GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1238
This is for the old, pushed out of these battles and never seen again. This is for the new, doomed to fight and lose. This is for Magus, fallen from grace. This is for Bowser, whose genius is lost upon such as these. This is for Kirby and Ness, who once were top tier long ago. This is for Cloud, in memory of what was. This is for the Hero of Time, for the 90 minutes lost. This is for all who have suffered and lost. Never give up, never surrender. Go forth with DETERMINATION. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~ http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://www.thengamer.com/ http://thengamer.com/xstats ~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame ~*Character Contest Histories*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the Match Pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~ https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0 ~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense. Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Play CT! --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
Ulti brought up good stats in another topic. Mario/cloud had like 40k more votes than most of the other top matches in the 2002 contest. Nobody thought that was illegitimate. I literally came to this board from a jurassic Park fansite because of that match. Rallying was just as huge if not bigger back then. Cloud would have slaughtered Mario if not for rallying. Now I'm totally with people who are annoyed that Tumblr is rallying fodder past heavyweights, but a legitimately strong gamefaqs game with a huge community that was predicted to make an impact and 14 year fandom? It's the exact same thing as "it's frikkin Mario." --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Melee sux sorry --- satoru iwata |
11 AM Chrono Trigger by the Hour: 1:00 | 55.22% | +669 2:00 | 44.25% | -583 3:00 | 44.15% | -435 4:00 | 46.12% | -208 5:00 | 48.94% | -68 6:00 | 52.14% | +87 7:00 | 51.26% | +72 8:00 | 51.89% | +115 9:00 | 50.04% | +3 10:00 | 49.44% | -42 11:00 | 46.15% | -288 OOT/FFIX - 27784 Undertale/SMW - 43916 CT/SSBM - 38632 Votes above OOT/FFIX: 10,948 Estimated Rallied Votes by Hour: 1:00 | 903 2:00 | 1797 3:00 | 1221 4:00 | 807 5:00 | 553 6:00 | 500 7:00 | 694 8:00 | 855 9:00 | 985 10:00 | 1254 11:00 | 1367 Melee is just blasting the poll right now. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Hmm, 25 vote CT cut out of the blue. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
CT spike right after the newest post on the Facebook group. This could get interesting. --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
That was also Melee's lowest intake on an update since 8:40. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Holy cow the Facebook group is working! --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
And now a 31 vote cut. Getting interesting! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
The
issue is that a rally on Facebook is probably less sustainable than the
reddit one. So Nick will probably need to make a few more posts. Reddit
should bring in steady votes throughout the day. Facebook brings in big
spikes that should go down after a bit. --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
Rally people on Twitter people! --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
That was CT's best update since 1:30 am. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
What's the Facebook Group and how many members/Likes does it have? |
TheOneAboveAll posted... Holy cow the Facebook group is working! But all rallies are bad guys. Unless they favor a game we're rooting for! --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
try posting comments on square's official facebook too that page is extremely active right now for obvious reasons. |
UltimaterializerX posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...Holy cow the Facebook group is working! That's kind of what I was trying to explain to this guy http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72952676 People want to be selective with rallies. You either hate all rallies or you love them all. |
The Facebook group is https://www.facebook.com/ChronoTriggerFans/?fref=nf and has almost 28K likes. --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
Rallying the elite-tier game is suddenly ok! --- My name is Monica Lewinsky, and I am here to collect the rent. |
UltimaterializerX posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...Holy cow the Facebook group is working! I'm not inherently against rallies. 4chan rallies were always annoying but they never accomplished anything too screwy so we never really cared. The board consensus was pro- L-block, IIRC. LOL kind of soured us all on reddit, though. Besides, there's a difference between starting a rally and using a rally to counter a rally, no? --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
OOT/FFIX from 11:00 to 11:15 - 587 Undertale/SMW from 11:00 to 11:15 - 1364 CT/SSBM from 11:00 to 11:15 - 1035 Now that CT has gotten in the game, CT/SSBM are rallying about 60% as much as Undertale/SMW. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
I'm rooting for CT. Not interested at all if it has to do it by counter-rallying. That said, I can understand it in the sense that it's "self-defense." But seeing two games try to see which can bring in the most outside votes? I'll pass. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Counterrallies have always been acceptable. Gotta fix the result to how it should be after all. --- satoru iwata |
Trend confirmed. CT to take the lead in 620 updates. |
So was that a one-time spike from the group? We shall see! --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
ZFS posted... Counterrallies have always been acceptable. Gotta fix the result to how it should be after all. I guess I'm a little less sour on it when it's a counter-rally for that reason, but it still kinda leaves me feeling conflicted. Like, it's addressing what I feel is the problem by just doubling down on more of it. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
The FB post just doubled in likes and shares in the last two minutes. I'm expecting a CT spike next update. --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
spooky96 posted... UltimaterializerX posted...TheOneAboveAll posted...Holy cow the Facebook group is working! I've been saying it from the start: rallies aren't bad as long as they are not god-tier and making all its matches a foregone conclusion. I said several times that the Undertale rally has potential to be fun because it's just big enough to make OoT a debatable match for it. Sucks that it may ruin a great CT-FFVII match due to spillover, which is my only gripe. Also, while Tumblr has been enjoying the GameFAQs salt, they haven't been invading the board to any major degree, which is a good thing. Whereas Melee rallying smashboards to devastate the contest (Undertale included, don't kid yourself) is just not fun to me. --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
I like Rallies for weak games/characters myself. --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
This slow chisel won't be enough to fight the reddit rally. --- Raytan7585 is better than me at redditFAQs |
CT isn't gaining very fast, but this rally is stopping Melee from running away with this match. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
TheOneAboveAll posted... The FB post just doubled in likes and shares in the last two minutes. I'm expecting a CT spike next update. The cut increased by 400% :P --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
xp1337 posted...
I'm not big on one-sided rallies -- and most rallies are typically just that, despite how people like to try to rationalize and frame them -- but I can't say I haven't rooted for and hoped Link crushed Draven with his own outside rallies. I'm not gonna rush to Twitter, or a CT hub with 50 active users, but if it wins by rallies itself? That's just correcting the result! I mean CT was apparently crushing Melee with 60% beforehand. Melee people have had to scour the Internet for it to even be competitive! --- satoru iwata |
If
you're blindly rooting for CT, that's fine. Really. But be honest about
it. If CT had gotten a rally and was up 80-20, the reaction here would
be a lot more chipper than it is now. --- My name is Monica Lewinsky, and I am here to collect the rent. |
gearofages posted... If you're blindly rooting for CT, that's fine. Really. But be honest about it. If CT had gotten a rally and was up 80-20, the reaction here would be a lot more chipper than it is now. *raises hand* I'm blatantly rooting for CT! --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
Blargh, Melee spike. Over the past half hour: OOT/FF9 - 1149 CT/SSBM - 2071 UT/SMW - 2686 --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
gearofages posted... If you're blindly rooting for CT, that's fine. Really. But be honest about it. If CT had gotten a rally and was up 80-20, the reaction here would be a lot more chipper than it is now. If CT went from 60% to 80% you mean? ...Maybe. On one hand it wouldn't have flipped a result so there wouldn't be complaining about that. But it'd also likely mean everything was all over and CT would steamroll with it. I'd be displeased either way. again i keep seeing accusations that "oh if the rally was the other way you'd be happy" but no, no i wouldn't. And honestly I keep seeing people state the same, and not anyone going, "Yeah, you're right." Certainly not from the people opposed to rallies in this topic. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Is
there a technical reason the updater occasionally does that minus
thing? I'm sitting here thinking CT had the huge cut over 2 minutes but
it was just subtracting votes. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
for
the most part, i'm happy this is suddenly a dramatic match. i feel
like most undertale matches aren't that dramatic, though the final is
going to be and i'm thankful for that --- Remember, we are eternal - all this pain is an illusion http://i.imgur.com/Qs9x1gS.png |
34 vote cut, back in business. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
So that update was actually 171 - 137. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
Steiner posted... for the most part, i'm happy this is suddenly a dramatic match. i feel like most undertale matches aren't that dramatic, though the final is going to be and i'm thankful for that 3 biggest comebacks ever are pretty dramatic. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
Updates remaining: 149 Votes/Update needed to tie: 3.98 --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Well
the CT group and more people online on the Smash sites are coinciding, I
guess. This is going to be very close unless the ASV is definitive. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
Undertale
matches are super exciting, especially tomorrow's. Only thing is, I'm
going to be so drained after this one that I'm going to have to sleep
through most of the part where Pokemon builds a lead. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
UltimaterializerX posted... Steiner posted...for the most part, i'm happy this is suddenly a dramatic match. i feel like most undertale matches aren't that dramatic, though the final is going to be and i'm thankful for that Not really, no. --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
Undertale's
victories over Fallout 3 and SMW were never in doubt to anyone who paid
attention to what was happening. And the same is true for ME3 once
things went critical, but I'll grant the ME3 match if you really want
it. And the only way I think Undertale can lose tomorrow is if RBY pulls off its own successful rally. Which is a non-zero chance sure, but not exciting at all to predict or talk about. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
UltimaterializerX posted... Steiner posted...for the most part, i'm happy this is suddenly a dramatic match. i feel like most undertale matches aren't that dramatic, though the final is going to be and i'm thankful for that They have a couple of dramatic moments (arti in discord: "Undertale just cut 200". there goes contest) and i personally have fun on the board during the whole mess but I feel there isn't a lot of suspense once the big cuts hit! --- Remember, we are eternal - all this pain is an illusion http://i.imgur.com/Qs9x1gS.png |
Undertale's victories over Fallout 3 and SMW were never in doubt to anyone who paid attention to what was happening. And the same is true for ME3 once things went critical, but I'll grant the ME3 match if you really want it. Undertale started making big moves a lot earlier against FO3 than ME3, and earlier again against SMW, so it was really not certain, just likely that it would win. Besides, most of the excitement of those matches as gauging RBY and OOT's chances. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
On
the contrary, I think the board turns into an unreadable disaster when
these massive rallies happen which just makes everything worse. It
actually hasn't happened with this match, at least not so far, but it
does when Undertale has a match for whatever reason. I'm honestly wishing for the offseason again and I find that kind of sad given how much I personally wanted to see this contest. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
