I am a little bit concerned about the ASV. Back when it was still a real thing, SM64 cut 1.5% on LTTP with it, and (N64) Zelda's ASV is stronger than Mario's. As the bulk of the Undertale rally came in the ASV, that's where most of the spillover that hasn't already been used will come.

LTTP will probably be ahead by too much by then for MM to do anything, but if it's close, watch out.
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Argh no LttP my #2 Zelda doing this to my #1 Zelda this is the worst well not really but you get the idea
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also what a silly thing I have made
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You know, if we assume MM>LTTP because of rally spillover, how do we explain OOT putting such a beating and still increasing?
Ocarina looked bad in the last two rounds, but now it's overperforming
Unless FFIX is indeed a monster
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After seeing this I need to switch my vote back to LTTP for next round.

Seems my votes are pretty changeable.....there is only one real imperative - support Chrono Trigger/Crono always.
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If we're going to credit spillover with favoring an intra-Zelda matchup at something ridiculous like 70%+ for MM, then you've got to do something even more drastic for Ocarina of Time. Which makes it look a lot worse and SotN a lot better on natural GameFAQs strength, but I have no idea how one would adjust that.
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Lttp firmly taking back control.

Should be 55-45 or better as the night wears on. Time for bed.
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red sox 777 posted...
I am a little bit concerned about the ASV. Back when it was still a real thing, SM64 cut 1.5% on LTTP with it, and (N64) Zelda's ASV is stronger than Mario's. As the bulk of the Undertale rally came in the ASV, that's where most of the spillover that hasn't already been used will come.

LTTP will probably be ahead by too much by then for MM to do anything, but if it's close, watch out.

This occurred to me as well! Tumblr may make a return later as it's normal proportion of votes increases. I sure hope not!

Nanis23 posted...
You know, if we assume MM>LTTP because of rally spillover, how do we explain OOT putting such a beating and still increasing?
Ocarina looked bad in the last two rounds, but now it's overperforming
Unless FFIX is indeed a monster

OoT has a great pic instead of a bad one.
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Votals at 1:50:

LTTP/MM - 12670
RBY/UT - 13678
CT/SSBM - 10684
OOT/FFIX - 8295

We are still about 2000 votes ahead of CT/SSBM, and Melee had already brought in around 2400 extra votes by this time.
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Karma Hunter posted...
If we're going to credit spillover with favoring an intra-Zelda matchup at something ridiculous like 70%+ for MM, then you've got to do something even more drastic for Ocarina of Time. Which makes it look a lot worse and SotN a lot better on natural GameFAQs strength, but I have no idea how one would adjust that.


Oot is almost holding steady here if you look at individual updates. If it drops a couple points it's right in my doubling prediction.
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Doubling SotN isn't really good like I said before, even if we give a lot of credit to SotN. T&T projects it to be right at FFIX's level... so the FFIX pic was worth about a point and a half to it? THAT WAS A LOT OF COMPLAINING FOR A POINT AND A HALF
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Karma Hunter posted...
If we're going to credit spillover with favoring an intra-Zelda matchup at something ridiculous like 70%+ for MM, then you've got to do something even more drastic for Ocarina of Time. Which makes it look a lot worse and SotN a lot better on natural GameFAQs strength, but I have no idea how one would adjust that.

Why do you think it would do something drastic for OoT? Both it and SOTN are old games. I don't see how one could with confidence say anything about Tumblr's preferences there.

Aldo I don't think we need to project this as 70% of spillover for LttP. Without SFF this is a 54-55% match. Unless spillover returns later, I think LttP will win. A 3-4 point underperformance can be explained by pic factor, and random wonkiness.

With those numbers (LttP at 50-52%) I would think the spillover computes to much less than 70%, though I haven't done the math.
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speaking of which Majora's Mask's pic advantage isn't good enough right now
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Lol We All Know Its Gonna Be FF7 vs OOT in the FinALS
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T&T projects it to FFIX last contest, right? I believe we're pretty sure FFIX also boosted
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creativename posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
If we're going to credit spillover with favoring an intra-Zelda matchup at something ridiculous like 70%+ for MM, then you've got to do something even more drastic for Ocarina of Time. Which makes it look a lot worse and SotN a lot better on natural GameFAQs strength, but I have no idea how one would adjust that.

Why do you think it would do something drastic for OoT? Both it and SOTN are old games.


Tumblr goes bonkers for Zelda. Who the hell even knows if people there have heard of SotN. There's no doubt in my mind they'd go much more lopsidedly for OoT > SotN than natural GameFAQs voters.
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Tumblr goes bonkers for Zelda. Who the hell even knows if people there have heard of SotN. There's no doubt in my mind they'd go much more lopsidedly for OoT > SotN than natural GameFAQs voters.


How do we know that? We have a list from them showing Zelda at #2 gaming thing blogged about. On Gamefaqs, it's #1, and Castlevania is far far down the list.
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And I don't credit a 65-70% split for MM > LttP on tumblr, but there are others here who do. In that case, you've got to say OoT is overperforming if MM is overperforming.
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FFIX has probably had another good boost since Game of the Decade. It didn't necessarily seem like it based on comparing the round 1 result with Game of the Decade x-stats and likely FFX/FFIX SFF but that Twilight Princess/Kingdom Hearts II match from GotD looks very fishy after Kingdom Hearts II/Melee

I'd guess maybe KH and KHII are about as strong as they were in 2009 and have been so ever since, with FFIX beating KHI on its own strength rather than KHI's weakness.

This means Bioshock would also be underrated in the GotD x-stats. The good news for MGS3 keeps coming! (sorry KH)
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red sox 777 posted...
Tumblr goes bonkers for Zelda. Who the hell even knows if people there have heard of SotN. There's no doubt in my mind they'd go much more lopsidedly for OoT > SotN than natural GameFAQs voters.


How do we know that? We have a list from them showing Zelda at #2 gaming thing blogged about. On Gamefaqs, it's #1, and Castlevania is far far down the list.


You are welcome to believe the gap between OoT and SotN is smaller on tumblr than it is on GameFAQs.

I doubt you get many takers, but you're free to believe it.
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LTTP by the hour:

1:00 | 46.87%
2:00 | 50.49%
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Quick question, were the divisions these games are in selected randomly? It doesn't seem like a coincidence that the three best Zeldas will have to kill each other off so only one can get into the later rounds.
8th on the leaderboard yet dead- brutal
Ugh looking at the other brackets with Melee in the finals I think I need LttP to pull through here to keep my bracket alive

I am so upset right now screw my bracket GO MAJORA
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jonnyfresh712 posted...
Quick question, were the divisions these games are in selected randomly? It doesn't seem like a coincidence that the three best Zeldas will have to kill each other off so only one can get into the later rounds.


SBAllen never said how exactly the game were organized. It's definitely not random, though.
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Yeah, I think LTTP probably wins with the way things are looking, but Majora's Mask has suddenly gone from being the one everyone wants to lose in a really tight match to the one everyone wants to win in a really tight match

it always manages to flip the script just like in GOTD
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Karma Hunter posted...
http://i.imgur.com/Bgb9cmZ.png

also what a silly thing I have made


also if this pic isn't chosen there is no justice in this world
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Where do you even rally for Majora's Mask over LttP

...oh right tumblr
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You are welcome to believe the gap between OoT and SotN is smaller on tumblr than it is on GameFAQs.

I doubt you get many takers, but you're free to believe it.


I don't really have a position on it. No data. I mean, if you're set on the narrative of OOT disappointing you can argue it.......

LTTP putting up a nice, respectable number next round would say a lot more.
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Using red's numbers from before, if we project LttP at 52% naturally, it should lead by .04*12670=506.8. It's lead was 532, with 4375 extra votes from OoT vs. FFIX. That projects to MM having 61.87% of the spillover (if I'm doing the math right!).

Thanks for the numbers red.

Karma Hunter posted...
Tumblr goes bonkers for Zelda. Who the hell even knows if people there have heard of SotN. There's no doubt in my mind they'd go much more lopsidedly for OoT > SotN than natural GameFAQs voters.

I don't know about that. We might be more bonkers for Zelda than they are!
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48 vote cut. That was a 58% update for LTTP.

Welcome to the night vote.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, I think LTTP probably wins with the way things are looking, but Majora's Mask has suddenly gone from being the one everyone wants to lose in a really tight match to the one everyone wants to win in a really tight match

it always manages to flip the script just like in GOTD


Basically like the Stone Tower Temple.
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We might favor Zelda more than tumblr, but SotN is one of those 'GameFAQs Specials'. Not on the level of CT, but enough to be a solid midcarder while I can't imagine it being anything but fodder to tumblr.
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No LttP no

stop trying to save my bracket
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UberPyro64 posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, I think LTTP probably wins with the way things are looking, but Majora's Mask has suddenly gone from being the one everyone wants to lose in a really tight match to the one everyone wants to win in a really tight match

it always manages to flip the script just like in GOTD


Basically like the Stone Tower Temple.


MM deserves to win everything because of Stone Tower Temple
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I never thought I'd be this mad at one of my favorite games saving my bracket and winning a match I was 100% sure it would win to begin with

but here we are
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LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
http://i.imgur.com/Bgb9cmZ.png

also what a silly thing I have made


also if this pic isn't chosen there is no justice in this world

The contest was secretly a quotes contest all along!
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Yeah, LTTP probably wins.

Like I said, it makes sense if there's any Tumblr spillover for it to favor Majora's Mask since the average age of Tumblr is much lower than ours. Most of them weren't even born yet when LTTP came out. OoT and Majora's Mask are the Zeldas they grew up on.
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what is this match

how is this happening

I

guys, is there any chance MM holds on and wins? Any chance at all? Because that would be the straight up greatest result of all time for me.
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Oh hey looks like a Pokemon twitter with 20k followers liked my tweet
But they didn't retweet it
And seems like Bulbapedia did tweet! but it didn't change a thing

I really need to let it go
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Do you think a group of people fighting for something else to lose are more powerful than those fighting for something to win?
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Oh look, Majora's Mask's percentage went up again.
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What is this......is someone rallying?
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omg majora gained

c'mon MM, c'mon c'mon c'mon! You can do this! Keep building up that lead!
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Karma Hunter posted...
Where do you even rally for Majora's Mask over LttP

...oh right tumblr


karma hunter did it guys

and we know from previous comments that he's a tumblr expert!
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And seems like Bulbapedia did tweet! but it didn't change a thing

I really need to let it go


One of the Pokemon developers tweeted, and it didn't do a thing. Or rather, Undertale and Pokemon's vote intake both went up by about the same amount.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Where do you even rally for Majora's Mask over LttP

...oh right tumblr


karma hunter did it guys

and we know from previous comments that he's a tumblr expert!


Dammit I refuse to believe SotN also has nonsensical strength on tumblr
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