GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1246
SonicMyHedgehog posted... I'm pretty sure compared to the other gens Okay what is it with random new people with "Sonic" in their name showing up today making bad posts I swear this is like the third one --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
LordoftheMorons posted... SonicMyHedgehog posted...I'm pretty sure compared to the other gens Smh Make sure to make your posts count =) (edited 12/9/2015 6:50:58 AM)report |
AxemRedRanger posted... It's not only that the newer games are probably better but the sheer reverence the gaming masses have for RBY combined with their dismissal of anything after GSC even being close to those games that does it. I never really understood hating things because they're popular. I've played all of the Pokemon games besides BW2 and ORAS and have enjoyed them all, but I don't think the improvements made really diminish the originals. It's also kinda inevitable that gens 1 and 2 would get a disproportionate amount of love among the general population since Pokemon was such a cultural phenomenon back in 1998-2000. That couldn't keep up forever, and soon Pokemon was going to have to decline in popularity down to normal video game levels. UltimaterializerX posted... I like Gold and Silver the best. I personally agree with this though --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
f*** rbyg Soulsilver should have replaced it |
(To
be clear, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to think gen 1 is the
worst gen; I just think the games are similar enough that it's pretty
weird to enjoy the later ones while actively hating the originals) --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
It's
fine to don't like their replay value, but most of them got into
Pokemon through RBY. It's the first ones they were great for their times
otherwise Pokemon wouldn't be what it is today. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
Rank the Undertale matches, for me... Mass Effect 3 Pokemon RBYG Fallout 3 Super Mario World --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > BK, LoZ: LttP > LoZ: MM Points 179/224 |
ctesjbuvf posted... It's fine to don't like their replay value, but most of them got into Pokemon through RBY. It's the first ones they were great for their times otherwise Pokemon wouldn't be what it is today. So nostalgia goggles |
LordoftheMorons posted... (To be clear, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to think gen 1 is the worst gen; I just think the games are similar enough that it's pretty weird to enjoy the later ones while actively hating the originals) as noted gen 1 hater, this is how i feel. when i go on diatribes about the things that make gen 1 objectively terrible i am only referring to them compared to other pokemon games - generally though i'm voting for pokemon the series when i am voting for pokemon in the contest and i f***ing love pokemon in general |
In gen 1 All you need is a lapras, Pursian, and alakazam to win any battle Speed = high critical hit Psychic had no opposition, beedrill was too fragile |
SonicMyHedgehog posted... ctesjbuvf posted...It's fine to don't like their replay value, but most of them got into Pokemon through RBY. It's the first ones they were great for their times otherwise Pokemon wouldn't be what it is today. What are you even talking about? I didn't say I prefer RBY to later gens. In fact, I have a hard time going back to before moves of the same type could be both physical and special. But I played the hell out of the games as a kid and thanks to them Pokemon is the even more fantastic thing it is today, so I don't suddenly start hating the games. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
UltimaterializerX posted... I like Gold and Silver the best. It's the sweet spot for the series, before we had 700+ Pokemon to catch and had to treat it like a job instead of a video game. "Genwunners" refers to the people who played RBY back during the initial craze, ditched the series as soon as it went out of fashion and dismiss all the pokemon other than the original 151 as badly designed trash. Pokemon fans in general don't hate RBY, we're just tired of those people. Having played every gen I also think GSC is the best. --- Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
Anything
about generation I being easy is stupid though. The games are
objectively more easy today. GameFreak admitted themselves they're doing
that on purpose and stated why too. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
ctesjbuvf posted... Anything about generation I being easy is stupid though. The games are objectively more easy today. GameFreak admitted themselves they're doing that on purpose and stated why too. I mean, the whole series is easy compared to a lot of RPGs. You don't play pokemon for a challenge unless it's self-imposed That being said I remember having some issues with the rival battle in Silph Co as a kid --- Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
Yup, at most three Pokemon for each gym leader and four to the elite 4 is pretty bad. I wish they would make a hard mode, more Pokemon for the gym leaders and battle maison level AI. --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > BK, LoZ: LttP > LoZ: MM Points 179/224 |
pirate109 posted... "Genwunners" refers to the people who played RBY back during the initial craze, ditched the series as soon as it went out of fashion and dismiss all the pokemon other than the original 151 as badly designed trash. Pokemon fans in general don't hate RBY, we're just tired of those people. This is completely understandable, but hating games you actually liked instead of annoying fans is plain stupid. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
That being said I remember having some issues with the rival battle in Silph Co as a kid The level jump got me too. Apparently you were suppose to go down to Fuchsia City before taking on Saffron. --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: OoT > BK, LoZ: LttP > LoZ: MM Points 179/224 |
charmander6000 posted... Yup, at most three Pokemon for each gym leader and four to the elite 4 is pretty bad. I think Black 2 had a hard mode. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
ctesjbuvf posted... pirate109 posted..."Genwunners" refers to the people who played RBY back during the initial craze, ditched the series as soon as it went out of fashion and dismiss all the pokemon other than the original 151 as badly designed trash. Pokemon fans in general don't hate RBY, we're just tired of those people. I grew out of liking gen 1 solely from the game |
charmander6000 posted... That being said I remember having some issues with the rival battle in Silph Co as a kid I just had nothing for his Alakazam lol, such an OP mon in gen 1 --- Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
ctesjbuvf posted... charmander6000 posted...Yup, at most three Pokemon for each gym leader and four to the elite 4 is pretty bad. There was, but the only "hard" parts were the first two gyms, and even that is not "hard" The problem was that they gave the trainers higher leveled Pokemon, but thanks to Gen V EXP mechanics it made your Pokemon levle up much faster too From the third gym onwards I actually found it easier, since you learn stronger moves and your Pokemon evolves earlier --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Oh yeah finished reading 1244 Must say that the ads discussion was the funniest thing in the history of the stats topics --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Next update is when MM started it's comeback against Super Metroid ...But it probably shares the same trend as LTTP, so it doesn't matter --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
pirate109 posted... UltimaterializerX posted...I like Gold and Silver the best. It's the sweet spot for the series, before we had 700+ Pokemon to catch and had to treat it like a job instead of a video game. Or people that played the awesome and original RBY, then left the series when they realized that G/S were a complete rehash and brought nothing new to the table. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
is rehash the new word for improvement |
Black Turtle do you even enjoy games anymore --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
My favorite generation is Gen 2 myself. I am angry now that Melee beat both CT and Pokemon G/S/C with a rally! --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... pirate109 posted...UltimaterializerX posted...I like Gold and Silver the best. It's the sweet spot for the series, before we had 700+ Pokemon to catch and had to treat it like a job instead of a video game. That's true actually. GSC introduced nothing new, just stuff like 100 new mons, 2 new types, new battle mechanics, day/night mechanics, breeding, a post-game, a final boss separate from the E4 what a shameless rehash --- Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
I like how when rallies push MM way ahead of GameFAQs' actual taste a lot of this topic was suddenly okay with it. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Personally I like MM to win today. --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... I like how when rallies push MM way ahead of GameFAQs' actual taste a lot of this topic was suddenly okay with it. Well, I've not been against rallies at all! I'm outspoken in that regard. |
What's good about Pokemon imo is the multiplayer battles, and those have mostly improved since gen 1. A lot of people here rate pokemon as an RPG (where it's decent at best) and fail to consider how great of a strategy game it is. (edited 12/9/2015 8:03:33 AM)report |
Also
I'm lolling so hard at the people on reddit calling us out for buying
wins. It actually is hilarious to me that people are considering it. Red sox, you were talking about click through rates in the last topic. You can actually just pay for clicks and bid about 20 cents per click which should have a high voter rate if you prime people for it. If you tell them click here to vote for this game then odds are if they click it they will vote. I disagree with using impression costing and clickbaity headlines because it's completely unknown if that would result in votes. It could end up being more cost effective but it's a gamble. Lastly, there are ways to get Facebook coupons for like 50% off credit to make your money go farther. Google it. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
AlecTrevelyan006 posted... DaruniaTheGoron posted...I like how when rallies push MM way ahead of GameFAQs' actual taste a lot of this topic was suddenly okay with it. Yeah I wasn't talking about you man. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
I
wasn't able to enjoy G/S as much as I enjoyed R/B. I found Gen 1 to be
incredibly thrilling, but I felt Gen 2, even with a lot of (except for a
few) problems fixed from the first Gen, was lacking depth. It
introduced a lot of amazing mechanics, but some of them were
weird/unnecessary (STEEL type? Okay...), or even not so beneficial for
the game itself (revisiting Kanto was a thrilling idea, but it has way
too many closed areas and is no longer a charmful place). The story was
left unfinished and confusing (who the heck is your rival supposed to be
anyway?) and felt like wasted potential. I mean, it was a great game, but it could have definitely used some improvements. It just didn't feel quite like the "all-new, next generation" Pokemon game to me. --- Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective? |
I
appear to be late to the discussion but I'm sad that people hate Gen 1
for being a "broken, buggy mess" when that's the exact reason I hold it
in such high regard ~_~ |
As
long as the MM doesn't win just because of a rally, I can live with it
looking a bit good. And I didn't even realize at first what caused it. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
Advokaiser posted... I wasn't able to enjoy G/S as much as I enjoyed R/B. I found Gen 1 to be incredibly thrilling, but I felt Gen 2, even with a lot of (except for a few) problems fixed from the first Gen, was lacking depth. It introduced a lot of amazing mechanics, but some of them were weird/unnecessary (STEEL type? Okay...), or even not so beneficial for the game itself (revisiting Kanto was a thrilling idea, but it has way too many closed areas and is no longer a charmful place). The story was left unfinished and confusing (who the heck is your rival supposed to be anyway?) and felt like wasted potential. You haven't played gen 2's remake or the gen 1 pandering XY have you |
I
always knew MM's lead was a temporary thing and it would fall back to
Earth. It actually held in there a lot longer than I expected. If it had actually kept the lead (in a way where it was clear the spillover was to blame), or if it later gets a rally I'd be unhappy again even though it's both my favorite Zelda and actually what my bracket has. As is, it's true the spillover is affecting the stats, which is annoying, but that's just a side effect of Undertale, nothing that could be done about it aside form like taking the day off from the contest before starting the match. really feeling the pro-rally people are just looking for ways to paint the anti-rally people as hypocrites. i honestly think most people who are against rallies have mostly resigned and moved on a long time ago, don't know why this keeps getting rehashed. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
SonicMyHedgehog posted... You haven't played gen 2's remake or the gen 1 pandering XY have you XY was the most disappointing games imo. Almost as little post-game material as gen I and coming right after BW2, that was just sad. I don't see why those games in particular should be gen 1 pandering. I don't know why I bother really, guess I just like discussing Pokemon in general. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
Regaro posted... I appear to be late to the discussion but I'm sad that people hate Gen 1 for being a "broken, buggy mess" when that's the exact reason I hold it in such high regard ~_~ Missingno. is an incredibly hilarious glitch and largely convenient. But man, the cloning glitch in Gen 2 doesn't fall behind! It's also a pretty measured-up, non-breaking glitch, which is just amazing since you can clone virtually anything you want without harming the game. You gotta give props to that, too! --- Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective? |
It's
still affecting the result and people were happy about it affecting the
stats despite previously claiming they didn't want rallies at all and
it should reflect GameFAQs taste. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Apparently there's some smash Bros video presentation on Tuesday. Too bad it wasn't on Sunday. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
The
way I read it was people were mostly having fun with it. Again, what
are we supposed to do? It was spillover from Undertale. It doesn't
matter what the next match was, it was going to be affected. sorry next time i'll make sure to talk about how contests are ruined for me and i don't look forward to having any more contests and think the board would be better if we never left offseason instead of trying to make the best of what i think is a terrible situation. i'm sure we'll all enjoy that more --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
SonicMyHedgehog posted... Advokaiser posted...I wasn't able to enjoy G/S as much as I enjoyed R/B. I found Gen 1 to be incredibly thrilling, but I felt Gen 2, even with a lot of (except for a few) problems fixed from the first Gen, was lacking depth. It introduced a lot of amazing mechanics, but some of them were weird/unnecessary (STEEL type? Okay...), or even not so beneficial for the game itself (revisiting Kanto was a thrilling idea, but it has way too many closed areas and is no longer a charmful place). The story was left unfinished and confusing (who the heck is your rival supposed to be anyway?) and felt like wasted potential. No, I haven't. I hear HG/SS are some of the best in the series quite often and vastly improved over G/S/C, so I guess it must only be true. I haven't played anything besides Gen 1 and 2; that being said, X/Y also really interests me, but I'd rather play the games in order so I can apreciate the Generations over time and so it doesn't turn out to be a hard thing for me to go back and play the older games in the franchise. --- Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective? |
Advokaiser posted... Regaro posted...I appear to be late to the discussion but I'm sad that people hate Gen 1 for being a "broken, buggy mess" when that's the exact reason I hold it in such high regard ~_~ Yeah, that one's cool too. But what I'm saying is that I've gotten more enjoyment out of exploring Gen 1s glitches and figuring out how they tick than literally any other video game I've ever played. That alone is enough for me to value it over almost every other game in existence. It's not just Missingno. even if that's the most well known. (edited 12/9/2015 8:26:37 AM)report |
Regaro posted... what I'm saying is that I've gotten more enjoyment out of explore Gen 1s glitches and figuring out how they tick than literally any other video game I've ever played. That alone is enough for me to value it over almost every other game in existence. Then you MUST try out games like DRIV3R and International Superstar Soccer Deluxe. Those games have a glitchy world of their own and are a genuine blast to play once you figure out how to exploit them. Ocarina of Time is a pretty good contender too. --- Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective? |
OoT
became such a better game to me once I started playing around with its
glitches and trying my hand at some (bad) speedrunning. I'd definitely
recommend playing around with it for anyone who thinks they'd be
interested in that kind of thing at all. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
You know, there are many reasons why people enjoy Pokemon games For some people, it's the journey itself - it's encountering new Pokemon, new towns, talking with NPCs, reading the story behind the region etc For others, it's about collecting - from just catching them all, to getting shinies, Pokemon with Hidden Ability, Pokemon with different forms etc Another thing is breeding, those people might or might not even play against others, they just like to breed BR (Battle Ready) Pokemon And of course, people that play for the multiplayer - there is a competition every two months or so, in addition to just regular online battles Another thing that people don't give enough credit to is Pokemon fanart, fanfics and so on - It's actually huge part of the appeal, /v/ used to have a daily Skyla/Elsa thread back in the day (I think it was before /vp/ was created) If you don't care about collecting, breeding, fanart and you think that the battle mechanics of Pokemon is bad and the game has watered down journey compared to big RPGs then you won't enjoy Pokemon, of course --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Any
notion that pokemon gen 1 has a specific fanbase and the rest of
pokemon has another fanbase is a defense mechanism to why the game lost.
Undertale is more rally-able on the best site for pokemon rallies right
now (both tumblr obviously). No game has "rally" potential except undertale in this contest. Tumblr makes fun of gfaqers for caring too much, but they care just as much about undertale winning this. No other game has much rally potential (before people mention Melee..... it isn't being rallied, its just recovered its fanbase because its the most competitive game in the series) at all. The internet just doesnt care about this anymore. Its not 2003 anymore. The vast majority of people and fanbases have moved on. Its why after Draven started mauling Link even Link didn't do s*** to "rally". Tumblr wants undertale to win because tumblr likes injecting their opinions everywhere. If LoL was nominated, maybe it would have rally potential due to immense size and loud fanbase that also likes to inject their opinions everywhere. But people thinking Mario 64 has a shot are delusional. It will get slaughtered more the pokemon. Most games in these contests have extremely fragmented fanbases, theres no big place to even rally for them..... |