Currently MGS2 would have to be able to get 55.65% on Chrono Cross for SMRPG > RE4 to happen.

That would put CC between Witcher 3 and RE1
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Given the pics, I'm more worried for MGS1 than for 3. That SotC pic is legit art while ME2's is just confusing.


MGS1's pic is fine, and I think the gap between MGS1 and the other MGS games is enough that it won't matter.
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LeonhartFour posted...
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Given the pics, I'm more worried for MGS1 than for 3. That SotC pic is legit art while ME2's is just confusing.


MGS1's pic is fine, and I think the gap between MGS1 and the other MGS games is enough that it won't matter.


SOTC will be hard to take down for anyone.
I love MGS1's pic but then again I could see why some don't care for it. That title screen though.
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A picture of the FOXHOUND Unit would've been much better.
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I still really don't think pics matter here, but just in the sense of judging pics, Mass Effect's 2 is probably the worst of the contest so far. It looks like two blobs.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
There were good chances of ME and Colossus beating MGS but not with the pics chosen. They favor MGS a lot
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metaIslug posted...
There were good chances of ME and Colossus beating MGS but not with the pics chosen. They favor MGS a lot


Even if you do like that MGS1 pic, the Colossus pic is amazing. I don't see how MGS1 is favored 'a lot' in that match.
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So, with Morrowind's solid performance on Metroid Prime in retrospect indicating a boost, do you think Oblivion boosted, as well? Given that Vice City looked pretty good against FFVIII, maybe the GTA series hasn't dropped.... I hope....
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MGS2 vs Oblivion who ya got
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MechanicalWall posted...
Even if you do like that MGS1 pic, the Colossus pic is amazing. I don't see how MGS1 is favored 'a lot' in that match.


They're on equal footing I guess. I'm wondering if Wander will be visible though.
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Wander isn't exactly what carries Shadow of the Colossus, especially not the way Snake carries MGS. That melancholy aesthetic and color palette, and the actual Colossi, are way more a part of the game's identity than its lead is.
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LeonhartFour posted...
you know what else lost in the U.S. and still won the match

Majora's Mask and Final Fantasy IX

MGS3 in good company


You say this as if BioShock is the same strength as ME2, when ME2 is clearly stronger.
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Mario RPG above 60% still? Awesome.
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RIPJimmy posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
you know what else lost in the U.S. and still won the match

Majora's Mask and Final Fantasy IX

MGS3 in good company


You say this as if BioShock is the same strength as ME2, when ME2 is clearly stronger.


ME2 was only 9 spots higher on THE LIST, MGS3 should be fine.

On a more serious note, part of me thinks that maybe MGS2 might not be that much weaker than 1 and 3, due to the series kinda coasting off of name recognition - hence all the weird match picture over/underperformances relating to Metal Gear characters.
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LMS you better have CT beating OoT in your bracket.

If you keep saying this list crap and don't have that then you're a hypocrite.
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I don't have that because I'm not a slave to it.

I pretty much looked at that top 100 games thing from last year and asked whether I could see any of the results in question happening in a contest match. I was able to get call some upsets like Mass Effect > Galaxy 2 and DKC2 > Xenoblade that way.
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well, FF7 wins
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rest in peace CT
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MGS1 will be fine because the SOTC pic will remind them of this awesome MGS3/SOTC pic from GOTD

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-119-1.jpg

The man who makes the impossible possible
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LeonhartFour posted...
The man who makes the impossible possible


That's Big Boss in the pic, though. Not Solid Snake.
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you can't tell just from the silhouette...!
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Has Epona been in a contest yet? I feel like she really should have been already....
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She was in the 2013 Character Contest, and even won a battle.
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This is a pretty crazy result from SMRPG, although not one I would have thought impossible pre-contest - but GTAV being so decisively ahead of San Andreas is screwing with me. Darn you RacistFAQs

As for the question of SMRPG/Paper Mario, I'll fully believe in SMRPG when I finally see that final number posted on RE4. I don't necessarily see a problem with Paper Mario doing what SMRPG has done if their positions were swapped, though.

And RE4 looks fine to me today, but that's because I think MGS1 coasts through that quarterfinals match. It might have to put up with a bit of a scare today because of pics, but I have faith in its strength to pull through. The MGS3/ME2 pic turned what was probably a 50/50 match into something MGS3 takes without a problem now, albeit perhaps in a way similar to MGS3/Bioshock.
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Epona deserves another chance -- beating Ike like that is proof enough, plus GLaDOS really impressed that year too. If Epona wasn't dealing with LFF...well GLaDOS should win anyway, but I think Epona would have benefited a lot more in that match.

Just wait until Epona gets her Smash-debut.....
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Epona's big splash was not even to be able to pass 50% on absolute bottom feeders like Mordin and Niko - hard pass.
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I was bored and wanted to see what a bracket would look like based on The List. A game not listed auto loses, if both games are not listed then the higher seed wins.

Division 1

Wrong:
Persona 3 > DQVIII
The Last of Us > Kingdom Hearts II

Not bad, Dragon Quest VIII was not on the list. Division final is CT > SSBM

Division 2

Wrong:
Planescape: Torment > Super Smash Bros. 4
Planescape: Torment > Mass Effect

SSB4 wasn't released when the list was made so it auto loses. Division final is FFVII > FFVI

Division 3

Wrong:
Portal 2 > Sonic 2
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Pokemon RBY
Portal 2 > Uncharted 2
Fallout 3 > Undertale
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Portal 2
Super Mario World > Undertale

The list really drops the ball in this division, even ignoring Undertale. Funny enough Undertale wins the first round because Mass Effect 3 is not on the last. Division final is Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario World

Division 4

Wrong:
Diablo II > GoldenEye 007
Skies of Arcadia > LoZ: Twilight Princess
Final Fantasy Tactics > Super Mario 64
Persona 4 > Skies of Arcadia
Final Fantasy Tactics > Persona 4

The high ranking of Final Fantasy Tactics kills this division. Division final is Final Fantasy Tactics > Skyrim

Division 5

Wrong:
Baldur's Gate II > Banjo-Kazooie

Pretty good, it even predicts DKC2 winning its 4-pack despite newer games doing well on the list. Division final is LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Castlevania: SotN

Division 6

Wrong:
Deus Ex > Final Fantasy IV
Perfect Dark > Metal Gear Solid V
Bloodborne > Final Fantasy XII

MGSV, Bloodborne and FFXII weren't on the list so the only major mistake was Deus Ex winning. Division final is LoZ: Link to the Past > LoZ: Majora's Mask

Division 7

Wrong:
World of Warcraft > Chrono Cross
World of Warcraft > GTA: San Andreas
World of Warcraft > Super Mario RPG

Both Chrono Cross and Super Mario RPG are lowly ranked. To be fair GTA: San Andreas is tied with WoW, but I went with the higher seed. Division final is Resident Evil 4 > World of Warcraft

Division 8

Wrong:
None

So far we're perfect. The remaining matches are MGS > SotC, MGS3 > ME2 and MGS3 > MGS

Rest of the bracket

Chrono Trigger > Final Fantasy VII
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Final Fantasy Tactics
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > LoZ: Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 3 > Resident Evil 4

Chrono Trigger > Super Mario Bros. 3
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Metal Gear Solid 3

Chrono Trigger > LoZ: Ocarina of Time


A bracket would have 138 points, which isn't too bad considering what happened in division 3 and 4
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BGE3: Today's Matches SMRPG > Chrono Cross, RE4 > MGS2
Points 147/176
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HaRRicH posted...
Epona deserves another chance -- beating Ike like that is proof enough, plus GLaDOS really impressed that year too. If Epona wasn't dealing with LFF...well GLaDOS should win anyway, but I think Epona would have benefited a lot more in that match.

Just wait until Epona gets her Smash-debut.....


Is it bad that we, as a site, would let Link's ass cushion beat a decent amount of other characters?
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Karma Hunter posted...
As for the question of SMRPG/Paper Mario, I'll fully believe in SMRPG when I finally see that final number posted on RE4. I don't necessarily see a problem with Paper Mario doing what SMRPG has done if their positions were swapped, though.


RE4 60/40ing SMRPG would shock me at this point.

Resident Evil 4 – 50.00%
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty – 45.05%
Fallout: New Vegas – 41.89%
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt – 41.26%
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars – 41.13%
Paper Mario – 41.13%
Resident Evil – 38.96%
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion – 37.49%
BioShock Infinite – 36.92%
Grand Theft Auto V – 35.21%
Chrono Cross – 32.66%
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas – 29.51%
World of Warcraft – 27.39%
Shenmue – 26.51%
Shovel Knight – 22.85%
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth – 21.32%

I mean, there's no way that's right! In fact, all of these performances are making Paper Mario look pretty bad! It's behind Witcher 3 now! I wouldn't be surprised if TTYD > Paper Mario was true at this point.
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I'm glad this is taken as SMRPG beasting than CC flopping
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Also what does this match say about MGS2 vs. MGS3
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LongLiveraytan
For the record, SMRPG's current number on World of Warcraft projects a 59.26% win for SMRPG over Paper Mario.

That would project out to a 50.45% win for SMRPG over RE4 next round, by the way.
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pjbasis posted...
Also what does this match say about MGS2 vs. MGS3


If you think they're static from GOTD, it means MGS3 wins with something like 53-54%.

MGS2 doing so well on RE4 probably means good things for MGS3 if it is stronger because I'd still take RE4 > ME2 at this point.
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Witcher 3 > Paper Mario isn't right, but it doesn't have to be. Witcher 3's number is obviously inflated by all of the desperate rallying going on that day. The rest of the numbers I can see happening.

I mean, I obviously am not gonna be shocked if SMRPG turns out to be the strongest Mario RPG game now by a long shot, but I know better than to get my hopes up at this stage.
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How big of an inflation are we talking here? Rallying is going to be part of the game at this point, so I don't know if I'd hold that against Witcher 3. Either way, MGS2 cleanly beats Paper Mario and New Vegas gives it a fight. That's not "strongest Mario RPG" to me.
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So Mario rpg is the favorite over RE 4?
*sad face*
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Safer_777 posted...
So Mario rpg is the favorite over RE 4?
*sad face*


Ehhhhhh

At this point, I think it's a tossup. Either game could win.

Should be interesting to see how big of a lead SMRPG jumps out to at the start.
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Well, I wouldn't have necessarily predicted MGS2/New Vegas to do what they're expected to do against Paper Mario, but the numbers are what they are. Not convinced they wouldn't do the same to SMRPG. It's had a really soft path up to now, perhaps Oblivion notwithstanding.

And... it was a lot of rallying. People were trying to trigger a rally sufficient to get Witcher 3 to the finals, and between all of the activity just I spotted on the Witcher reddit, twitter, Facebook all throughout the day, it was pretty obviously substantial.

I don't know what that makes the day's numbers look like, though I'd expect some rallying would be masked by these games not being good vote draws (see: today).
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I'd be kind of surprised if they did. Oblivion is a lot better than anything in RE4's half of the division except MGS2.
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Well, I actively welcome if SMRPG can hang as high as people are thinking. I like RE4, but SMRPG is easily my preference in Division 7 and even Div 7/8 aside from MGS1 and maybe ME2. SMRPG/ME2 would be one heck of a difficult choice for me.

...which hopefully I won't have to make this contest!
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Man did Oblivion really get that much on WW I don't even remember that

...well that makes SMRPG either look a lot more studly than I thought or makes FFVI look like a chump. And either way kind of suggests that Skyrim would beat Wind Waker and give FFVI a fight!
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Using Morrowind's ratio to Oblivion from GOTD suggests that...

Oblivion and Skyrim are practically equals, so uhhh I don't know what to make of that

Morrowind did do a decent bit better on Prime than it was projected to do in GOTD and then Prime went neck and neck with Skyrim so who knows
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All the stats predict SMRPG to be the slight favorite over RE4 next round. Still a tossup match but yeah.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Skyrim is not equal to Oblivion, it's not even close. Skyrim > Oblivion is about as much of a lock as you can get in terms of series hierarchy. I'm going to suggest that this may be one of the few rare instances where the GOTD stats have failed us. :(
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Play FF 7 remake I suggest!
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Well, I have a hard time imagining Prime beating Wind Waker (although Super Metroid did almost beat Majora), so at the very least, the gap shouldn't be that large.

Either that, or Oblivion somehow got weaker while Morrowind got stronger...?

Or just a fluke, who knows.
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