain here is GameFaqs thanks to all the s***posters and some other people. |
-LusterSoldier- posted... creativename posted...Those crazy updates vs. RBY made me think it could beat OoT, but OoT will have advantages over RBY more than just base power. Where are you getting at least 60% on RBY from? I have OoT as being stronger but not that much stronger than RBY. If RBY is as strong as Mario 64, that projects Kingdom Hearts to be pretty close to Twilight Princess. I don't think this gap has closed just yet: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4184-southeast-division-final-zelda-twilight-princess-vs-kingdom As for the site banner, you are putting a lot of faith in something that had seemingly no effect last time. I realize it's a bit different now but I'll believe a large shift when I see it. If anything, I would say the shift to a single match might be the votal boost to look for. RBY wasn't quite able to push Undertale to its limit so even the current Undertale is stronger than it looked in that match. If you think the match is kinda borderline now, it just gets worse as Undertale builds up steam round after round. An OoT that can beat R4 Undertale isn't necessarily an OoT that can beat R7 Undertale. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/3w3mv5/in_light_of_gamefaqs_plan/ ...yep... --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Where are you getting at least 60% on RBY from? I have OoT as being stronger but not that much stronger than RBY. If RBY is as strong as Mario 64, that projects Kingdom Hearts to be pretty close to Twilight Princess. I don't think this gap has closed just yet: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4184-southeast-division-final-zelda-twilight-princess-vs-kingdom In the 4-ways, OoT put up at least 62% on RBY in both matches where OoT faced RBY, so I assumed about 60% or more is what OoT should be expected to put on RBY in a 1v1 match. Although that could be a little bit lower than expected with OoT looking weaker in this contest. Last contest, the site banner did not appear to have any effect. We only got to see the site banner on 4 matches, 2 of which featured Draven and were unreliable for getting a read on the impact of the site banner. The 2 non-Draven matches both featured the blue site banner and those did not seem to have higher vote totals than the other 24 hour matches without the site banner. There is probably a very good reason why the site banner did not have any effect during the last contest. My guess is that a large majority of the traffic to GameFAQs that comes from Google search results leads to people landing directly on an FAQ page. A large majority of the FAQs on the site are plain-text FAQs. Back in 2013, all plain-text FAQs had a site header that made it impossible to display the site banner, so anyone who arrived on a plain-text FAQ from Google did not see the site banner. This wasn't an issue for Formatted (HTML) FAQs, which had the normal site header and the site banner was visible on any Formatted FAQs. At some point after that contest ended, Allen made changes to the plain-text FAQ header so it has the exact same site header that you see across the entire site. This now means that site banner will show up on plain-text FAQ pages. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! (edited 12/9/2015 6:55:35 PM)report |
That reddit thread is pretty funny. And kind of sad. Kind of like the Draven Reddit threads talking about past contests were. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. (edited 12/9/2015 6:46:06 PM)report |
Oh this is the main (non meme) topic for that I guess: https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/3w38vh/they_truly_are_desparate/ Guess it was that Darkest Link dude. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
LOL this is amazing. I'm so glad I posted that. s*** is just unbearably funny at this point. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Ughhhhh I can't believe SephyG took your bait --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
LordoftheMorons posted... Ughhhhh I can't believe SephyG took your bait Just another reason for Melee to knock out FFVII --- http://i.imgur.com/yrqRzHJ.gif |
is it wrong that I'm most irked by the fact that they misspelled the word 'desperate' --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 |
A
result being different than what we expected shouldn't be the basis for
claiming rSFF! We should think through reasons why the result is off! Jumping straight to rSFF because it doesn't make sense is lazy thinking. LTTP was projected at 55% and it's going to finish at 52.5%. That's really not that bad. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
I
wonder if Gamefaqs implemented a system where you could buy votes for
direct payments, how it would go. Something like, first vote is free.
After that, each vote costs 1 cent more than the last vote. So, 100
votes would cost you $49.50. 1000 votes would cost a user $4995. The
sliding price scale would ensure that a single user cannot buy the
contest (at least without greatly enriching Gamefaqs in the process). --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. (edited 12/9/2015 7:02:46 PM)report |
stumbled upon this poll while looking up results for Mario RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4425-what-is-your-all-time-favorite-nintendo-game-on-the-snes Not sure what to think of it. It's multiway so the results are never going to be as accurate as 1v1, but i think it's impressive that Mario RPG can beat Super Metroid here despite it being one of four Mario games in the poll. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Probably, everyone would throw a fit. But if not, Gamefaqs could make a lot of money. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Loooooooooots
of Nintendo stuff could get the upper hand on Super Metroid back then.
SM has clearly shown it's an entirely different league than SMRPG this
year, anyway. --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 |
LeonhartFour posted... Jumping straight to rSFF because it doesn't make sense is lazy thinking. LTTP was projected at 55% and it's going to finish at 52.5%. That's really not that bad. Those projections didn't take SFF into account in the first place, though, and that was supposed to be an inevitable factor. So either Majora and Link to the Past really do have distinct fanbases (which honestly wouldn't surprise me, actually), or something weird is going on. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses (edited 12/9/2015 7:02:27 PM)report |
I'd
wager the spillover caused the disparity. LTTP has averaged 55%~ on MM
most of the daylight hours. Nothing is so horribly off about the
projections that we need to come up with a factor to explain it. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
This LttP/MM match is a result that I would have said was impossible - just 100%, flat-out, impossible
- regardless of the circumstances until today, and I'm factoring in the
fact that it has a pic advantage, the spillover, whatever other
dynamics you wanna bring up. It's actually shaken my confidence on
MGS/MGS3 to my core because, apparently, impossible results aren't so
impossible anymore! --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 |
Imagine, RE4 could win tomorrow and LttP would be the only SNES game in the quarter finals. So much for the year of SNES then. --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
I
think the difference between the expectation of 55% and the real result
could easily be attributed to spillover and MM having an amazing pic.
The lack of SFF is a little surprising, but that could be due in part to
the generational gap. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
Well,
I thought the chances of MM beating LTTP pre-contest were low, but by
the time the match came around, the performances seemed to indicate LTTP
wasn't going to blow it away. 65% on FFIV is not a great performance. Because it was LTTP, it almost got people thinking FFIV was a strong game on par with FFVIII, FFIX, and FFX! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
red sox 777 posted... I wonder if Gamefaqs implemented a system where you could buy votes for direct payments, how it would go. Something like, first vote is free. After that, each vote costs 1 cent more than the last vote. So, 100 votes would cost you $49.50. 1000 votes would cost a user $4995. The sliding price scale would ensure that a single user cannot buy the contest (at least without greatly enriching Gamefaqs in the process). Because there's nothing GameFAQs users love more than microtransactions: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5067-what-is-the-worst-thing-about-video-gaming-right-now --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
We
honestly haven't seen a lot of hardcore SFF in this contest, if any.
There might have been some in FFVI/FFVII, but not much, I'd wager. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Undertale will have 3 matches in 5 days. Could the 3th rally be less effective because of the fatigue? |
foxhead84 posted... Undertale will have 3 matches in 5 days. Could the 3th rally be less effective because of the fatigue? No, it's never stopped rallies before. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... Well, I thought the chances of MM beating LTTP pre-contest were low, but by the time the match came around, the performances seemed to indicate LTTP wasn't going to blow it away. If I had to pick right now, I'd take FF8 over FF4, but in a year or two that might not go so well for FF8 anymore. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
At least Undertale is in Div 2 so it doesn't get to literally roll its semifinal rally into the finals --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
LeonhartFour posted...
This is the truth, even for myself! It's the kind of performance that's clearly not impressive at all, but it's easy to brush it off as LTTP and maybe some SNES boost. MM kinda did look better until Super Metroid, but at that point, all bets were off on anything making any sense here. I mean, what if LTTP goes and puts over 40% on Ocarina -- how do these three games add up? --- satoru iwata |
LttP
getting 40% on OoT would project it to roughly 60/40 SotN... which
doesn't speak volumes of strength to me, but there's a lot of potential
for SFF there obviously which would make LttP look better. --- Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3 |
