12/6/2015 9:14:29 PM#151
7 people fell off the Top 50. whatisurnameplz, TheKnightOfNee, iiicon, t_kizzle, Rahvinn, PSI_NESS and BenZayb had at least one of MGS or MGS3 losing.

2 people scored half points and survived. Kenri and swirIdude only scored 4 points but are still on the Top 50.
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No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585.
Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest!
Undertale fans are the worst fans in contest history confirmed
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
One can only imagine what will happen to Melee once the power hour ends.
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFX > SSBM, FFVII > FFVI
Points 163/192
You could use Melee, KH2, or G/S/C and probably end up with a lot of different results. I'll run them in a bit.
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Pokemon please

We need you
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
So honest question here, can someone explain how FFX/Melee were board favourites over CT?


I honestly have no clue about FFX (you'd think Final Fantasy Fear would have died in like 2009), but it's easy to explain Melee. NintendoFear. Melee lost to Brawl in 2010 but would have cruised through that contest otherwise and would have probably beaten Brawl in the final.

Also, you really, really, REALLY couldn't call CT the #3 game on the site when it got its butt kicked by Mario 64 in a match that should have favored it. Doubly so when all the CT characters have looked worse and worse for like a decade. Melee was a sensible division winner. It's getting obliterated now, but three weeks ago, no one could have claimed that based on past results.


Exactly.
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ok.
CT continues to rise
Good update for FF7 though
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Rallies will bring Melee back above 40% damnit

(please?)
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"This is all we have... when we die.."
This is a cute bonus day before the the finals tomorrow
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Is this, like, the biggest boost without a cause of hype/new release in contest history?

I want answers here
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
damn that second update felt good

Melee pulling a DKC2 here
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xyzzy
Now over 60% for real.
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NEVER FORGET.
Tomorrow is the day that I fall off the leaderboard probably (I had SMW advancing).
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With what? ROT-13? -CJayC
Pokemon needs to beat Undertale tomorrow so Chrono Trigger can finally avenge its 2010 and 2013 losses.
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Rallies will bring Melee back above 40% damnit

(please?)


If you rally for it people are just going to assume it's weaker than FFX even if it doesn't finish below that number
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Chrono Trigger iOS happened

also I get the feeling that CT's had hidden strength for a long time now. we just had bad formats to prove it. 2004 CT was a clear #3 and FF7/Ocarina have come back to the pack.
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xyzzy
The only hope for Melee is that Kefka works his magic simply by being onscreen, causing Chrono Trigger to nonsensically drop off after the Power Hour.
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raytan is the guru champ, yo yo yo
He won it in the year of the draggy crow
transience posted...
Chrono Trigger iOS happened

also I get the feeling that CT's had hidden strength for a long time now. we just had bad formats to prove it. 2004 CT was a clear #3 and FF7/Ocarina have come back to the pack.


it's the site's goddamn most popular game
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Chrono Trigger in 2009 was clearly weaker than Super Mario 64. SM64 wouldn't be doing this to Melee.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Top 10 Update

Nothing broke into the top 10 today.
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFX > SSBM, FFVII > FFVI
Points 163/192
Congrats to the longtime stats topic regs for this result, btw. The stats topic does have a Square-slant relative to the rest of the board, but I don't mind it because the regs here are so cool about their favorite games. Win big, CT!

I've got to shed a tear for Melee, though. I would have loved nothing more than a 2007 games contest to watch it wreck house and emerge as the clear #3.
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Now time for FFVII to push for 60%. It has a chance.
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NEVER FORGET.
Almost 60% for FFVII that update.

Very nice.
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
Karma Hunter posted...
transience posted...
Chrono Trigger iOS happened

also I get the feeling that CT's had hidden strength for a long time now. we just had bad formats to prove it. 2004 CT was a clear #3 and FF7/Ocarina have come back to the pack.


it's the site's goddamn most popular game


isn't it beautiful
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Don't worry, kids love Kefka.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
So honest question here, can someone explain how FFX/Melee were board favourites over CT?


I honestly have no clue about FFX (you'd think Final Fantasy Fear would have died in like 2009), but it's easy to explain Melee. NintendoFear. Melee lost to Brawl in 2010 but would have cruised through that contest otherwise and would have probably beaten Brawl in the final.

Also, you really, really, REALLY couldn't call CT the #3 game on the site when it got its butt kicked by Mario 64 in a match that should have favored it. Doubly so when all the CT characters have looked worse and worse for like a decade. Melee was a sensible division winner. It's getting obliterated now, but three weeks ago, no one could have claimed that based on past results.


Uhhhh

Chrono Trigger (2004g) VS SSB Melee (2004g)

Chrono Trigger has a strength of 45.94.
SSB Melee has a strength of 41.33.

Chrono Trigger wins with 55.02% of the vote!
A win of 9,429 with 93,964 total votes cast.

It's clear that a return to low votals would make this contest closer to 2004 than to recent years, at least that was the logic I had when I immediately choose CT in this match.

I guess some people were just too caught up on 4-way results.
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lol xstats
Although Wind Waker is tricky because there's a chance it's underrated based on GOTD stats.

I'll run a few things and see what we get.

For FFVII:

Based on Wind Waker, FFVII is currently projected at 50.22% on Majora. If you assume MM/WW are mostly indistinguishable from each other, that would run FFVII up to 56.98% on Majora.

Based on KOTOR, FFVII is at 54.30% on Majora.

Based on TTYD, FFVII is at 54.79% on Majora.

Based on ME1, FFVII is at 55.33% on Majora.

For CT:

Based on Melee, CT is at 59.18% on Majora.

Based on KH2, CT is at 55.97% on Majora.

Based on G/S/C, CT is at 64.14% on Majora.

Most of the numbers favor CT, but there's a pretty wide range.

(Note: That was before the 12:20 update when FFVII just jumped up about a full percent, so those FFVII projections will jump up about a percent as well)
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transience posted...
Chrono Trigger iOS happened

also I get the feeling that CT's had hidden strength for a long time now. we just had bad formats to prove it. 2004 CT was a clear #3 and FF7/Ocarina have come back to the pack.


You mean the iOS port that has a grand total of 15 customer reviews? Right, it cettainly moved the needle on the game's popularity.

Even CTDS didn't sell very well, and that was on the most popular dedicated handheld console in history.
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ok.
If FF9=RE4 and WW=MM, OoT and FF7 are currently projected to nearly tie in a match.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Also, Melee has always been ridiculously overrated. Probably about as much as FFX.
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Karma Hunter posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Rallies will bring Melee back above 40% damnit

(please?)


If you rally for it people are just going to assume it's weaker than FFX even if it doesn't finish below that number


Rallies are a part of its strength though. You can reliably bank on them like Starcraft, Pokemon or Undertale.
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Damn still #2 on the leaderboard.

Eikei has thwarted me at every turn! I hope he is a melee fanboy!
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My butt was devastated by raytan.
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No they aren't
Boo rallies
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I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword
I'm already spinning this result into FFX > SSBM, don't you worry about that.
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It's clear that a return to low votals would make this contest closer to 2004 than to recent years, at least that was the logic I had when I immediately choose CT in this match.

I guess some people were just too caught up on 4-way results.


Honestly I would have taken 2009 Chrono Trigger to win this division, I just thought it would be weaker now because of the Crono crew.
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFX > SSBM, FFVII > FFVI
Points 163/192
hmm

so I think I'm feeling like CT/OOT is a 52/48 type of match, advantage CT right now. not that it matters but hey

CT/FF7 is going to be a CT win though for sure.
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xyzzy
12/6/2015 9:28:50 PM#187
LeonhartFour posted...
Also, Melee has always been ridiculously overrated. Probably about as much as FFX.


4 matches in a row pointing to CT being sky high! I don't think SSBM or FF10 are really that much weaker than what the GotD stats suggest relative to other GotD games.
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No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585.
Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest!
wonder how much the remake trailer is helping. probably not that much - but if I weren't confident in FF7 rising to like 57-58% from here on, I'd say that it may have saved it.
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xyzzy
I originally had CT losing to FF7, but board convinced me with Crono losing strength over the years and the 2009 results.

Damnit.

Probably would have been a lock for a prize.

Come on Melee ralliessss
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I'm not sure I would put Chrono Trigger at #3 in 2004. LttP probably beats it if the poll is at the top of the page.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
4 matches in a row pointing to CT being sky high! I don't think SSBM or FF10 are really that much weaker than what the GotD stats suggest relative to other GotD games.


Oh, I'm not trying to discredit CT's performance.

It's just that the people who've tried to claim Melee is a top ten game for years have overrated the thing to high heaven.
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Eh, I agree CT is stronger than FF7, but between FF7 having hype for once and Undertale pollution I can't say CT wins with any kind of certainty next round. I give it like 70/30 confidence?
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
yeah chrono trigger fans are better scrollers than lttp fans
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xyzzy
LOLContests posted...
I'm not sure I would put Chrono Trigger at #3 in 2004. LttP probably beats it if the poll is at the top of the page.


*sighs*
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CT/Melee has quite a bit more votes than FFVII/FFVI.

Rallying?
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BGE3: Today's Matches FFX > SSBM, FFVII > FFVI
Points 163/192
transience posted...
CT/FF7 is going to be a CT win though for sure.


Which is, unfortunately, a storm in a teacup considering it will be in a practically unwinnable situation against Undertale/UberPokemon. Perhaps Pokemon is a winnable match if its ralliers beat Undertale and then disappear, but the odds of that seem slim.
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Undertale pollution is exactly why I would take CT over FF7 easily. people who like Undertale will heavily overlap with people who like CT. the only thing I'm not sure of are the people who are just coming to vote in the poll who have never even heard of Undertale.
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xyzzy
charmander6000 posted...
CT/Melee has quite a bit more votes than FFVII/FFVI.

Rallying?


SFF matches tend to have lower vote totals because the pool of voters shrinks a bit.
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gonna repeat it - CT has a better chance of beating Undertale than Pokemon does
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xyzzy
transience posted...
Undertale pollution is exactly why I would take CT over FF7 easily. people who like Undertale will heavily overlap with people who like CT. the only thing I'm not sure of are the people who are just coming to vote in the poll who have never even heard of Undertale.


Don't forget a lot of Undertale fans weren't born yet when CT came out.
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