TheCodeisBosco posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also, I love how we've gone from "f*** Melee and its f***ing rallies upsetting CT" to "COME ON MELEE USE YOUR RALLIES TO BEAT UNDERTALE!" in the span of a f***ing day.


In my defense, I never flipped.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72948312/838546832


Me neither. Rooting for FFVII in a match I don't believe it'll win in the slightest.
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I can just imagine right now how people felt tracking that last update on the updater

seeing the 50% and their eyes widen, 'IS POKEMON TURNING THE TIDE?'

then they see it was a fake update and Undertale padded another 125 votes to its lead
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Karma Hunter posted...
I can just imagine right now how people felt tracking that last update on the updater

seeing the 50% and their eyes widen, 'IS POKEMON TURNING THE TIDE?'

then they see it was a fake update and Undertale padded another 125 votes to its lead


No actually, everyone is used to that by now. If a update breaks trends, the first thing you check is timestamp.
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Honestly I'd be willing to eat FFVII losing to Melee if it meant Melee had a shot against Undertale but

it doesn't.

It has exactly zero chance against what we just saw this afternoon.


One of the top-voted comments on Reddit's big Smash rally was lamenting Undertale's loss to Super Mario World. People were... not happy about it. At all.

In an actual Melee/Undertale match, this rage would increase tenfold.

I don't think Melee has exactly zero chance. Super Mario 64? Yeah, its odds are exactly zero. Melee at least has a solid... I don't know? 5% chance? 10%? :p

I love Melee and Undertale alike, so it's really a win-win for me.
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I can just imagine right now how people felt tracking that last update on the updater

seeing the 50% and their eyes widen, 'IS POKEMON TURNING THE TIDE?'

then they see it was a fake update and Undertale padded another 125 votes to its lead


No actually, everyone is used to that by now. If a update breaks trends, the first thing you check is timestamp.


People didn't have enough pattern recognition to see that Undertale had done this kind of blitz three rounds straight, I'm damn sure not giving them that kind of credit
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Not_Wylvane posted...
Also, I love how we've gone from "f*** Melee and its f***ing rallies upsetting CT" to "COME ON MELEE USE YOUR RALLIES TO BEAT UNDERTALE!" in the span of a f***ing day.

This topic respects natural strength.

We respect GameFAQs democracy. Bandwagons are not so bad to most of us - L-Block had tons of support. In fact his support may have first started here.

But we don't really respect foreign invasions. Which is what rallies are. It's totally understandable and human.

If our favorite loses in legitimate democratic fashion, we are totally OK with that. But we don't like a game getting robbed by an invasion. Even when we like the game benefitting (people here love Melee but didn't want it to beat CT like that).

We want whoever is naturally stronger on this site, our site, to win. If the stronger game rallies to get a victory it would have gotten anyway, why would that bother anyone? That's silly of course; a reset to the norm is fine.

So if Melee goes against UT, of course most here will want Melee to rally hard as f***. As we should.
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People seem to forget one important thing about Link vs Draven. Reddit rallies were dying when Link was cutting. The thread on reddit was posted like 9 hours before the match started so it would go down early.

Tumblr does not stop.
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Karma Hunter posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I can just imagine right now how people felt tracking that last update on the updater

seeing the 50% and their eyes widen, 'IS POKEMON TURNING THE TIDE?'

then they see it was a fake update and Undertale padded another 125 votes to its lead


No actually, everyone is used to that by now. If a update breaks trends, the first thing you check is timestamp.


People didn't have enough pattern recognition to see that Undertale had done this kind of blitz three rounds straight, I'm damn sure not giving them that kind of credit


Fair enough.
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I think SM64 will probably do as well as Melee if not better seeing as Melee rallying will help SM64 that day whereas Melee will be by itself when it faces Undertale (neither will come close enough, though).
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Undertale has more votes than Draven during LSD and it will end up having more votes than Draven in all matches except the final.

Pretty good considering we have over 20% less votes than in 2013.
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
People seem to forget one important thing about Link vs Draven. Reddit rallies were dying when Link was cutting. The thread on reddit was posted like 9 hours before the match started so it would go down early.

Tumblr does not stop.


I think the Link/Draven rally was posted about 3 hours before the match started.
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Jim Sterling rallying for UT
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creativename posted...
If our favorite loses in legitimate democratic fashion, we are totally OK with that.


Well, that's a nice thing to SAY, but in reality...
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oh right. 9 hours was the final.
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I come back from the gym and this board is unreadable. Draven all over again.
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Tumblr does not stop.


I know this is leaving myself open to all the snide, "Nobody on this site understands Tumblr, GOD"-type comments, but... man, the unflappable nature of Undertale's support floors me.

Not only does the rallying not ease up as a match nears its conclusion, it has also shown no signs whatsoever of round-to-round fatigue.

Insane.
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FFS Allen, remove those stuffed Undertale votes already
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Did the lady heiress post?
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Voice of Myself.
And there it is, at last

Welcome to the League of Mass Effect 3, #2 Game in the Division
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Karma Hunter posted...
And there it is, at last

Welcome to the League of Mass Effect 3, #2 Game in the Division


If only It hadn't been fed to Undertale, it could have won a whole Division.
Such a wasted elite.
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MechanicalWall posted...
creativename posted...
If our favorite loses in legitimate democratic fashion, we are totally OK with that.


Well, that's a nice thing to SAY, but in reality...

It's true. How much whining do you see when our favorites lose a normal match? Little, and it's almost all in good humor.

Compare that to rallies. It's many orders of magnitude worse.

So what I said was not false.
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ROUND 4 – DAY 3 – ALL OF DIVISION 5 & 6

Match CXVII: (1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time vs. (2) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

Previous Rounds

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
91.03% against Hearthstone
76.89% against Suikoden II
64.96% against Final Fantasy IX

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
74.99% against Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
60.61% against Banjo-Kazooie
62.03% against Donkey Kong Country 2

Analysis

While some people blame the picture last round for Ocarina of Time’s performance even if you give it a few percentage points it would have still underperformed. Like what we saw in the Character Battle the gap between the strongest games and the rest of the pack is getting smaller. Ocarina of Time may be the strongest game, but its days of breaking 60% on everything outside of Final Fantasy VII are over.

Castlevania has quietly been having one of the performances of the contest. It may not be enough to break into the top 20, but it is definitely sitting on the outside looking in. Castlevania put Final Fantasy IX numbers on Phoenix Wright before putting Resident Evil 4 numbers on Banjo-Kazooie. I’m leaning towards the game finishing at around Final Fantasy IX though.

This match would probably be the biggest test to see if the adjacent match will have a noticeable effect. In total there will be three Zelda games among the four participating games. If Castlevania does do well, as in easily beating FFIX’s performance then I think we can confirm the factor as being true.

charmander6000’s Bracket: LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Banjo-Kazooie

charmander6000’s Prediction: LoZ: Ocarina of Time wins, 65.85% - 34.15%



Match CXVIII: (1) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past vs. (2) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask

Previous Rounds

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
88.02% against Cave Story
65.45% against Final Fantasy IV
70.58% against Dark Souls

The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
75.89% against Valkyria Chronicles
68.87% against Final Fantasy XII
50.53% against Super Metroid

Analysis

Some people gave Majora’s Mask a decent chance at defeating Link to the Past, but even before Super Metroid went even with it I thought it was a weird position to have. Among Zelda fans Ocarina of Time and Link to the Past are one and two. It’s hard to see a relatively large site like GameFAQs deviate from that and if it has it is more likely that Link to the Past has become the strongest game.

The main question becomes whether or not there will be SFF. Majora’s Mask is different enough that it could avoid the heavy SFF Zelda is known to commit, but it is hard to imagine that there wouldn’t be any. In a match without SFF I expect Link to the Past to finish in the mid-50s, but I think the game has a great chance at finishing well above 60%.

charmander6000’s Bracket: LoZ: Link to the Past > LoZ: Majora’s Mask

charmander6000’s Prediction: LoZ: Link to the Past wins, 62.11% - 37.89%
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Well, seems like Undertale is slowing down a bit.
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With a strong showing, OoT can send a signal that last round really was pic factor.
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Undertale has slowed down a little, but so has Pokemon. We're still seeing 60-40 updates.
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"F*** Draven." -SBAllen
Damnit... Pokemon... Undertale... f***... Damnit
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creativename posted...
With a strong showing, OoT can send a signal that last round really was pic factor.


I am on board
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Apathy wins, basically
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Man what the hell happened? Has there ever been a turnaround this large and so fast?
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12/8/2015 6:24:21 PM#380
On a side note, it feels weird seeing my match pic get spread all over the internet like this. Like I'm not bragging or wishing I had made a better pic or whatever (Chris's endorsement of the Pokemon picture is all I needed, that meant a lot from him), it's just weird. These days I enjoy the PCA and making pictures more than anything else in these contests, but I never imagined hundreds of thousands of people seeing my stuff. It's surreal.
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12/8/2015 6:24:41 PM#381
-FFDragon- posted...
Man what the hell happened? Has there ever been a turnaround this large and so fast?


Undertale > Mass Effect 3 in round one?
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-FFDragon- posted...
Man what the hell happened? Has there ever been a turnaround this large and so fast?


Yes

By Undertale
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Seriously, though, forget Melee or FF7, if Ocarina of Time, in the finals, can't stop Undertale nothing else will. I'm pretty convinced today that Ocarina is in no way a favorite going into the match, but there's something to be said for Zelda in the finals after its opponent has wrecked everyone's favorite games along the way, in questionable fashion at times. Gotta hope Ocarina can get the same boost Link got against Draven. It's not about day 1 strength anymore, it's all about that collective 'can we stop this thing we actually don't think is that great' kind of deal. Believe in Link that believes in GameFAQs
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I was going to vote for LTTP against OOT. But I don't want it to win that match and let Link off easy. I want OOT to bring its full firepower into the final, and let the battle be done.
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The thing is, Undertale is pretty darn difficult to rally against. It's huge everywhere right now and fresh in people's minds. We're seeing a great backfire here from the Pokemon rallies.
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I'm amazed that I've still literally never heard about Undertale outside the context of this contest.
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He won it in the year of the draggy crow
A rallied Melee has a better shot than OoT at beating Undertale, imo.
What is Undertale's natural GameFAQs strength on OoT by the finals

Hmm 60-40 sure that sounds okay to me
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If people can find a way to get semi-casual gamers to respond to the match somehow, they will vote overwhelmingly for OoT (they won't have heard of Undertale). Undertale is getting a decent amount of backfire support because it's popular among young hardcore gamers. Unfortunately, the less invested in games people are the harder it is to get them to care about the contest at all.
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Then we rally for the ultra-casuals

and Super Mario Brothers wins the next contest
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I still stand that Ocarina of Time carries weight at almost every corner of the Internet. There is no consensus 'best game ever,' but Ocarina of Time is about the closest thing there is. But Zelda will have some pretty significant rallies going for it, too. Link that faced Draven would have crushed any other Link in any other year, so I wouldn't expect the OOT in the final to be a 'normal' champion tier competitor. I mean Undertale, honestly and realistically probably still wins because Tumblr's ability to catch fire at any point is scary and gross, but I would definitely give it way more of a shot than anything left. It being a final match means something these others don't, I think.
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Karma Hunter posted...
What is Undertale's natural GameFAQs strength on OoT by the finals

Hmm 60-40 sure that sounds okay to me

I have never had an eternal rival and nemesis more than this year in this contest
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Link will make it a match. I predict he keeps the hope going until 11 pm.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Then we rally for the ultra-casuals

and Super Mario Brothers wins the next contest


I want this so f***ing bad.
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ZFS posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
What is Undertale's natural GameFAQs strength on OoT by the finals

Hmm 60-40 sure that sounds okay to me

I have never had an eternal rival and nemesis more than this year in this contest


the best part is when you realize I'm saying Undertale has the 60%
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Votals are really slowing down now. Beating Link/Draven will be hard. The great high votal classic matches of 2002/3 are out of reach.
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We get even higher votals in later matches, especially if Melee v Undertale happens.
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People are assuming too strongly that the Pokemon rallies had huge backfire. I mean that may well be the case, the trends seem to indicate that. But we don't know. I think not even Allen would be able to figure that out with his logs.

What happened may have been something else. This is really too complex for us to know.

Anyway, the problem for Zelda is...drones!

The irony!

The backfire rate for Undertale rallies hasn't seemed to really vary that much the past couple rounds. UT's opponent seems not to matter so much.

The banner should help, but the raw net votes OoT gets from natural strength won't really be *that* much higher than an RBY or Melee or SMW. A few thousand maybe?

It just comes down to the size of the rally, the drone army. And if OoT can counter-rally.

A counter-rally that works would be huge. Just a few thousand votes net would be a big deal. But while Zelda fans will rally very hard, their success is not guaranteed.

I always emphasize how hard rallies are to predict. Pokemon fans tried real hard to rally today without much success (it seems). And Pokemon historically has been one of the top rally forces we have.

Zelda's success isn't guaranteed either. As I said before, Link vs. Draven was a unique match.
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Good thing ME3's #2 spot in the X-Stats is safe now.
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The site banner should help out OoT because it would be bringing in a lot of extra voters (generally people visiting the site for the first time) who know nothing about Undertale's path to the finals. Those voters should be expected to vote for OoT over Undertale at a higher split than the normal GameFAQs voters who have followed the contest pretty closely.
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