I don't think that many voters are Undertale fans. Sure, a lot are - maybe even a majority - but there's tons of people who got rallied for that match and voted for Undertale without anything more than a cursory knowledge of the game. I know a couple!
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transience posted...
Undertale pollution is exactly why I would take CT over FF7 easily. people who like Undertale will heavily overlap with people who like CT.


I disagree when it comes to tumblr
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I think FFX genuinely has been knocked down a few pegs in terms of contest strength; every single one of its matches suggested as much. There was no indication of a Melee drop, though, unless you really want to spin-doctor Smash U's results to work against it. (And you shouldn't.)

In 2015, Chrono Trigger is stronger than Ocarina of Time. It's not impossible for this statement to be wrong, but burden of proof is on OoT now, not CT.
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(edited 12/6/2015 9:34:12 PM)report
Yesterday's X-Stats:

Metal Gear Solid – 50.00%
Shadow of the Colossus – 46.44%
EarthBound – 39.66%
Red Dead Redemption – 37.87%
Borderlands 2 – 32.82%
Bayonetta 2 – 27.27%
Team Fortress 2 – 25.37%
Splatoon – 20.93%

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater – 50.00%
BioShock – 47.97%
Mass Effect 2 – 39.36%
Starcraft – 38.48%
Silent Hill 2 – 37.00%
Mother 3 – 30.50%
Destiny – 19.63%
Zero Escape: Virtue’s Last Reward – 16.47%
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FF7's only two years older than CT guys
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Also if you're not counting on backfire a la RBY, this site is going to at least fight back with everything it's got for CT should we get CT/Undertale. Don't think it'll amount to anything, but we'll see!
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LeonhartFour posted...
Mother 3 – 30.50%
Destiny – 19.63%


heh
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So Earthbound/ME2 go
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transience posted...
FF7's only two years older than CT guys


that secret FFVII 1993 release Square didn't want anyone to know about
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there is a Melee rally on r/smashbros which may be gaining steam

haven't checked smashboards though
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
yeah there's definitely something going on here. CT is dying.
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Looks like rallies might be kicking in
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
FFX looks like it may be redeemed, if CT keeps rising after the Power Hour. I think CT has a shot at finishing at 62+%.

Leon, did you really believe Melee would finish low enough to redeem FFX or was that just a joke?

Personally I expected 63% for CT here (a couple points SFF vs FFX), but everyone was much lower in the Oracle than that. So I went with a conservative 60.25%, which was still higher than most.

It seems like most Oracle pickers didn't trust the FFX result, or thought FFX dropped a lot.
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Melee back over 40%

FFVII blows past 55%
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save_my.bracket
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Janus5k posted...
there is a Melee rally on r/smashbros which may be gaining steam

haven't checked smashboards though


The rally post is currently 4th overall on the subreddit, ignoring the stickied topics.
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creativename posted...
Leon, did you really believe Melee would finish low enough to redeem FFX or was that just a joke?


I believed the CT result was legit more than anything else. I still thought FFX and Melee were close like they literally always have been, regardless of what anyone wants to claim!

but here comes the Melee rallies to muddy the waters
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Reddit please go away (until tomorrow)
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Wrong way CT. Back over 60% with you.
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FF7 gets a higher percentage than CT. Who wins next round?
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Yep, Smash is steady while CT is losing natural GameFAQs voters.

RALLIES
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FFVII over 55% though, 35 minutes in. We can probably get to 56% by the end of the power hour, and then......maybe 60% by the end of this.
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CT/Melee has 176 more votes than FF6/FF7

MGS/SOTC and MGS3/ME2 were separated by 19 votes
MGS2/RE4 and CC/SMRPG were separated by 31 votes

there are about 900 more votes in the CT match than there were in the other listed matches
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LordoftheMorons posted...
So Earthbound/ME2 go


My theory: EarthBound wins NA, ME2 wins the match overall.
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Melee literally not even a Top 15 game in natural strength and I still took this joke game to the finals
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Janus5k posted...
there is a Melee rally on r/smashbros which may be gaining steam

haven't checked smashboards though


Smashboards rally probably won't be till daytime if there is one. A smashboards rally would also be much stronger than the reddit rally though, especially if you get the top players to tweet out the competition as just for example M2K (https://twitter.com/MVG_Mew2King) has 71K followers, and that is only one of the top players. Leffen has over 300k followers(though some are bots lol).
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you know, in hindsight

I'm not really sure what convinced me FFX could not beat CT but Melee could
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LeonhartFour posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
4 matches in a row pointing to CT being sky high! I don't think SSBM or FF10 are really that much weaker than what the GotD stats suggest relative to other GotD games.


Oh, I'm not trying to discredit CT's performance.

It's just that the people who've tried to claim Melee is a top ten game for years have overrated the thing to high heaven.


8 games that are stronger:
CT, OoT, FF7, ALttP, RBY, SMW, M64, Mario 3

3 games that are probably stronger:
FF3, MM, Super Metroid

Am I missing anything? I think SSBM is outside of the Top 10 but it can put a scare into 9th place. To say SSBM (or FF10) is top 10 isn't overrating it by that much.
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Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest!
Welp
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
heh here we go

looks like the rally is helping FF6 too
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It would be hilarious if a massive smash rally knocked out CT when we've been talking about how awesome CT has been.
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I think I was hedging my bets based on the idea that CT could lose to FFX and not even be in the match whereas Melee definitely would be

lol me
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Not the right day for pro-Nintendo rallies, internet.
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Magmortar75 posted...
you know, in hindsight

I'm not really sure what convinced me FFX could not beat CT but Melee could


NintendoFAQs
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Waiting for FFXV & KH3.
what the hell that was a huge CT dropoff
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NOOOOOOO

CT! Don't get stalled!
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creativename posted...
It seems like most Oracle pickers didn't trust the FFX result, or thought FFX dropped a lot.


I had CT at 59.65%. My assumption is that FFX dropped a lot, while Melee's pre-rally numbers against Pokemon GSC were fairly well in line with their GotD performances. Well, with Melee getting a rally right now, I guess I made a good decision to not put CT above 60%.
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CT dropped off hard on that update. Really hard. The other three games have stayed pretty consistent.
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If Chrono Trigger goes from a probable 63% win to losing because of reddit then damn
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
red sox 777 posted...
NOOOOOOO

CT! Don't get stalled!


QUICK

we need Vincent/Crono trends
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Board 8's scenario:

"I want this to be the year of Chrono Trigger" vs. "Rally-fueled Smash is what we need to stop Undertale"

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/689/6894530/2781815-2293208131-339.p.png
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CT is awesome when it comes to natural GameFAQs strength. When it comes to a significant rally plus a near elite game's strength, though, it can be vulnerable.

GameFAQs votes don't count like they used to anymore (meaning in case if anyone was wondering, we're all still screwed against Undertale).
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https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3vr5e9/vote_for_melee/

Here it is!
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
That's why we need Smash to save us
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this is why we can't have nice things

B8's precious pets can't ever be allowed to go quietly into the night
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Hmm, maybe the Melee rally has a point. People already complaining about Undertale beating Mario World.
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Future 2015 Guru Contest runner-up.
60% update for FFVII, huh.
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argh don't do this
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