GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1238
CT
was heading towards FFX territory. The most we could say is that Chrono
Trigger would have finished with a higher percent than what it had
pre-rally. --- BGE3: Today's Matches FFX > SSBM, FFVII > FFVI Points 163/192 |
The only reason FF7 is beating FF6 is because more people started with FF7. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 |
Hey if it's any consolation this FFVI blowout can be used to project some pretty preposterous FFVII beatdowns of OoT --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
Karma Hunter posted... CT was wrecking SSBM's face with updates well in excess of 60/40 before the rally finally got traction... in SSBM's best time frame. Easily exceeds 60/40 in a normal match... and while I didn't buy it before, I'd say SSBM is right around FFX's level naturally, and would have got a similar percentage by the end of the match after its joke trends died off. KH2 > FFX never really made a whole lot of sense. feels good to be validated --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
charmander6000 posted... CT was heading towards FFX territory. The most we could say is that Chrono Trigger would have finished with a higher percent than what it had pre-rally. Yeah I think it would have finished around 62%. The worst part is, CT/Undertale wouldn't have happened until the semifinals, with a site banner the natural strength could have gone up. Probably not enough to win but enough to make it a close fight. --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
Karma Hunter posted... Hey if it's any consolation this FFVI blowout can be used to project some pretty preposterous FFVII beatdowns of OoT It can! Don't know how much I'd trust it, with the rally seemingly favoring FFVII and there's probably at least a small amount of SFF mixed in there. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Also
do really people believe that without rally CT would win with more than
60%? With that numbers it would be the strongest game in the bracket. --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
...you think. --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
Safer_777 posted... Also do really people believe that without rally CT would win with more than 60%? With that numbers it would be the strongest game in the bracket. spoilers it's been acting like the strongest game in the bracket all contest long before the rally kicked in --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
With
zero outside influence it's probably around 61%. With marginal rallying
that you can count on regardless of circumstance, probably sub 60. It
has rallying in almost every match so you need to count that. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Safer_777 posted... Also do really people believe that without rally CT would win with more than 60%? With that numbers it would be the strongest game in the bracket. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1662-tournament-semifinal-final-fantasy-vii-vs-super-smash-bros --- Hello, I'm Chris! https://media.giphy.com/media/2ZtIpjwFFjLHLNREpCU/giphy.gif |
FF7's number is inflated here, but I think it could've easily finished with 56-57%. I ran some numbers last night and if you set FF9=RE4 and WW=MM, that projects it to beat OoT fairly handily! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
SSBM
dropped from 60% on KH2 at the one hour mark to 55% by the end of the
match. It is, quite literally, a joke game, which is why it gets that
moniker. There's no way in hell it breaks 40% on CT without significant
rallying. --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... With zero outside influence it's probably around 61%. With marginal rallying that you can count on regardless of circumstance, probably sub 60. It has rallying in almost every match so you need to count that. Yes, the kind of stuff that happens every match is part of a game's natural strength, and CT had already blown past 60% in what is traditionally Melee's best time of the match by far. Anyone trying to rationalize that Melee wasn't heading toward an FFX-esque beatdown is either in denial or doesn't understand Melee's trends. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
People
are going to downplay just how badly Chrono Trigger was tearing into
Melee before the rally kicked in, but it was going to be brutal. All
Melee does is fall off after the first hour and it was already falling
off DURING the first hour. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
don't see why FFVII > OoT is that crazy at this point, considering
the boost it's gotten. Of course, it's likely neither is the strongest
game in the contest. Likely the match up won't happen when either OoT
and/or FFVII is taken down by someone else in a rally. --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
KamikazePotato posted... I ran some numbers last night and if you set FF9=RE4 and WW=MM, that projects it to beat OoT fairly handily! ExThaNemesis likes this --- "I'll admit that I made one or two sarcastic remarks in this topic, but in all serious I akin Undertale to fascism." -ArgaiRonso |
The Mana Sword posted... FF9=RE4 That's pretty much what it's looking like. RE4>=KH2, FF9>=KH1, ect. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Also
I really hope we at least get the same amount of time before the rally
next round to see how FFVII would've stacked up against CT. Looks like no way in hell it would've won, but I think it would've been a close match. 52-48 or so. --- "I'll admit that I made one or two sarcastic remarks in this topic, but in all serious I akin Undertale to fascism." -ArgaiRonso |
I'd be much more okay with this result if it didn't deny us an FFVII/CT match |
ExThaNemesis posted... Also I really hope we at least get the same amount of time before the rally next round to see how FFVII would've stacked up against CT. I dunno. CT and FF7 have too much fan overlap IMO to use Melee as an accurate comparison. And I honestly have no idea who would get SFF advantage on GameFAQs right now considering the circumstances. --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
If
the rally starts early like it did this time, it probably won't tell us
much. FFVII's board vote is traditionally one of the worst out there. I
doubt FFVII could push 60% on Melee within the first 30 minutes even if
it got there by the end of the match. Could be wrong though! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Stronger
games tend to win SFF matchups. See: FFVII/FFVI. If we can peg how well
FFVII is doing on Melee at the beginning before any rallies get
significant traction, we can probably estimate how well CT would be
doing on FFVII... ...at the beginning of the match, at least. CT in the first hour is better than FFVII in the first hour, so some speculative projections will still be needed. --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
Ooh, the better game came back after an early deficit. I love how often that is happening this contest. :) --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
Karma Hunter posted... Hey if it's any consolation this FFVI blowout can be used to project some pretty preposterous FFVII beatdowns of OoT Oh I see it continues --- satoru iwata |
Acerac posted... Ooh, the better game came back after an early deficit. Yeah, like when, uh... DKC2 beat Xenoblade and ME2 beat Starcraft...? I think that's all I got. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Nanis23 posted... So can we finally admit that Pokemon is the last chance to stop Undertale and vote for Pokemon? thanks ^_^ Naw I'd rather vote for the better game. RBY are bad games yo. Take off them nostalgia glasses. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
ZFS posted... Karma Hunter posted...Hey if it's any consolation this FFVI blowout can be used to project some pretty preposterous FFVII beatdowns of OoT This isn't even me trying there isn't any projection you can use with FFIX that makes OoT look good Vivi did this --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
ExThaNemesis posted... Also I really hope we at least get the same amount of time before the rally next round to see how FFVII would've stacked up against CT. You really think ff7 would have lost to ct? --- Get the X out. Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it. |
LeonhartFour posted... Acerac posted...Ooh, the better game came back after an early deficit. Are you implying that Fallout 3 is anything but trash? If so I thoroughly disagree. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
Karma Hunter posted... there isn't any projection you can use with FFIX that makes OoT look good Vivi did this I thought we established ZPF a week ago --- satoru iwata |
I've never played Fallout 3, so I have no opinion about that game one way or the other. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
You really think ff7 would have lost to ct? It was looking like it. --- BGE3: Today's Matches FFX > SSBM, FFVII > FFVI Points 163/192 |
LeonhartFour posted... I've never played Fallout 3, so I have no opinion about that game one way or the other. As a fan of the Fallout series, I can promise you that Undertale did the world a favor there. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
ZFS posted... Karma Hunter posted...there isn't any projection you can use with FFIX that makes OoT look good Vivi did this Actually if I use Suikoden II, OoT still loses --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
Oh hey KARMA HUNTER stats don't mean anything people are just underdog voting until the final --- satoru iwata |
My bracket is literally counting on that --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
Acerac posted... LeonhartFour posted...I've never played Fallout 3, so I have no opinion about that game one way or the other. Wow easiest ignore ever --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg |
Karma Hunter posted... CT was wrecking SSBM's face with updates well in excess of 60/40 before the rally finally got traction... in SSBM's best time frame. Easily exceeds 60/40 in a normal match... and while I didn't buy it before, I'd say SSBM is right around FFX's level naturally, and would have got a similar percentage by the end of the match after its joke trends died off. KH2 > FFX never really made a whole lot of sense. One: FFX has never been able to beat ssbm 1v1. And for two, the case can be made that rallies are a part of natural strength. Hard to quantify with math, but just discounting it makes no sense either. That's the other reason FFX can't win. This is the game that couldn't rally past majoras mask, and I can't imagine anyone taking majora > melee. Only the stats topic could somehow turn this into "hey FFX can still beat melee guys". Never has been true. Never will be true. --- Get the X out. Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it. |
CT
wasn't blowing past 60%. Definitely wasn't gonna hit 65%. Let's not
pretend CT didn't have bandwagon board support too and typically drops a
couple % in a match. Melees was still better yes so CT was due to rise.
But it already rose 4% and was already slowing down 20 minutes in at
60%. I was watching the reddit rally the whole opening half hour and it
didn't have any steam until about 25 minutes in, and if the rally stayed
small it would have let melee hold ground overnight. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
CT has easily been the most impressive in the contest relative to where people thought it was. Obviously discounting rallies I'm actually surprised CT hasnt kicked it into its traditional close match 'Is it cheating or not?' mode. No mass Frogs Theme posts this contest is guess |
Every fallout 2 fan on the planet despises 3 and 4. It's kind of hilarious. --- Get the X out. Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it. |
Only 769 extra votes that hour, but CT loses 100 votes. Now the ASV, or what's left of it. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... CT wasn't blowing past 60%. Definitely wasn't gonna hit 65%. Let's not pretend CT didn't have bandwagon board support too and typically drops a couple % in a match. Melees was still better yes so CT was due to rise. But it already rose 4% and was already slowing down 20 minutes in at 60%. I was watching the reddit rally the whole opening half hour and it didn't have any steam until about 25 minutes in, and if the rally stayed small it would have let melee hold ground overnight. So, denial it is then. --- Goddamn Chrono Trigger |
There is no way to prove it either way. --- Get the X out. Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it. |
CT
not matching what it got on FFX is fine to believe (it probably is the
likely scenario), but thinking CT would finish below what it had against
Melee pre-rally is pretty much denial at this point. Melee would have
died overnight before any morning vote would have given it a small
boost. --- BGE3: Today's Matches FFX > SSBM, FFVII > FFVI Points 163/192 |
Wait
people are actually denying CT would break 60% when it was already
doing that in Melees best timeframe? Are we just ignoring all previously
established trends? If there's no rally then CT is going up in % not
down. Maybe not 65% but 62-63% is easily believable. |
wait I figured it out here you go ZFS Hearthstone pulled 29% on FFX OoT is saved. --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png (edited 12/7/2015 12:06:05 PM)report |
I think 61-62% is most likely given how it was going. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
