DKC1 got 24% on Link to the Past directly despite SFF.
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BioShock could've beaten MGS3 in a 12 hour day match, too...!
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Karma Hunter posted...
12 hour matches would have stopped Undertale before it even started and killed Majora's Mask



you say that like its a bad thing
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eww 12 hour matches.

If we ever go back down that road mine as well start off with 6 hour matches.
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So what is the general consensus as to why both OOT and MM look weak and ALTTP looks strong?
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SNES
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Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Link to the Past
Final Fantasy IX
Super Metroid
Dark Souls

One of these is more out of place than the others.
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LeonhartFour posted...
No CoD is going to be worth anything in these contests anymore.

Need more S3&K. One of these days, SBAllen won't be able to keep it out anymore! ONE OF THESE DAYS

(Also DKC1 > DKC2 is probably a thing)


why would DKC1 > DKC2 be a thing
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Hm, hy are so many expecting MGS2 to do better than Paper Mario on RE4? Didn't MGS3 drop like a rock, and shouldn't MGS2 do worse...?
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question about the pics that were posted in the last topic - will those be entirely visible on mobile, or will they be chopped?
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Haste_2 posted...
Hm, hy are so many expecting MGS2 to do better than Paper Mario on RE4? Didn't MGS3 drop like a rock, and shouldn't MGS2 do worse...?


MGS2 solidly > MGS3
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You could maybe argue Grand Theft Auto III is the strongest of its series but it probably wouldn't be by much. And while this doesn't necessarily means it's wrong, my understanding is that III at the top would go heavily against the GTA fanbase's preferences.

Without looking it up I have no idea whether Civilization IV or V is stronger and wouldn't trust Civ IV's GotD result to be consistent with current strength but it barely matters given gamefaqs doesn't care about either. Same dilemma for original Animal Crossing vs. New Leaf.
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12/4/2015 6:55:16 PM#65
The_Lazy_Goron posted...
So what is the general consensus as to why both OOT and MM look weak and ALTTP looks strong?


MM isn't really significantly weaker than it was during GotD. Super Metroid is just super strong. OoT has lost a step but I feel like it should still be the clear #2 game and that's mostly due to Chrono Trigger suddenly becoming much stronger.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
The_Lazy_Goron posted...
So what is the general consensus as to why both OOT and MM look weak and ALTTP looks strong?


MM isn't really significantly weaker than it was during GotD. Super Metroid is just super strong. OoT has lost a step but I feel like it should still be the clear #2 game and that's mostly due to Chrono Trigger suddenly becoming much stronger.


Ok. So I'm guessing strength wise its OOT > ALTTP > MM, or is that wrong?
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That is our understanding
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OoT is still probably the #1 game until further notice. If CT can do to Melee what it did to FFX, then yeah, we probably have a new #1.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
OoT has lost a step but I feel like it should still be the clear #2 game and that's mostly due to Chrono Trigger suddenly becoming much stronger.

Are we stating CT > OoT as a clear fact now?
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My favorite Zelda is OOT, but I've seen so many people saying their favorite is MM and that they wish it could give OOT a match. Doesn't seem likely it would now though.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
MGS2 solidly > MGS3


yeah I'm not sure you're the best person to ask about the MGS hierarchy

MoogleKupo141 posted...
why would DKC1 > DKC2 be a thing


I don't know why it's a thing, but it seems to be based on their 2009 performances
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12/4/2015 7:06:42 PM#72
Surskit posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
OoT has lost a step but I feel like it should still be the clear #2 game and that's mostly due to Chrono Trigger suddenly becoming much stronger.

Are we stating CT > OoT as a clear fact now?


I think it's pretty likely but it's still a point under debate. SSBM vs CT should give us a more concrete answer.
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KamikazePotato posted...
OoT is still probably the #1 game until further notice. If CT can do to Melee what it did to FFX, then yeah, we probably have a new #1.


you mean if FFX and Melee remain as close to each other as they seemingly always have been, CT is the new strongest game on the site? how does that work?

Melee struggled to get 55% on Kingdom Hearts II, let me remind everyone.

2.5% worse than TP, the game everyone thinks is weaksauce, I might add.
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I still can't see OoT losing to anything except MAYBE FF7. Still think CT is a clear #3. We've seen Link/Zelda games look vulnerable in contests before, but every time they manage to step it up in the final rounds when it matters.

I'm not worried about OoT yet.

As for Majora, it's clear that GotD was a bit of a fluke, in that it got a least a 3-4% bump as an OoT proxy. I would take Melee in a rematch, and maybe FFX. The real outlier here is Super Metroid which has been impressive all contest.
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Karma Hunter posted...
12 hour matches would have stopped Undertale before it even started and killed Majora's Mask

this would have been a day match, so i think MM still wins. Undertale would have also had a day match in round 1 and probably won by even more, but then lost to Fallout 3 in a night match.
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Well, yeah, if CT proves that its result against FFX wasn't SFF or some other weirdness, and it clear the result that OoT got against FF9 on something like Melee, then yeah it's #1.
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Xuxon posted...
this would have been a day match, so i think MM still wins. Undertale would have also had a day match in round 1 and probably won by even more, but then lost to Fallout 3 in a night match.


You're assuming a rally that needed 17 hours to get started somehow comes around in a 12 hour match?
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CT is number 1 when it proves it and beats OoT

which isn't happening this year so sux for CT

four more years of ZELDA
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uh, yes? it's not that "it took 17 hours" it's that "it took until 5pm"
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Xuxon posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
12 hour matches would have stopped Undertale before it even started and killed Majora's Mask

this would have been a day match, so i think MM still wins. Undertale would have also had a day match in round 1 and probably won by even more, but then lost to Fallout 3 in a night match.

No Undertale would have lost since it took like 17 hours for the rally to reach critical mass. That would have been less in a day match (since Tumblr would also work faster during the day), but it wouldn't have been enough.
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12/4/2015 7:12:20 PM#81
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I still can't see OoT losing to anything except MAYBE FF7. Still think CT is a clear #3. We've seen Link/Zelda games look vulnerable in contests before, but every time they manage to step it up in the final rounds when it matters.

I'm not worried about OoT yet.

As for Majora, it's clear that GotD was a bit of a fluke, in that it got a least a 3-4% bump as an OoT proxy. I would take Melee in a rematch, and maybe FFX. The real outlier here is Super Metroid which has been impressive all contest.


I guess I should say I think CT will look stronger indirectly. Maybe in a direct match, OoT will work a miracle and win anyways.

The problem is there are no final rounds. OoT will never directly face CT or FF7 due to Undertale. OoT will never step up it's game since its next opponents are SotN, aLttp and someone from Division 7 or 8.
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This might be the second most disappointing match of the contest
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People were trying to rally for Undertale all day, and it took 17 hours before it actually kicked in.

The problem with first round rallies is that they're slow to start. The vast majority of "rallied" voters aren't aware of the match's existence. It took Draven's first round rally a while to start, and that's with Reddit being a centralized location. Tumblr isn't a centralized location.
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Hm, the counting topic...1 2 3 4 !!!
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Undertale in a 12-hour day match skips the previous 12 hours where it was getting smashed by Mass Effect 3. It wins more easily there. The rally probably starts a little later, but it would still start.
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The_Lazy_Goron posted...
My favorite Zelda is OOT, but I've seen so many people saying their favorite is MM and that they wish it could give OOT a match. Doesn't seem likely it would now though.

Yeah I prefer MM too but OoT has always been on top here and elsewhere.
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12/4/2015 7:22:35 PM#87
LeonhartFour posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
OoT is still probably the #1 game until further notice. If CT can do to Melee what it did to FFX, then yeah, we probably have a new #1.


you mean if FFX and Melee remain as close to each other as they seemingly always have been, CT is the new strongest game on the site? how does that work?

Melee struggled to get 55% on Kingdom Hearts II, let me remind everyone.

2.5% worse than TP, the game everyone thinks is weaksauce, I might add.


If CT gets the same percentage on SSBM as it got on FF10 and you set KH and KH2 as equals, CT is projected to beat OoT with 55% (CT->SSBM->KH2=KH->FF9->OoT). KH2 was stronger the last time it met KH and that's in CT's favour.
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I feel like if you want to proclaim CT the favorite, go ahead and do it now. You don't have to wait for Melee to do it. It's done plenty already.
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It's good to see Metroid get some credit after all these years and after its latest turmoil with its newest games, or lack thereof...like Mega Man, who also had his biggest win in a long time in the last contest. He beat Charizard despite Zero and was a Pokemon-assassin. We also just saw MMX do well on FFX. I wonder if there's a weird boost for respected series that feel underused and are long due a respectable release.

That's right, Other M and Federation Force have insulted the fanbase so bad that they've boosted the Metroid series as a whole.
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I think with FFX, you can always suspect Square SFF. Melee is Nintendo, and a different generation from CT, there can be no doubt about SFF.
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This is great! Nostalgia zon.
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LeonhartFour posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
MGS2 solidly > MGS3


yeah I'm not sure you're the best person to ask about the MGS hierarchy

MoogleKupo141 posted...
why would DKC1 > DKC2 be a thing


I don't know why it's a thing, but it seems to be based on their 2009 performances


DKC1 should have a higher play rate due to having sold more, and was the one that wowed people with stretching the SNES to its limits.

DKC2 is the best game ever made, but it just improved upon everything DKC did and came a year later in the console's lifespan.
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Xuxon posted...
uh, yes? it's not that "it took 17 hours" it's that "it took until 5pm"

Leon is right. It wasn't a 5pm thing, it was a time to gain reblog momentum thing.

Are people seriously wishing for 12 hour matches though? They suck. I prefer multiple matches a day - I'd just slow it down. 4 per day first, 2 second and maybe 3rd, 1 from 3 or 4 on.

Even without Undertale I'd prefer the slower route. Undertale doesn't change my opinion on the issue. We will never be able to control rallies with our low vote totals.
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Nah, I think most people are being facetious about the 12-hour thing because Super Metroid would have won if this was a 12 hour match.
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We can control how many matches at a time one rally affects. I also like being able to focus on one match at a time, fodder or not -- it's hard to keep up sometimes!

Multiple matches at once have been enjoyable, yes, but even without Undertale I thought SBAllen got a little carried away with making some of our later rounds move faster with this format.
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24 hours is way better. And Draven would have annihilated everything without room for any excitement, including Link, on 12 hours.
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Overall I am really happy with this year's format. It's not gimmicky and has the least impact of any of the formats relative to pure 1v1.
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I think DKC2 would do better than DKC1 against a strong opponent but DKC1 beats fodder harder than 2 does
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12/4/2015 8:13:44 PM#100
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