xp1337 posted...
again i keep seeing accusations that "oh if the rally was the other way you'd be happy" but no, no i wouldn't. And honestly I keep seeing people state the same, and not anyone going, "Yeah, you're right."

Certainly not from the people opposed to rallies in this topic.


It's an easy narrative to push to make the other side look bad. Shouldn't be too surprising to see this card played a lot!

we're all anti-fun after all
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Also this match is over.
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12/7/2015 10:21:38 AM#153
Undertale's going to pull in at least 30% of the Gamefaqs vote I think. If votals go up to 60k, and it splits 70/30, that would give Melee a lead of 24k. Based on today, let's say Melee can rally 25k votes, which split 90/10 for Melee, and Undertale rallies 60k votes, which split 80/20 for UT. Then....Melee gains 20k from rallying for a total lead of 44k......and Undertale makes up 36k from its rallying, for an 8000 vote Melee win.

Even if we move Undertale up to an 80k rally (and it's only done a little north of 50k so far), that only gives UT a win by 4000. So yeah, the numbers seem to work out fairly well for Melee.
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I mean it'd be great to see Ocarina of Time shut down Melee and show it what a real best game ever looks like but Undertale or Pokemon will make quick work of it long before that!
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So can we finally admit that Pokemon is the last chance to stop Undertale and vote for Pokemon? thanks ^_^
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12/7/2015 10:23:07 AM#156
But yes, the tricky thing is, if Undertale faces Melee then it already got past RBY, which means it'll have already improved its game a lot!
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I have long said voting for Pokemon might even be worse than Undertale!
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red sox 777 posted...
Undertale's going to pull in at least 30% of the Gamefaqs vote I think.


Wtf are you talking about. It couldn't even get that against Mass Effect 3.
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Poll5253 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
SMW and SSBM get about the same amount of natural votes against Undertale. SMW gets more, actually, because it's a significantly stronger game on base strength. That leaves rallying, which SSBM can do better than SMW, but there is always some backfire, and indeed I'd expect Undertale to actually get more backfire votes than CT due to the composition of the Smashers.

And again, this is an Undertale that has presumably gotten past RBY. Of course SSBM will be dead in the water in that scenario.


Melee will kill Undertale when Undertale faces SM64


Oh, please, I'd like to see them have that much spillover. No chance, I don't care how much you rally oh my where did that sig of mine come from
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it would legitimately be hilarious for Melee to come out of this half, only for OoT to just waste it.

he wins again
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12/7/2015 10:24:16 AM#161

Wtf are you talking about. It couldn't even get that against Mass Effect 3.


It's gotten stronger each round. It had 30% on SMW before the rallying started.
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Karma Hunter posted...
SMW and SSBM get about the same amount of natural votes against Undertale. SMW gets more, actually, because it's a significantly stronger game on base strength. That leaves rallying, which SSBM can do better than SMW, but there is always some backfire, and indeed I'd expect Undertale to actually get more backfire votes than CT due to the composition of the Smashers.

And again, this is an Undertale that has presumably gotten past RBY. Of course SSBM will be dead in the water in that scenario.


did you miss the top post on reddit, it's going to go up against Undertale and avenge Mario World /s
OoT > Melee final would be good for reasons

I'm sure Karma Hunter can agree
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LordOfDabu posted...
The real issue with the US is that they grow up in a culture where shooting is seen as the solution to problems.

We bomb countries when a problem escalates. Our police shoot when a problem escalates. Shooting "bad guys" is often seen in movies/games.

It's not surprising when people have a problem the first thing they think of is getting a gun and shooting.


This take is so hot I just burned my fingers.
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He won it in the year of the draggy crow
Alright phew changed back to normal
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xp1337 posted...
it would legitimately be hilarious for Melee to come out of this half, only for OoT to just waste it.

he wins again


A true hero
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I am willing to push Karma Hunter and others to bracket victory to see Ocarina of Time do what it should do
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Man this match could even have the slightest 1% of hope if CT was rallyable, like, anywhere on the entire internet besides GameFAQs which never ceases to amuse me
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
So much hate.

Pokemon is one of the best multiplayer strategy games ever made.

Undertale is the GotY of 2015.

They both deserve to get to the final 8, no matter what your contest hystory gospel says.


I can name at least 7 games this year that I have played that are better than Undertale

MGSV
Super Mario Maker
Starcraft 2 LotV
Rocket League
GTAV
Axiom Verge
Ori and the Blind Forest
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1
lol xstats
Just need to rally the DBZ fans
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http://www.twitch.tv/lordofdabu
In better news, FFVII is now at 63.08% on Wind Waker!

that means Wind Waker is only expected to beat Smash 4 with 53%
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"The only reason why I've even heard of Chrono Trigger is, funnily enough, previous gfaqs tournaments."

I think this is my favorite offsite quote about the contest.
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Rally slowing down.

Let's see what happens with the asv.
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If FF 7 can reach top 4 it will be something at least. But if it goes there and loses with more than 60%...I don't know.
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124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest!
Wasnt there like a relatively active(?) Chrono community responsible for some fanhacks that square C&D bombed? I dont remember what its called or if it actually has some sort of forum. Anyway, the best hope CT has for a rally is if you guys tried to rally it in some square or FF sites. It could have been feasible to rally it alongside a FF game... If the other battle wasnt already a FF showdown.
(edited 12/7/2015 10:47:50 AM)report
Janus5k posted...
kind of a poor decision I think - if it has the rallying power that Hylian says, it would best be saved for Pokemon/Undertale and not a match it's already winning. <_<


Well, this power is dwindled because the writer who put the article up was looking for news, and not someone trying to rally for SSBM. He didn't post this on twitter/fb, which is where most of the smashboards rally would come from as they have 40K and 60K followers respectively.

Just smashboards frontpage alone isn't nearly the strength of it's twitter/fb also posting it, though I imagine it's pulling in several hundred votes throughout the day.

Also, I didn't post the article, one of our writers did. He wasn't "saving it" for undertale because I doubt he knows the situation lol and simply was doing a news post before SSBM possibly went out of the competition.

And yeah, this won't be posted on smashboards front page more than once.
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Eh, that has some validity to it, but I'd go a step further. If CT has a chance today it's probably to rally for the FFVII/FFVI showdown and see if the spillover favors CT enough for it to edge ahead.
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Chrono won't give up, gotta give him credit.
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(edited 12/7/2015 10:51:19 AM)report
Also, I totally called leffen's attitude towards this:

https://twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/673900804257005568

lmao
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Mario always screws Crono with results that are sketchy.
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Lynx_7 posted...
Wasnt there like a relatively active(?) Chrono community responsible for some fanhacks that square C&D bombed? I dont remember what its called or if it actually has some sort of forum. Anyway, the best hope CT has for a rally is if you guys tried to rally it in some square or FF sites. It could have been feasible to rally it alongside a FF game... If the other battle wasnt already a FF showdown.


Are the actually any reasonably active Square/FF-dedicated sites left at this point?
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So we just have to accept that contests are like this from now on?

To be fair they were probably meant to be, or at least it was never outside the realm of possibility.
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Next contest we should rally eithe for CATS if it is a character contest.
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124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest!
I keep on wondering how come Life is Strange didn't get a rally
It's called tumblr : The Game for a reason..!
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12/7/2015 11:02:14 AM#185
2 PM

Chrono Trigger by the Hour:

1:00 | 55.22% | +669
2:00 | 44.25% | -583
3:00 | 44.15% | -435
4:00 | 46.12% | -208
5:00 | 48.94% | -68
6:00 | 52.14% | +87
7:00 | 51.26% | +72
8:00 | 51.89% | +115
9:00 | 50.04% | +3
10:00 | 49.44% | -42
11:00 | 46.15% | -288
12:00 | 50.03% | +2
13:00 | 46.83% | -230
14:00 | 50.87% | +54

OOT/FFIX - 34238
CT/SSBM - 49366

Votes above OOT/FFIX: 15128

Estimated Rallied Votes by Hour:

1:00 | 903
2:00 | 1797
3:00 | 1221
4:00 | 807
5:00 | 553
6:00 | 500
7:00 | 694
8:00 | 855
9:00 | 985
10:00 | 1254
11:00 | 1367
12:00 | 1658
13:00 | 1491
14:00 | 1030

There was a major dropoff in the rally that hour. Of course, there was also a smaller dropoff in Gamefaqs natural votes, so it's hard for CT to capitalize too well on it.
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We should nominate The Patriots next character battle as an anti-rallying statement.
The internet is too uncontrolled!
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CT can still win this, I think. It's just not looking good.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Also it's good to see at least that my correlation between supporting rallying and poster quality continues to stand at 1:1
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Safer_777 posted...
Next contest we should rally eithe for CATS if it is a character contest.


Yes
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"This is all we have... when we die.."
That 94-vote update for CT is not a good sign. Someone needs to find somewhere strong to rally or this is over.
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Yeah! Let's rally, chums!!

(it's, uh, been over for awhile <.<)
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Goddamn Chrono Trigger
This has been over since last night.
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Nanis23 posted...
I keep on wondering how come Life is Strange didn't get a rally
It's called tumblr : The Game for a reason..!


It did get a sizable boost from Undertale spillover anyways. Undertale fans are more likely to want to support their game on a popularity poll.

Either way this rallying makes me believe Undertale will lose to Melee even with the rally muscle it flexed against SMW unless Austin/Vinny decide to hype it for some dumb reason. It's bound to start getting anti-votes like Draven once RBY/SM64 lose.
Honestly, how much do we think CT is worth on Melee 'naturally'? I understand it was at 60% near the start of the poll... Melee I know has a good board vote but I feel like Chrono Trigger's would be better in this situation.

I would go with 57% for CT, and lol FFX.
55-45 makes sense.
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CT was wrecking SSBM's face with updates well in excess of 60/40 before the rally finally got traction... in SSBM's best time frame. Easily exceeds 60/40 in a normal match... and while I didn't buy it before, I'd say SSBM is right around FFX's level naturally, and would have got a similar percentage by the end of the match after its joke trends died off. KH2 > FFX never really made a whole lot of sense.
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Goddamn Chrono Trigger
Like, anything sub-60 is just stupid in a normal match if you know anything about SSBM's trends. Just look at the KH2 match if you don't believe me.
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Goddamn Chrono Trigger
CT gets 63% in a normal match. I'm pretty confident in that.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
If only we could rally 1000 votes for CT...
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124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest!
74%

my dream was prophetic

why i had a dream where i voted for CT and visited the stats topic to discuss how CT was putting up that kind of number is another matter entirely
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