it's not too late

"You've got a great butt" is truly one of the most memorable lines in the series
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That picture is iconic (back of dat box) and I have a much better quality one, but I don't think it 'works' well going up against MGS3
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12/8/2015 10:08:30 PM#303
Why were people going 60-40 for aLttP? aLttP isn't that much stronger than MM and there shouldn't be a crushing amount of SFF.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Why were people going 60-40 for aLttP? aLttP isn't that much stronger than MM and there shouldn't be a crushing amount of SFF.


"Majora's Mask was an OoT proxy in GOTD and thus a fraud"

LOL whoops
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I don't know I was hearing weird LttP > OoT hype people were being weird okay!
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60-40 seems reasonable without SFF based on CT/FFX. I'm still not conceding that until we see more of this match, to see how much is spillover.
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LTTP triples Super Metroid
Super Metroid almost beat Majora's Mask
Majora's Mask beating LTTP

Yeah
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Why were people going 60-40 for aLttP? aLttP isn't that much stronger than MM and there shouldn't be a crushing amount of SFF.


We assumed LttP was a pretty good step above MM in the Zelda hierarchy (it did beat MM pretty easily in a favorite Zelda poll less than 3 months after MM won GotD) and because there will probably be at least some SFF going on. I didn't assume there would be a lot of SFF, like if it faced OoT instead.
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Nanis23 posted...
LTTP triples Super Metroid
Super Metroid almost beat Majora's Mask
Majora's Mask beating LTTP

Yeah


Dont question the ways of Zelda. Link works in mysterious ways.
LeonhartFour posted...
Like I said, Perfect Dark projected a 55/45 win for LTTP!

Did I do the math right? I'm very rusty on x-stats! >_>

Scarlettail posted...
I think a lot of UT fans that had already voted were watching the end of its match and just voted in this one. The match is still a popular topic on steam as a small example.

Interesting, thanks for the info.
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Nanis23 posted...
LTTP triples Super Metroid
Super Metroid almost beat Majora's Mask
Majora's Mask beating LTTP

Yeah

Either Majora's Mask has grown alot more powerful in the last few days, or...

"Power levels are bullsh*t!"
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12/8/2015 10:14:32 PM#313
red sox 777 posted...
60-40 seems reasonable without SFF based on CT/FFX. I'm still not conceding that until we see more of this match, to see how much is spillover.


Why would you use that match? It's pretty clear that CT this year is a completely different level the CT in the past. ALttp had not done anything to make people believe it was anywhere near CT in strength.
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Well I think this proves that rSFF is a thing

and LttP destroyed Super Metroid with it
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
there's no way LttP would be winning right now among GameFAQs only voters any better than 55-45


Yes it would, just trust me on that one. This is rSFF and a huge picture advantage. Just a huge situational advantage in general for MM.

And before any one starts, let me just throw it out there: the picture matters more than usual in SFF matches like this one. The fanbase clearly loves both games; an attractive picture can sway them.

I don't see why it would be SFF. The pic advantage is pretty huge here. Plus spillover. And the stats indicate this as being a close-ish match.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the pics were worth a 5+ point swing.
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creativename posted...
Did I do the math right? I'm very rusty on x-stats! >_>


Well, going through Perfect Dark was probably the best direct point of comparison to use. The only other game from GOTD in LTTP's half of the division was Deus Ex, and that projected a...

*checks*

55% win for LTTP right on the dot. Perfect Dark projected 55.03% for LTTP.

So, uh, yeah. Pretty consistent there!
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It's a good combination of spillover and pic factor and maybe some underestimation of MM. It will be closer than we thought, but I'll be seriously amazed if Majora actually wins. As votals plunge LTTP ekes closer to winning updates.
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LTTP is super effective against Metroid, MM is neutral element and higher level than LTTP. The contest metagame just keeps evolving
Because I was thinking CT's boost was from an across the board SNES boost, not unqiue to CT. I figured CT got the biggest boost, so CT/LTTP would be like 55/45 for CT or less.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
red sox 777 posted...
60-40 seems reasonable without SFF based on CT/FFX. I'm still not conceding that until we see more of this match, to see how much is spillover.


Why would you use that match? It's pretty clear that CT this year is a completely different level the CT in the past. ALttp had not done anything to make people believe it was anywhere near CT in strength.


People are stuck on OLDFAQS and YEAR OF SNES
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You know what's weird

MM is winning in the US and aLttP is winning in the UK despite European bias against SNES
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CT is now this site's #1 or #2 game. The most important part of its boost has been pretty unique to it!
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12/8/2015 10:20:23 PM#324
LeonhartFour posted...
creativename posted...
Did I do the math right? I'm very rusty on x-stats! >_>


Well, going through Perfect Dark was probably the best direct point of comparison to use. The only other game from GOTD in LTTP's half of the division was Deus Ex, and that projected a...

*checks*

55% win for LTTP right on the dot. Perfect Dark projected 55.03% for LTTP.

So, uh, yeah. Pretty consistent there!


If you assume Civ 5 = GotD Civ 4, you get 55% as well.
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If theoretically the spillover favors Majora's Mask 65-35 and LttP would normally win with around 54%, that means you only need a spillover of about 10,000 votes for Majora's Mask to win. We're already over 1/4th of the way there
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Well, we might find out next round, assuming LTTP comes back here and resists SFF from OOT.
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red sox 777 posted...
Sigh that Melee match ruined this contest for me. It would have been so fun, rooting for OOT in the final, knowing it was up against tremendous odds.

Undertale brightened my spirits for a few hours today, but only a bonus poll will heal this one.

Wait, you would've rooted for OoT over Chrono Trigger...? Or am I not reading this right?
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I would have rooted for OOT had CT lost to Undertale (or a rallied Pokemon, I guess).
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red sox 777 posted...
60-40 seems reasonable without SFF based on CT/FFX. I'm still not conceding that until we see more of this match, to see how much is spillover.

CT/FFX shouldn't have anything to do with LttP. It was clear before this match CT boosted on it's own, nothing to do with any other game.
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Yesterday's charts:

Time | R/B/Y | Undertale | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 68.52% | 31.48% | 1293 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 62.49% | 37.51% | 8501 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 54.48% | 45.52% | 20995 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 56.44% | 43.56% | 13185 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 52.91% | 47.09% | 26537 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 38.51% | 61.49% | 43682 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 43.86% | 56.14% | 6995 | (22:00-24:00)

Time | Skyrim | Mario 64 | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 35.47% | 64.53% | 1280 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 34.15% | 65.85% | 8280 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 39.02% | 60.98% | 20042 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 38.65% | 61.35% | 12544 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 39.37% | 60.63% | 25246 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 39.62% | 60.38% | 40163 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 35.92% | 64.08% | 6512 | (22:00-24:00)

Good luck against that, Melee.
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Cut #2.
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Also if this results holds I think it's safe to call this the most shocking results this contest that wasn't affected by a rally
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LeonhartFour posted...
creativename posted...
Did I do the math right? I'm very rusty on x-stats! >_>


Well, going through Perfect Dark was probably the best direct point of comparison to use. The only other game from GOTD in LTTP's half of the division was Deus Ex, and that projected a...

*checks*

55% win for LTTP right on the dot. Perfect Dark projected 55.03% for LTTP.

So, uh, yeah. Pretty consistent there!

Was my Twilight Princess/SM64 math projection correct though?
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Nanis23 posted...
Also if this results holds I think it's safe to call this the most shocking results this contest that wasn't affected by a rally


until tomorrow anyway
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creativename posted...
Was my Twilight Princess/SM64 math projection correct though?


Oh yeah, that was correct.

Speaking of which...

Super Mario 64 vs. Majora's Mask: Who ya got?

Super Mario World vs. Link to the Past: Who ya got?
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Huge dropoff in votals and lttp cuts again
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I need LTTP to win to hold my perfect record for calling matches. As far as I can remember, I don't think I've been wrong a single time after calling the match over since I started doing trend projections around 2008. Of course, it helps to be conservative with calling matches. But I called this for LTTP after update 3.
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Nanis23 posted...
Also if this results holds I think it's safe to call this the most shocking results this contest that wasn't affected by a rally


It has been affected by a rally though.
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_SJimW_ posted...
You know what's weird

MM is winning in the US and aLttP is winning in the UK despite European bias against SNES

Tumblr is mostly US right?

So that might explain why MM is over performing in the US.

Though the UK votes are very low and unstable right now, so it might mean nothing.
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Friendly reminder that Super Metroid beat Majora's Mask in America last round
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LeonhartFour posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Also if this results holds I think it's safe to call this the most shocking results this contest that wasn't affected by a rally


until tomorrow anyway


MGS-MGS3 can go either way
You mean Mario RPG>RE4?
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Looks like it's tapered off a bit and LttP may even have a chance of winning the 2nd hour.

Figured it'd have to wait for the third hour for that. Probably not looking so hot for MM right now.
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Also if this results holds I think it's safe to call this the most shocking results this contest that wasn't affected by a rally


It has been affected by a rally though.


Yeah, but small and neutral one at that
There are 23 more hours that won't have a rally
Unless it ends up to be a very very close win to Majora's Mask, it will be mostly GameFAQs votes
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Majoras Mask has everything in its favor here to beat LTTP. It will never get an opportunity as good as this. Increased vote totals, pic advantage and OoT in the poll next to it. If it cant pull this off it never will.
...So it looks like things might be shaping up to have us see a game that almost nobody thought would even be in serious contention actually take the lead and get people's hopes up before ridiculously collapsing.

I'd say karma can be a b**** sometimes but that might be misinterpreted here!
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3 consecutive cuts. Soon, these cuts will be a lot bigger.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
...So it looks like things might be shaping up to have us see a game that almost nobody thought would even be in serious contention actually take the lead and get people's hopes up before ridiculously collapsing.

I'd say karma can be a b**** sometimes but that might be misinterpreted here!


nah I totally can
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LeonhartFour posted...
creativename posted...
Was my Twilight Princess/SM64 math projection correct though?


Oh yeah, that was correct.

Speaking of which...

Super Mario 64 vs. Majora's Mask: Who ya got?

Super Mario World vs. Link to the Past: Who ya got?

SM64 should win as it did better on TP than MM probably would without SFF.

I'll still lean towards LttP, though not confident anymore. I do think this result is largely pic influenced - and very possibly heavy spillover as well- and not indicative of LttP being naturally weak.

Also as we project LttP to win stats wise with 54-55%, this result isn't quite as shocking as I thought, though still certainly very surprising.
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Yeah well, LTTP got this
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