12/7/2015 12:44:21 AM#251
That poll got 23,000 votes in 24 hours. This one already has 15,000 in less than 4 hours. It's a different sample size and the poll actually matters now.
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Chrono Trigger's Percentage in......

United Kingdom - 50.26%
France - 63.92%
Germany - 59.11%
Italy - 79.66%
Spain - 64.29%
Netherlands - 49.72%

Philippines - 73.33%
Australia - 49.63%
Brazil - 82.95%

Canada - 47.52%
United States - 45.22%

This rally is really North America-centric.
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ughh how does it go from a 3 vote gain to a 32 vote gain.
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That makes sense. Isn't the pro Smash scene really US-centric?
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LordoftheMorons posted...
That makes sense. Isn't the pro Smash scene really US-centric?


Yeah, it is very US centric. Europe is the second biggest scene but it doesn't really compare.
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The last 15 minutes, this poll gained 155 votes on the OOT/FFIX poll. The rally is slowing down, but it's still pulling in 50 votes per update.
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Smash gets its first update below 100 votes, and gains 2 votes.
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pro Smash scenes is definitely US-centric.

Folks on the Gfaqs Melee boards have had something to do with the rallies, though I don't think it's just us.

I don't have a horse in this race per se. I love both games and I've never been too into the polls. Interesting to read what y'all think about this rally.
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Ffvii over70% in uk. Damn fanboys
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Almost 7 AM in Brazil. Hope that 82% for CT there holds up!
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MaskedSheik posted...
pro Smash scenes is definitely US-centric.

Folks on the Gfaqs Melee boards have had something to do with the rallies, though I don't think it's just us.

I don't have a horse in this race per se. I love both games and I've never been too into the polls. Interesting to read what y'all think about this rally.


If undertale didnt exist i would want chrono to win because i want to see the strongest games win. Melee winning would only serve the purpose of taking down undertale
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For what it's worth, the rally is still the top thread on the Smash reddit, though there are only 1100 people there now (versus ~2500 when Melee was in a frenzy). Melee can probably do this with that reddit topic alone - assuming it doesn't get deleted - though I'm hoping it blows its full wad with Smash Boards and pro tweets here so it might be less likely to get that kind of support against FFVII.
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Lol pro smash. That's like being pro Mario Party or pro Mario Kart.
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But at least we also have the second highest thread in the Chrono Trigger reddit!

(with it's whopping six users browsing)
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red sox 777 posted...
There was a big reddit rally, and at least one Smash pro who tweeted about it.


that Smash guy was small fry though lol


He's also from the Melee board here fyi
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If we somehow get Melee > CT followed by FFVII > Melee, then my bracket is somewhat saved but dammit no

not like this

this was CT's moment

i don't even really believe that OoT can save us

there is nothing but despair now
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Zylothewolf posted...
Lol pro smash. That's like being pro Mario Party or pro Mario Kart.


Ignorance is bliss
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Please cut before I go to bed CT.
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afaik none of the big Melee guys have talked about the contest yet. My guess is that if Mew2King (likely) or Mango (unlikely but very popular) get involved on Twitter/Twitch, we'll see another mini-rally.
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4 AM Eastern, 1 AM Pacific

Chrono Trigger by the Hour:

1:00 | 55.22% | +669
2:00 | 44.25% | -583
3:00 | 44.15% | -435
4:00 | 46.12% | -208

OOT/FFIX - 13159
Undertale/SMW - 18130
CT/SSBM - 17887

Votes above OOT/FFIX: 4728

We gained an additional 807 votes above the OOT/FFIX match in the last hour, but we've fallen behind the pace of the Undertale/SMW match.
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(edited 12/7/2015 1:02:45 AM)report
Oh yeah, and:

Chrono Trigger - 8665
Ocarina of Time - 8380

CT > OOT confirmed.
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Cut #1. At last.
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12/7/2015 1:11:48 AM#273
Just in time for FFVII to go over 59%, too!

FFVII currently at 62.12% on Wind Waker.
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that was all a Chrono Trigger spike

counter-rally? this is getting interesting
Looking at the map, Melee has finally managed to flip the UK into its column, but trails badly across the rest of Europe. Melee is trying very hard to reach 55% in the US, but isn't quite there. It has, however, just hit an even 60% in the State of California.
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LeonhartFour posted...
That poll got 23,000 votes in 24 hours. This one already has 15,000 in less than 4 hours. It's a different sample size and the poll actually matters now.


It's also not the sample size that matters, but last year's poll had a poll question tied to it. Unlike a contest match where you don't have a poll question to deal with. The poll question for last year's poll asked you which game was better, which is something that requires playing both games to make an educated decision on a poll like that. This means the poll was basically limited to those who have played both games. People tend to be a lot more honest in a regular poll than a contest match and they weren't going to vote if they haven't played both games. Those who have played only one of the games were far less likely to vote, while it was extremely unlikely someone votes in that poll without playing either game. There might be some truth to that theory based on the trends of that poll, since FFVII couldn't even pull off a 55% hour overnight during its best time, which suggests a lot of the Europeans weren't voting in the poll since FFVI wasn't released there and thus were unlikely to have played both games. Vote totals on that poll were also about 8000 votes less than the large 14-way poll.

Contest matches work differently, as people vote even if they have only played one of the games listed in the match. And thanks to bracket voting, people can even vote without playing either game.
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I would be very interested to see what the US percentage is excluding California, which is at 60% and I'm guessing contains a much higher share of the votes right now than its 1/8 share of the US population, due to the poll starting at 9 PM on the West Coast.
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Also the Melee scene is specifically bigger in California than any other state. Though I dunno how much that actually correlates with r/smashbros.
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4:30 AM

OOT/FFIX - 14034
Undertale/SMW - 19394
CT/SSBM - 19062

Extra Votes: 5028

We are now more than 5000 votes ahead of OOT's match, and a little over 300 behind Undertale's. We picked up another 300 on the OOT match in the last half hour, so the rally is still going at the pace of 50 votes per update.
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Fun matches and interesting results but most importantly can we please stop referring to Smash players as 'pros'.
No matter your feelings on Smash as a serious game, there are people who earn a living playing Smash, and I would suggest that "pro" is what we call these people.
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Has it finally stopped?
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repost: is there an archive to previous stats topics?
No, it's still going at about 50 votes/update, or about 35 net. If not for the rally, CT would be making big gains right now.
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repost: is there an archive to previous stats topics?


Yes, www.thengamer.com/stats
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Zylothewolf posted...
Lol pro smash. That's like being pro Mario Party or pro Mario Kart.


What a stupid post this is.
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Cut #2, 45 minutes after the first. I think CT's best hope at this point is the morning, to take advantage of natural Gamefaqs vote intake going back up.
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Well at least I have proof that I really do hate rallying even if it's for games I love.

Thought maybe it was just because I didn't care about Undertale or Draven, but nope. I love Melee but still feels bad.
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How do y'all think this will pan out overall? As stated before, Melee's popularity is largely US-centric, and presumably a lot of the Cali votes just happened during the present rally. It sounds reasonable to expect Chrono Trigger to gain back on Melee as the US sleeps, perhaps with some manner of counter-rally (what kinds of community hubs are there for Chrono Trigger/JRPGs in general?), and then at some point Melee will reawaken with another rally, largely capturing the central and east coast folks in North America. Something like that? It's still quite close despite the rally, do y'all think Chrono Trigger will fight it back?
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RPGs are not easy to rally for. CT will probably win if there are no further rallies (since it's naturally stronger), but it can't really do anything to fight back.
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5 AM Eastern, 2 AM Pacific

CT strings together 2 cuts in a row to end the hour.

Chrono Trigger by the Hour:

1:00 | 55.22% | +669
2:00 | 44.25% | -583
3:00 | 44.15% | -435
4:00 | 46.12% | -208
5:00 | 48.94% | -68

OOT/FFIX - 14866
Undertale/SMW - 20586
CT/SSBM - 20145

Votes above OOT/FFIX: 5281

The last half hour, we picked up.....253 on the Ocarina match. Rally is still chugging along, at 40-50 votes per update, 30-40 net.
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My jaw dropped when I saw the poll, then I saw the numbers and realised there was heavy rallying. I see it was 60/40 (maybe higher - Melee should do best in the power hour) without intervention, which is about what I expected.
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Wait Melee is getting rallied?
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I can't get angry when this rally may be the sole responsible for me winning the guru challenge.
Btw who is even rallying melee?
Huh apparently I'll be #1 in the guru after today if Melee wins
Rallies are still lame
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I don't even care much. I haven't played either of these games in ages and have next to no idea which one I like more anyway. As much as you can compare an RPG to a fighting game.

Voted for Chrono Trigger because I've played it more recently.
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Not clear, no one's owned up to it. Possible it's just a Smash fan. The rally is on reddit.
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Based on OOT/FFIX, there are about 36,000 natural Gamefaqs votes left in the poll. If those split 60/40 for Chrono Trigger, that is a net swing of 7200 votes. SSBM is up about 600, so it needs to rally around 6600 more, net, over the rest of the match to win.

Assuming CT would be at 60% right now naturally with the number of votes from the OOT match, CT would have a lead of 2973; thus, Melee's rally has already gained around 3600 net, for around 84% of the extra votes. That would require Melee to rally an additional 9700 votes or so total to make up the 6600 net it needs- a little less than double what it's done in the first 5 hours of this poll.
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