I don't think you know Zelda fans very well if you think there will be no complaining. They literally tried spinning OoT's picture as a reason why the game wasn't breaking 70% or whatever was needed to make it look good.

They only reason why we never hear it is because LAW.
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charmander6000 posted...
I don't think you know Zelda fans very well if you think there will be no complaining. They literally tried spinning OoT's picture as a reason why the game wasn't breaking 70% or whatever was needed to make it look good.

They only reason why we never hear it is because LAW.


I don't mean Zelda fans, I mean CT fans that complain it's losing now because of Smash rally
Will they complain as well if they win the contest because of one?
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Well, if these results hold, I'll be 2 for 2 to start Round 4, that will be nice at least.
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I'd be unhappy if CT won the contest by rallying over OoT. I'd be unhappy if OoT won the contest by rallying over CT.

This narrative that everyone is okay with rallying when it happens in what is perceived as their favor really needs to be put to rest. Especially as it relates to this topic. I honestly don't see any real basis in fact but it gets trotted out to impugn the character of people who are opposed to rallies and it's getting tiring.

god it was bad enough when this nonsense only came up once a round.
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CT wins the last update to barely salvage a win for the 8-9 hour. Come on, DSV....please.....

9 AM

Chrono Trigger by the Hour:

1:00 | 55.22% | +669
2:00 | 44.25% | -583
3:00 | 44.15% | -435
4:00 | 46.12% | -208
5:00 | 48.94% | -68
6:00 | 52.14% | +87
7:00 | 51.26% | +72
8:00 | 51.89% | +115
9:00 | 50.04% | +3

OOT/FFIX - 22831
Undertale/SMW - 34081
CT/SSBM - 31158

Votes above OOT/FFIX: 8327

Estimated Rallied Votes by Hour:

1:00 | 903
2:00 | 1797
3:00 | 1221
4:00 | 807
5:00 | 553
6:00 | 500
7:00 | 694
8:00 | 855
9:00 | 985

This rally is relentless. It's hard for CT to do much cutting when the rally is swinging 600+ net per hour for Smash.
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Kinda surprised it's still at the top of the subreddit.

We got lucky in SC/ME2 when around 8 or 9 EST some super exciting series of matches happened and posts about them instantly rose to the top, knocking down the rally thread. If this one goes down past the fold it'll lose a decent amount of its draw.
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Now that update is what we need to see more of! CT has now cut off more than half of SSBM's lead.
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CT is doing so well to even hang here with the rally in full swing
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Started from the bottom now we here
Well that was quite the spike.
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Is there a place to rally for CT?
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Nanis23 posted...
Safer_777 posted...
CT is loved by everyone here. That is why there is the most complaining now.


But this is hypocrisy
Imagine the contest finale, Chrono Trigger vs Ocarina of Time
Ocarina of Time leading with 53%, and is increasing slowly
Then someone puts a rally on /r/gaming, which somehow turns out they are big fans of Chrono Trigger
Chrono Trigger turns it around in 2 hours, match ends with 55/45% for Chrono Trigger
Will the same people complain? can you honestly say that they will?
They will be happy, call it a "rise from the ashes" and that Chrono Trigger was the underdog all contest etc


Nanis23 posted...
Safer_777 posted...
CT is loved by everyone here. That is why there is the most complaining now.


But this is hypocrisy
Imagine the contest finale, Chrono Trigger vs Ocarina of Time
Ocarina of Time leading with 53%, and is increasing slowly
Then someone puts a rally on /r/gaming, which somehow turns out they are big fans of Chrono Trigger
Chrono Trigger turns it around in 2 hours, match ends with 55/45% for Chrono Trigger
Will the same people complain? can you honestly say that they will?
They will be happy, call it a "rise from the ashes" and that Chrono Trigger was the underdog all contest etc


Are the same people complaining now? Did you dot down their names and compare? I think most people complaining are consistent and just don't like rallying period.
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CT died so I could watch the battle of the rallies. Your deeds wont be forgotten sweet prince.

Now, here's hoping Undertake doesnt flop against pikemon like I expect it might. Though even if it does survive that, it could always fall to Mario 64 if there's significant rally spillover from Melee whichI believe will also be compering thatsame day, right?
Chill out boys, CT clearly has the strength to muscle past this rally anyway
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If CT loses and even though I don't like it, I will support Undertale.
Also rallies are good yeah. But there are some games that are loved by everyone that you are pissed when they lose. Super Mario Bros 1, Chrono Trigger and others. When these games are getting owned by rallies even though you like rallies you still don't like it!
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124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest!
Crono is pretty unlucky.
Beaten by Missingno in 12h match, then sffed by Magnus against Pokemon (in what would have been a close match without the sff) and now a Melee rally while he was winning easily.
Also what the f*** is the logic behind "Chrono Trigger is losing to rallies? I am on the Undertale bandwagon now!"
What?
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Nanis23 posted...
Also what the f*** is the logic behind "Chrono Trigger is losing to rallies? I am on the Undertale bandwagon now!"
What?


Because Undertale is one of the few things that could take down rallied Melee and avenge Chrono Trigger.
but like... at least melee is a top game on this website
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My position on the matter hasnt changed. I'm not pafticularly against rallies, I just cheer for my favorite games. If CT loses I'll cheer for Undertale not to spite Melee, which is a game whose competitive scene I enjoy, but just because I like Undertale more. Come Grand Finals I do prefer OoT to either UT/Melee. That said I have no bracket on stake since I missed the early parts of the tournament so Im obviously not as invested as other people with money on the line.
Realistically not many people have money on the line. On the other hand, anybody can have their enjoyment of the contest affected depending on where they stand on the rally issue.
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These rallies are sickening.
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By the way wasn't FFX supposed to be on Melee's league, or something? Melee would, and always has been able to, slaughter that game at will.

Also if it manages to beat this Level STARSTAR Chrono Trigger, color me impressed.
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Averia posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Also what the f*** is the logic behind "Chrono Trigger is losing to rallies? I am on the Undertale bandwagon now!"
What?


Because Undertale is one of the few things that could take down rallied Melee and avenge Chrono Trigger.


But if you hate Melee rallying but fine with Undertale rally I...just don't get it
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yeaaaaaaah boi
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Melee wasn't far from FFX in 2004, wasn't far from it in 2009, wasn't far from it in 2010, and didn't look far from it this contest until the rallying kicked in.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering to respond to Ulti trolling.
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You guys are completely delusional if you don't think a lot of melees power is from rallies. You can't just discount that. Zelda gets the same power and just because it is less visible you don't care. And this would have happened a decade ago on fansites instead of reddit if smash had the same huge competitive scene then. Outside of blatant cheating most people were not mad about starcraft rallies influencing results.

Most of you are just being bitter because CT is your favourite game and Undertale and Draven have soured you on all rallies.

And don't give me that "This is unpredictable" garbage, myself, hylian and others have all been calling this possibility for weeks but your CT love and its dominance of turds blinded you to the possibility.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
By the way wasn't FFX supposed to be on Melee's league, or something? Melee would, and always has been able to, slaughter that game at will.

Also if it manages to beat this Level STARSTAR Chrono Trigger, color me impressed.


The second-to-last time Melee and FFX were in the same poll Melee won easily, but it was an lol 4-way with Kingdom Hearts in the same poll.

You might be right, but then again the lol GOTD x-stats had Melee two spots behind FFX. But then again I guess you could just say that Majora's Mask messed up the stats for that contest.
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Oh, Armada tweeted in support of Melee. That explains the big Melee surge over the past 20 minutes.
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Has this rally been helping FFVII as well?
Its percentage has been going up, and I wouldn't be surprised if Cloud in Smash 4 has been played a role in that.
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And how many times have I seen people talk about Nick's Facebook rallying gonna make CT win the contest and no one cared?
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
And don't give me that "This is unpredictable" garbage


Predictablity no longer means s*** after 3 and 4 ways honestly
I know that a game contest is different from character contest, but still

But I can understand not liking things that are too unpredictable
I enjoy the contest mostly because of drama, but I can totally understand people that like the "prediction" aspect
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
And how many times have I seen people talk about Nick's Facebook rallying gonna make CT win the contest and no one cared?


THIS THIS THIS THIS X1000000000000

After round 2 I made a CT vs Ocarina poll on the board. CT won easily, no one complained about a rally potentially beating Ocarina. Board 8 wants things both ways.

Now people are free to dislike rallies, that's fine, we can agree to disagree, but the people who selectively like them are being silly.
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Melee beasting.

Hopefully we get more rallies and tweets!
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I'm telling you it's always the worst games that get the rallies I guess in that respect today shouldn't be w shocker! Too bad Melee can't get an Ocarina crushing!
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6051
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6115
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6147

Note the votals. Note what this match is going to have. I pretty much dismissed Nick's rally as a joke after seeing how they didn't inflate the votals all that much.
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Woke up, figured CT was winning anyways so was deciding between which of the two I should give my vote. Decided for CT, just in case something crazy was happening and it was struggling.

And well...
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CT did well the first half of that hour, but then we got a tweet from Armada and Melee went berserk. That hour had the second highest extra votes of the day, behind only 1-2 AM. We are over 9500 votes above OOT/FFIX now.

10 AM

Chrono Trigger by the Hour:

1:00 | 55.22% | +669
2:00 | 44.25% | -583
3:00 | 44.15% | -435
4:00 | 46.12% | -208
5:00 | 48.94% | -68
6:00 | 52.14% | +87
7:00 | 51.26% | +72
8:00 | 51.89% | +115
9:00 | 50.04% | +3
10:00 | 49.44% | -42

OOT/FFIX - 25311
Undertale/SMW - 38795
CT/SSBM - 34892

Votes above OOT/FFIX: 9581

Estimated Rallied Votes by Hour:

1:00 | 903
2:00 | 1797
3:00 | 1221
4:00 | 807
5:00 | 553
6:00 | 500
7:00 | 694
8:00 | 855
9:00 | 985
10:00 | 1254
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ZFS posted...
I'm telling you it's always the worst games that get the rallies I guess in that respect today shouldn't be w shocker! Too bad Melee can't get an Ocarina crushing!


Whaaaaaaat
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30 more votes!

Bury this s***.
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CT's managed to do pretty great considering a Melee rally is likely to be real lopsided. Feel like if it dies down CT could do some work.
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Oh, forgot an additive theme!

It looks like Chrono Trigger is gonna have a bad time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4o
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ZFS posted...
I'm telling you it's always the worst games that get the rallies I guess in that respect today shouldn't be w shocker! Too bad Melee can't get an Ocarina crushing!


Agreed
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It's kind of funny seeing board 8 turn on one of its top 10 games.

I guess it doesn't help that Chrono Trigger ranks slightly higher.
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Weren't you saying earlier how great it would be for CT to win the contest Ulti?
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Chrono Trigger can feel its sins crawling on its back.
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Melee not even a top 100 video game
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Also now is a good time to restate my opinion that Smash Bros isn't that fun in general and seeing it butcher some of my all time favorites over the years has left me disinclined to root for it when it is being bastardly.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Weren't you saying earlier how great it would be for CT to win the contest Ulti?


Yeah I'd love if CT won. If it beat Melee here I'd be sad on a favorites game kind of level, but if it won the contest I'd have no issue with it. Remember, I'm "anything but SotC or Ocarina".

This is me purely rooting for one of my all-time favorite games and little else, plus vindication for that Brawl > Melee nonsense would be awesome. Brawl would never, ever get rally support like this. The Smash community, childish as it can be, is nuts when it gets together for a common cause. Makes me proud that I used to be a part of it. The nostalgia here, and the countless all-nighters with friends is nothing Chrono Trigger can touch in my heart.
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Hey man SSB and SSB4 are great don't let the Melee losers ruin it!
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