The Mana Sword posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
LttP no longer a Top Five game confirmed

...eh I can see it


get out


hey didn't mean to come back to this but have you noticed a certain omission in all of the Top Five lists people are making
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Goddamn Chrono Trigger
yes I notice them omitting mass effect 3 what's up with that
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The Mana Sword posted...
where's mass effect 3


Clearly a juggernaut that we were lucky Undertale saved us from.
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12/9/2015 1:16:37 PM#204
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
You know what's funny though is despite the calls for stats analysis having been ruined, we have a lot of b8ers on the leaderboard including the guru cookie. I think the effects of undertale have been a little overstated on placement for prizes.


Eh, I said this from the beginning. Even when Draven and L-Block won, there were still people who didn't have them winning who were in contention for prizes (I nearly won a prize the year L-Block won, for instance). The odds of you winning first place are practically zero now if you wanted that big grand prize, but still, you still have a chance to win something.
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LeonhartFour posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
You know what's funny though is despite the calls for stats analysis having been ruined, we have a lot of b8ers on the leaderboard including the guru cookie. I think the effects of undertale have been a little overstated on placement for prizes.


Eh, I said this from the beginning. Even when Draven and L-Block won, there were still people who didn't have them winning who were in contention for prizes (I nearly won a prize the year L-Block won, for instance). The odds of you winning first place are practically zero now if you wanted that big grand prize, but still, you still have a chance to win something.


I beLIEve in the lameness of the Smash fanbase
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
You know what's funny though is despite the calls for stats analysis having been ruined, we have a lot of b8ers on the leaderboard including the guru cookie. I think the effects of undertale have been a little overstated on placement for prizes. Unless ten people picked undertale to win it all and are sitting 90 points back just waiting to shoot up despite the rest of their bracket being s***.


2013 was won by Draven-pickers, wasn't it?
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On rallies, my stance is pretty simple - it's rallies that flip the result that are bad.

A small rally is bad too, if it flips the result.

A counter-rally that resets to the original result is fine. Using another game's small rally that doesn't flip the result, to then justify a larger rally, is *not* alright.

I mean I don't like rallies that shift the percentage a lot either, but they're not so bad if they don't change the outcome.
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Even disregarding all rallies (which, based on the spillover, LttP might be shockingly bad at), Link to the Past didn't look commandingly strong this contest. Failing to double FFIV isn't good when you're trying to make the case for being Nintendo's clear #2.

Super Mario 64 almost took the game down in 2009 and I didn't see anything to make me doubt that it could at least give LttP another good run in a fair 1-on-1. People were calling for Mario 64's head against Twilight Princess thanks to that picture, Zelda > Mario hierarchy, and whatever else; instead it simply brushed the game aside.
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Mario 64 could probably have won in 2K9 with a good enough pic advantage. That result was within even modest pic advantage range IMO.

How much SFF did LttP suffer against OoT if you use set LttP at 54% on MM?

LeonhartFour posted...
https://twitter.com/FwugRadiation/status/673916315313262593

I assume the 7% is GameFAQs Contests.

What is this regarding? I don't see anything about 7% on that page.
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Zelda in general didn't look too dominating this year. LTTP had FF4, MM had Super Metroid, Ocarina had FF9, TP put up no fight against Mario 64. WW might have come out the most impressive due to how it did against FF6, but yeah.
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creativename posted...
Mario 64 could probably have won in 2K9 with a good enough pic advantage. That result was within even modest pic advantage range IMO.

How much SFF did LttP suffer against OoT if you use set LttP at 54% on MM?

LeonhartFour posted...
https://twitter.com/FwugRadiation/status/673916315313262593

I assume the 7% is GameFAQs Contests.

What is this regarding? I don't see anything about 7% on that page.


The poll result.
We are going to pass the final total for OOT/FFIX within the next 2 updates. The spillover for this match is massive, make no mistake. The extra votes are probably going to wind up around 65% of the extra votes in the CT/SSBM match, which featured SSBM and CT giving it their all. Based on normal trends, the Melee rallying swung around 14% in that match, with CT rallying getting 1% back.

Majora's hourly percentages have moved with a strong correlation to estimated spillover the whole day. We could still see LTTP at 60% with no spillover here, the extra votes are quite enough for that. In the morning, when LTTP was pulling in 57%, a sixth of the votes were still spillover.

Also, it may be that some of the spillover is Gamefaqs users being more excited about the contest. That's fine, but it's still effectively spillover, because it was directly generated by the last two days' results.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
creativename posted...
Mario 64 could probably have won in 2K9 with a good enough pic advantage. That result was within even modest pic advantage range IMO.

How much SFF did LttP suffer against OoT if you use set LttP at 54% on MM?

LeonhartFour posted...
https://twitter.com/FwugRadiation/status/673916315313262593

I assume the 7% is GameFAQs Contests.

What is this regarding? I don't see anything about 7% on that page.


The poll result.

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see any link there to a poll result?

I do see someone mentioning 30% saw it from Let's Play. Does it specify if they eventually played the game, or just watched a video?

And whoever it was complaining that kids don't play games anymore they watch them, well looks like he was partially right!
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I see nothing wrong with watching games instead of playing them. Of course, I don't really play games anymore. *runs from the mob of angry gamers with pitchforks*
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I really wonder what 2002 would have been like without that crazy increase in votals in the last week of that contest. It changes everything when you add 35% to the voter pool.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
http://i.imgur.com/PyVUvas.png

Thanks!

40%, wow. Wish we knew how many played it later.
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12/9/2015 3:33:47 PM#219
Does Tumblr like Resident Evil 4 or Metal Gear Solid 1/3 more? It seems like the spillover from Undertale vs Mario 64 will have an effect on SMRPG/RE4 vs MGS1/3. Considering how they treat SMW and aLttP, I assume SMRPG will be on the losing end among the four games?
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Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest!
Was there only 1 submission for MGS?
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Points 179/224
charmander6000 posted...
Was there only 1 submission for MGS?


there

was

not
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Goddamn Chrono Trigger
That's pretty bad, if the picture was awesome I may have understood, but it isn't.
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > BK, LoZ: LttP > LoZ: MM
Points 179/224
so this means incoming Bioshock > MGS yes
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Karma Hunter posted...
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/100.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/111.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/113.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/121.jpg

oh my god are you kidding me

God damnit
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I hope Undertale breaks 80% on Ocarina
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Goddamn Chrono Trigger
WTF is this seriously, was there no other MGS pic that could be used?
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/user.php?=2426382
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Pretty lame about reusing pics, but I like MGS1's pic and think MGS3's pic is considerably worse than last round's.
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12/9/2015 4:02:59 PM#228
creativename posted...
Mario 64 could probably have won in 2K9 with a good enough pic advantage. That result was within even modest pic advantage range IMO.

How much SFF did LttP suffer against OoT if you use set LttP at 54% on MM?

LeonhartFour posted...
https://twitter.com/FwugRadiation/status/673916315313262593

I assume the 7% is GameFAQs Contests.

What is this regarding? I don't see anything about 7% on that page.


It says 7% of the people found out about Undertale other than by playing it or an LP. I was jokingly suggesting that 7% represents the people who discovered the game because of the contest.
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MGS3 > MGS1 is gonna happen. Too bad my bracket is decimated
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12/9/2015 4:04:21 PM#230
Karma Hunter posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Was there only 1 submission for MGS?


there

was

not


http://i.imgur.com/Bgb9cmZ.png

WHERE IS JUSTICE
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rrrgh
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Goddamn Metal Gear Solid 3
I don't think it's that bad >_>

Problem is that I think Tumblr voters might be more pic sensitive than us.

Especially since they'd have NO awareness of which games are even in the bracket. They might be confused sometimes without text subtitles.

Team Rocket Elite posted...
Does Tumblr like Resident Evil 4 or Metal Gear Solid 1/3 more? It seems like the spillover from Undertale vs Mario 64 will have an effect on SMRPG/RE4 vs MGS1/3. Considering how they treat SMW and aLttP, I assume SMRPG will be on the losing end among the four games?

Yes I think they'd favor RE4.

And even minor spillover can flip results if the magnitude is great enough.

I think both these matches will be close. I see SMRPG barely eeking by if it wins, so just mild RE4 favoritism can alter this.
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12/9/2015 4:05:56 PM#233
Also, MGS3's pic isn't as good as last round, yeah. It's too "busy." Nothing in particular really jumps out at you like two big pics of Big Boss and The Boss did.
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It's not as good, but I still think it's better
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12/9/2015 4:08:46 PM#235
Oh, it's better than MGS1's pic, but not by as big of a margin as it would have been if they'd reused MGS3's last round pic, too.
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I really just don't want Ocarina of Time to win overall this year. Again.

It might've been great at the time but now, ugh.
12/9/2015 4:16:29 PM#237
OoT isn't winning. Undertale is pretty much locked in as the contest winner right now.
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No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585.
Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest!
I would probably be swayed by the match pic here were I not already being swayed by my bracket
I'm not really sure which of MGS1 and MGS3 I like more. I suspect it's 3, but man. Both games are so good.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
OoT isn't winning. Undertale is pretty much locked in as the contest winner right now.

Things are much more uncertain than that.

Those crazy updates vs. RBY made me think it could beat OoT, but OoT will have advantages over RBY more than just base power.

The base power difference itself will account for a few thousand votes, and even moreso with increased finals votals. Plus the site banner.

And the expected Pokemon rallying may or may not have helped, it wasn't clear. Zelda may or may not rally better.
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Karma Hunter posted...
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/100.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/111.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/113.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r4/121.jpg

oh my god are you kidding me


Welp there goes bracket and prizes

Thank God they didn't reuse both pics though
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It was only 3600 votes. Almost 6000 less than the margin against SMW.

I'm starting to get a little torn by this.....Link actually stopping a rally would be amazing, but I also really want to see CT in a bonus poll. Don't want to see something like Link vs. Santa Claus this time.
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Okay so guys.. without pic factor... what do you think about tomorrow's match?

Has MGS ever been in fourways or SFF matches with other MGS games? I cant recall.

I think MGS has like a 55-45 advantage indirectly, but I was talking to my buddy today who is a huge MGS fan and he says it's definitely possible rSFF could happen within the fandom. He likened MGS3 to Star Wars ESB. where the original was far more popular and a phenomenon, but the sequel got the "masterpiece" devotion from the fanbase (we've seen that on Board8 too). He personally prefers MGS1 though.
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Wow. Go MGS3! My bracket still has hope!
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MGS3 > MGS1 > MGS2 > MGS4 > MGSV

Believe.
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So, if MGS survives, I'm totally submitting something for it. I'm not big on the series, but it deserves better than recycled pics.
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That Mario RPG picture is awesome, best of the bunch. The seven stars is a nice touch!
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Okay so guys.. without pic factor... what do you think about tomorrow's match?

Has MGS ever been in fourways or SFF matches with other MGS games? I cant recall.

I think MGS has like a 55-45 advantage indirectly, but I was talking to my buddy today who is a huge MGS fan and he says it's definitely possible rSFF could happen within the fandom. He likened MGS3 to Star Wars ESB. where the original was far more popular and a phenomenon, but the sequel got the "masterpiece" devotion from the fanbase (we've seen that on Board8 too). He personally prefers MGS1 though.

rSFF shouldn't happen.

But Tumblr factor and pic factor could.

...as well as Tumblr specific pic factor. This site is "frozen in time" after all. Our preferences are more set. Tumblr may be more variable.

Also, MGS3 might even just be flat stronger on GameFAQs. I doubt this but it's possible.
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Well, Tumblr factor should be a lot weaker tomorrow than today. We are looking at about 12,000 extra votes today.
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I think tumblr will be less than 3000 votes of the total.

I also agree that Zelda is a totally different beast btw. There are facebook groups with 30000 fans in them that are active. Like MAJOR fans too. It can make a move if admins get involved.
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Link's counterrally got off a 452 update. Not quite as big as Undertale's 498, but still larger than anything Draven pulled in his second wave afternoon rally.
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