shane15 posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
Next round is going to be soooo bad. Melee rallying over FF7. Undertale destroying SM64. OoT vs another Zelda game. The only interest will be the final match. Are there still people who think rallies make the contest more interesting?


It's gotten to the point where you either have Zelda win or a random game rallied to victory. Maybe it's because i'm way older now but these things just aren't as good as they were 10 years ago.


I never post on this board and I haven't been following 10 years but I have for a long time now and I'm kinda sad with how this has turned out. I feel for the guys who have followed the contests and posted on the board since day 1. This will be the last contest I watch closely because there is now no consistency to the results so in my mind no point in bothering to predict the outcome. I feel like if Undertale never happened we could have had a very exciting top half of the bracket. Now I have to pretend to be shocked when Undertale comes from behind to win everytime. John Cena is my most hated wrestler and Undertale is John Cena.
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Lopen posted...
I like how Undertale won't slow down here despite it having slowed down massively against SMW at this time.

Like do Tumblr people actually check the results before voting? You'd think it'd either consistently slow down or it wouldn't.

"As needed" as I said.


No, but they check after voting and may not continue the rallying chain if Undertale is winning by enough.


Alright so where are these chains exactly. If it worked like this rather than like, the big hubs doing almost all the work, you'd think you'd see em more, right? Like I don't see a particularly widesweeping presence on Tumblr-- am I just looking in the wrong places?
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I'm surprised so many people have a lack of respect for RBY. Is it the best Pokemon game? No. But it started it all and was really influential. I'm confused by it.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Anyone still thinking Melee can win a rally war against this?

It can, yes.

I'd pick UT but it does have a chance for sure.

Again people counting out FF7 too much though...
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I will never ever understand why Pokemon fans hate RBY while everyone else loves it.
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shane15 posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
Next round is going to be soooo bad. Melee rallying over FF7. Undertale destroying SM64. OoT vs another Zelda game. The only interest will be the final match. Are there still people who think rallies make the contest more interesting?


It's gotten to the point where you either have Zelda win or a random game rallied to victory. Maybe it's because i'm way older now but these things just aren't as good as they were 10 years ago.


Zelda always won but Zelda is at least incredibly popular and felt legitimate and the matches along the way were fun.

Now we have games your average gamer hasn't even heard of utterly obliterating the bracket
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12/8/2015 4:10:21 PM#409
That tweet was posted an hour ago and got no traction relative to its follower count.
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Karma Hunter posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Melee


False hope is still hope for my bracket


it's okay Undertale is killing my bracket today

just as planned
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I will never ever understand why Pokemon fans hate RBY while everyone else loves it.


Most people are probably like me and only ever played the first one.
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As I said in another thread, some people are just bitter a lot of fans look fondly at Gen 1 moreso than the others.
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AndrewB34 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bulbagarden/status/674364747895062528?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The replies to that Tweet so far:

"nahhhhh there's no way Pokemon Red Blue or Yellow are better than Undertale, I'm surprised they even beat SMB 3"
"@Bulbagarden sorry, undertale got my vote :P"
"@Bulbagarden meh, Gen 2 is way better."
"@Bulbagarden Undertale's way better than R/B/Y though, maybe if it was a different gen.."

In case anybody wanted to know why the Pokémon fanbase is unreliable. Way too divided.
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Well I tweeted both members of The Dex and Natewantstobattle about the poll but I'm guessing nothing happens, especially since both like Undertale as well :/
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AndrewB34 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bulbagarden/status/674364747895062528?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


Looking into that a bit more, the tweet was posted at 6:07 PM EST, just shortly before Pokemon's vote intake spiked up. I originally thought the vote spike for Pokemon was caused by the backfire rate associated when Undertale's vote intake also spiked on the 6:10 PM EST.
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creativename posted...
Again people counting out FF7 too much though...


It's impossible to rally for FFVII and incredibly easy to rally against. It's going to have to overcome TWO rallies at once to win next round.

FFVII beating Melee would be the miracle of the contest, which would only be topped if it could beat Undertale the round after.
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yeah this contest is done, only thing is if some bizarre rally spillover (Undertale->FF7 and Melee->SM64) causes FF7 and SM64 to both win, somehow
AndrewB34 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bulbagarden/status/674364747895062528?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


>those comments

Gen 1 wasn't the best idea headed into this match, huh.
It's cool to see Bulbagarden tweet.

It's sad to see it basically not mattering.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I will never ever understand why Pokemon fans hate RBY while everyone else loves it.


Pokemon has a terrible, self-divided fanbase. I mean, the top voted comment on the reddit rally thread was that gen 1 was not very good.
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If Melee beats Undertale, I'm cool.

If FF7 beats Undertale, I'm kinda cool (I don't want it to win, but it gets much more guff than OoT does).

But if it makes it to OoT, it needs to beat OoT.
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2Dover3D posted...
well this contest is over. If RBY couldn't beat it then nothing will. The momentum will be too great to stop now


I've been saying from the beginning of undertale's run that OoT with a site banner and Zelda fans rallying is a completely different beast, at least against outside sites. Pokemon was expected to do well today because of backfire plus some rallies. But we were wrong about that because backfire has been less than expected, and rallies have not worked because RBY is not unequivocally loved by the greater Pokemon fanbase.

OoT would not have better backfire, I don't think. But GameFAQs will have more strength for the match AND you can bet that Zelda will rally the troops as well as anyone else. The single caveat is that Tumblr trends make it harder to rally against because it doesn't take the lead until late in the match (I.e. you can't draw people in by saying OoT is losing).
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FF7 is irrelevant because it's going to get killed by a cross between Melee and SM64 rallying (unless it's for some reason a huge favorite compared to Melee with the Undertale crowd, which I highly doubt).
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nopenopenopenop posted...
AndrewB34 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bulbagarden/status/674364747895062528?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


>those comments

Gen 1 wasn't the best idea headed into this match, huh.


None of the other gens (except probably GSC) would even be close right now.
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Julian_Caesar posted...
OoT would not have better backfire, I don't think. But GameFAQs will have more strength for the match AND you can bet that Zelda will rally the troops as well as anyone else. The single caveat is that Tumblr trends make it harder to rally against because it doesn't take the lead until late in the match (I.e. you can't draw people in by saying OoT is losing).


CT looked OoT strength this year and it lost to Melee rallies. OoT has no chance against Tumblr
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LeonhartFour posted...
creativename posted...
Again people counting out FF7 too much though...


It's impossible to rally for FFVII and incredibly easy to rally against. It's going to have to overcome TWO rallies at once to win next round.

FFVII beating Melee would be the miracle of the contest, which would only be topped if it could beat Undertale the round after.

I'm not saying it's necessarily probable. I'm saying it's very far from impossible.

The Melee rally vs. CT may itself have been a miracle. The Reddit post gathered points very quickly. Perhaps it was just lucky.
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Give it another 2-3 hours for it to start slowing down, Lopen. This surge got started later than the one against SMW.
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backinblack167 posted...
nopenopenopenop posted...
AndrewB34 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bulbagarden/status/674364747895062528?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


>those comments

Gen 1 wasn't the best idea headed into this match, huh.


None of the other gens (except probably GSC) would even be close right now.


Yeah, GSC was the best shot. And an untapped factor to GSC also would've been Iwata's involvement in it, if people wanted to go the sympathy route.

Too bad Melee put a halt to that early on.
Sucks we can't ever get 2 fanbases to rally against each other in these things.
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Undertale hasn't had a sub-60 update since the beginning of the previous hour.
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So, how much does Undertale win by, 3000-5000 maybe?
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18:00 - 61.20 (5665)
19:00 - 64.87 (6391)

Undertale making an example out of this game to any who dare oppose it.
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12/8/2015 4:18:32 PM#434
shane15 posted...
Sucks we can't ever get 2 fanbases to rally against each other in these things.


We did this match, just not at the same time.
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2Dover3D posted...
Julian_Caesar posted...
OoT would not have better backfire, I don't think. But GameFAQs will have more strength for the match AND you can bet that Zelda will rally the troops as well as anyone else. The single caveat is that Tumblr trends make it harder to rally against because it doesn't take the lead until late in the match (I.e. you can't draw people in by saying OoT is losing).


CT looked OoT strength this year and it lost to Melee rallies. OoT has no chance against Tumblr


I'm not going to argue with you about it, if you dont understand the difference between rallying against CT and rallying against OoT. Just trust me, they are on different levels. CT would have a chance against OoT in a straight GameFAQs match; as soon as any other site got involved it would be game over for CT.
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ctesjbuvf posted...
It's cool to see Bulbagarden tweet.

It's sad to see it basically not mattering.

Twitter really seems a weak place to rally.

I'm confused by the undertale_bot thing. Allen said it got a lot of votes, but it's Twitter metrics are very weak. Yet today's rally turned just about when it posted.

There's no discernable reason for that account to matter, but Allen said it does, and the timing today was when UT hulked up.
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creativename posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
It's cool to see Bulbagarden tweet.

It's sad to see it basically not mattering.

Twitter really seems a weak place to rally.

I'm confused by the undertale_bot thing. Allen said it got a lot of votes, but it's Twitter metrics are very weak. Yet today's rally turned just about when it posted.

There's no discernable reason for that account to matter, but Allen said it does, and the timing today was when UT hulled up.


If it's a bot, couldn't it be that at the same time as posting it on Twitter, it's posting it elsewhere ?
Followers are only one part of twitter metrics I think. Sensitivity is another. People who follow that Undertale thingy on twitter seem more inclined to pay attention - and even more importantly, retweet - than those who follow Bulbapedia or w/e, most likely due to recency.
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Bacon also said that reddit was the majority of the bonus votes for Undertale rather than Tumblr

Basically him making stuff up to explain the votes rather than having actually looked into it makes a lot more sense
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Pokemon rally down to 11th. That subreddit's no repost rule is probably going to be the thing that stopped RBY from having a chance; if the rally was at the top all day RBY could have won.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Pokemon rally down to 11th. That subreddit's no repost rule is probably going to be the thing that stopped RBY from having a chance; if the rally was at the top all day RBY could have won.


Doubt it. Most of the people in that thread complained about RBY
LordoftheMorons posted...
Pokemon rally down to 11th. That subreddit's no repost rule is probably going to be the thing that stopped RBY from having a chance; if the rally was at the top all day RBY could have won.


Do people on Reddit just not read below like the 5th topic or something
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2Dover3D posted...

CT looked OoT strength this year and it lost to Melee rallies. OoT has no chance against Tumblr


CT has nowhere near the rally potential, the size, dedication, or backfire rate (whatever you want to say that is) of Ocarina of Time. CT is a GameFAQs game, to be sure; Ocarina of Time is everywhere.
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ZFS posted...
2Dover3D posted...

CT looked OoT strength this year and it lost to Melee rallies. OoT has no chance against Tumblr


CT has nowhere near the rally potential, the size, dedication, or backfire rate (whatever you want to say that is) of Ocarina of Time. CT is a GameFAQs game, to be sure; Ocarina of Time is everywhere.


Zelda is also known as that series that always wins on Gamefaqs, so it can make it easier to rally against to piss off Gamefaqs.
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Melee got 37k against CT. Throw in 15k for winning on gfaqs 65-35 instead of losing 61-39. Then add 4k net for a 25% boost to natural gfaqs voters with a site banner. Add 8k for Undertale backfire. Then subtract 5k net for a successful Pokemon rally today. That puts us at 57k. UT will probably finish higher than that today, and it will also go a little higher from a lower backfire rate against Melee.

Good. I want to see OOT vs. UT.
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AndrewB34 posted...
Doubt it. Most of the people in that thread complained about RBY

I guess that + repost fatigue may have stopped a second rally from rising up, but it was definitely giving Pokemon pretty huge gains. I think the anti-gen 1 people are a vocal minority.
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now it's all down to Melee, and I bet you Melee obsessives can't do any better than this

heck even if you rally on reddit

and post it on smashboards

and have smashboards tweet it

and get all your top players to tweet it

and rally every single nook and cranny you can, even if official stuff rallies, it won't stand a chance

Go on, just try to do all that, I dare you
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shane15 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Pokemon rally down to 11th. That subreddit's no repost rule is probably going to be the thing that stopped RBY from having a chance; if the rally was at the top all day RBY could have won.


Do people on Reddit just not read below like the 5th topic or something


Highly voted posts can end up on a user's front page, so they'll see it even if they don't visit the subreddit itself if they're subscribed. As threads fall off, this is less likely.
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AndrewB34 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Pokemon rally down to 11th. That subreddit's no repost rule is probably going to be the thing that stopped RBY from having a chance; if the rally was at the top all day RBY could have won.


Doubt it. Most of the people in that thread complained about RBY


please delete that thread and make a new one

at this point that one is irrelevant so we lose nothing anyways
Melee is in a weird spot.

I promise you it leaked a lot of it's rallied votes to CT. It will do the same to FFVII. If it beats FFVII though it will be at full strength for undertale, and will get probably over 95% of it's rallied votes. It still has some weapons left, like getting mango to tweet(which should be easy, just donate to his stream and he'll do it lol) which will be a huge surge of votes over any other person because mangos fanbase is fanatical. Word of melee losing to undertale will shock a lot of smashers that didn't vote because they thought CT was better as well(not even leaked votes, just a lot of people didn't vote because they love CT and melee, like prog).

I have no idea if it'll beat FFVII, but it will be much much stronger if it's against undertale, especially on the weekend. Could be interesting.
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