Januzaj_Dragon posted...
I think SM is a lot better than SV even today due to AM's somewhat very Obtuse game design.


Did you just mess up Axiom Verge's acronym in two different ways, or do SV and AM stand for something else?
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So if LTTP goes higher on MM than OOT got against Suikoden II.....
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was that MM spike just a rally? or is this a counterrally? what is even going on in this match
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If LttP/MM ends up as something other than a 60-40 split, I'll be shocked.
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MechanicalWall posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
I think SM is a lot better than SV even today due to AM's somewhat very Obtuse game design.


Did you just mess up Axiom Verge's acronym in two different ways, or do SV and AM stand for something else?


AV. Typo.
Well, would you expect LTTP to SFF Super Metroid or MM harder?
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red sox 777 posted...
So if LTTP goes higher on MM than OOT got against Suikoden II.....


Unlike FFVI/FFVII(in polls) theres no evidence LttP is even remotely close to OoT. Indirectly in this contest OoT wins probably 55 or below which is my prediction. OoT 5 years ago doubles Lttp with ease if you factor in SFF. But this is SNESFaqs
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MM didn't save us from anything, because FFX was quite capable of beating Brawl. MM had to rally harder to beat FFX than it did Brawl.

We'll never know for sure but there isn't much reason to think Brawl>FFX would've been probable. Quite possible, but not probable.

And Majora was a highly unworthy GOTD title holder. Brawl would've been worse, but MM was not worthy of that.

MM "saving" us is a poor narrative IMO.
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red sox 777 posted...
Well, would you expect LTTP to SFF Super Metroid or MM harder?


Probably the same. MM has rSFF going for it.
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
more 2D metroid games should have been made anyway. Just Nintendo being f***ing lazy like they are these days. We got a ton of incredibly well made 2D Castlevania games post SOTN(Order is actually my fav).


We had two excellent game on the GBA, then Nintendo decided to just stick with 3D games for whatever reason. Yeah, there should have probably been a 2D Metroid on DS, Nintendo probably just thought it wasn't worth it.

Although I actually kinda enjoyed that one game that came out after the Prime Trilogy was finished...come at me guys.
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red sox 777 posted...
Well, would you expect LTTP to SFF Super Metroid or MM harder?

SM due to generational SFF, but who knows? We can't ever know.
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Well, would you expect LTTP to SFF Super Metroid or MM harder?


Probably the same. MM has rSFF going for it.

Are you being facetious...?
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creativename posted...
MM didn't save us from anything, because FFX was quite capable of beating Brawl. MM had to rally harder to beat FFX than it did Brawl.

We'll never know for sure but there isn't much reason to think Brawl>FFX would've been probable. Quite possible, but not probable.

And Majora was a highly unworthy GOTD title holder. Brawl would've been worse, but MM was not worthy of that.

MM "saving" us is a poor narrative IMO.


How exactly is Majora's Mask a poor GOTD candidate? MM is at least not as divisive as Brawl and FFX, and Smash in general doesn't feel like GOTD material (maybe Melee but even that's a bit of a stretch).
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creativename posted...
And Majora was a highly unworthy GOTD title holder.


The absolute truth. As good as it and FFIX are, they had no reason to even be in that contest.
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creativename posted...
MM didn't save us from anything, because FFX was quite capable of beating Brawl. MM had to rally harder to beat FFX than it did Brawl.

We'll never know for sure but there isn't much reason to think Brawl>FFX would've been probable. Quite possible, but not probable.

And Majora was a highly unworthy GOTD title holder. Brawl would've been worse, but MM was not worthy of that.

MM "saving" us is a poor narrative IMO.


Hey man if FFX would have gone on to win then fair enough.

Also don't bring in opinions about what is worthy of being GOTD. Some of the best games that decade didn't even get past the 3rd round. FFX wouldn't have been a worthy GOTD winner at all. I would have given it to a Metroid Prime, RE4, SMG or a Shadow of the Colossus over FFX and MM. But it's all opinions.

But at least FFX and MM and a ton of other games have a dedicated fanbases and are somewhat timeless games people will talk about in the future and feel passionately about. Brawl is just a flavour of the generation Smash game that will get beaten by the next one.

The fact that it wasn't even nominated in this contest shows how awful it would have been if it had won. I cna name 60 games that decade that deserves it more. Credit to Majora for getting the job done.
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MM was a perfect winner for an unworthy contest, the voters refusing to crown a game of the decade for 2000-2009 when intergenerational matches had never been permitted until the semifinals previously. Nothing from the 00s is worthy of bring a contest champion when so many 90s games are stronger but would never get a chance to win one. So, the voters crowned a 90s N64 Zelda to demonstrate their disapproval of the whole generation of games. I like this narrative anyway.
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red sox 777 posted...
MM was a perfect winner for an unworthy contest, the voters refusing to crown a game of the decade for 2000-2009 when intergenerational matches had never been permitted until the semifinals previously. Nothing from the 00s is worthy of bring a contest champion when so many 90s games are stronger but would never get a chance to win one. So, the voters crowned a 90s N64 Zelda to demonstrate their disapproval of the whole generation of games. I like this narrative anyway.


I honestly think Melee would have won that contest had it beaten Brawl. The Brawl Antivoting was clear for everyone to see after that. And I commend the site for going against that garbage.
red sox 777 posted...
MM was a perfect winner for an unworthy contest, the voters refusing to crown a game of the decade for 2000-2009 when intergenerational matches had never been permitted until the semifinals previously. Nothing from the 00s is worthy of bring a contest champion when so many 90s games are stronger but would never get a chance to win one. So, the voters crowned a 90s N64 Zelda to demonstrate their disapproval of the whole generation of games. I like this narrative anyway.


All they showed is that gamers play less games as they grow up
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red sox 777 posted...
So, the voters crowned a 90s N64 Zelda to demonstrate their disapproval of the whole generation of games. I like this narrative anyway.


That sounds like the exact narrative that people make fun of GameFaqs for. Nothing actually made with 2000s consoles and sensibilities is worthy of the title?
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
red sox 777 posted...
MM was a perfect winner for an unworthy contest, the voters refusing to crown a game of the decade for 2000-2009 when intergenerational matches had never been permitted until the semifinals previously. Nothing from the 00s is worthy of bring a contest champion when so many 90s games are stronger but would never get a chance to win one. So, the voters crowned a 90s N64 Zelda to demonstrate their disapproval of the whole generation of games. I like this narrative anyway.


All they showed is that gamers play less games as they grow up


or that those newer games don't grab them as much and when you play games as a child it will always tug on your heartstrings more.
that said, Chrono Trigger is the GOAT video game, so lets do this
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MechanicalWall posted...
red sox 777 posted...
So, the voters crowned a 90s N64 Zelda to demonstrate their disapproval of the whole generation of games. I like this narrative anyway.


That sounds like the exact narrative that people make fun of GameFaqs for. Nothing actually made with 2000s consoles and sensibilities is worthy of the title?


Yeah pretty much, that was on the level of a post that tumblr would quote to show everyone how ridiculous and out-of-touch GameFAQs is
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
It has some truth though! GameFAQs IS frozen in time.
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That's not a good thing!
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
MM has started another charge.

Still really impressed that SM stopped the bleeding though. It drops a 45% hour and then starts fighting back? Like I said this match is completely defying trends. This is exciting.
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There can be substantial variation, even at the hourly level. Also, traditionally the 5 pm hour is the soft lull in the ASV, as the mountain time zone has fewer voters. Next up at 6 is the West Coast ASV, which is traditionally powerful.
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This match is very clearly not defying trends, unless you're not talking about historically and only talking about the context of the contest. There was a hugely obvious morning vote, which Metroid does well with. There was an ASV right on time, which seems to be ebbing and flowing in a way you'd expect of a traditional ASV.

If there ends up being a SNV, it'll be trends the whole way through. The fact that it's two Nintendo games is gonna mute things, but they seem to be here today.
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MechanicalWall posted...
red sox 777 posted...
So, the voters crowned a 90s N64 Zelda to demonstrate their disapproval of the whole generation of games. I like this narrative anyway.


That sounds like the exact narrative that people make fun of GameFaqs for. Nothing actually made with 2000s consoles and sensibilities is worthy of the title?


One of my favorite games of all time is DQ8 and the 2000's is where I did a lot of single player games so despite being introduced to gaming via n64, I am not blind to the merits of the 2000's era.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Is California gonna stab Samus in the back I am excited to see this


Are the high school students even out yet in California? Or is this just a lunch time rush for them(workers in California)?
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Karma Hunter posted...
This match is very clearly not defying trends, unless you're not talking about historically and only talking about the context of the contest. There was a hugely obvious morning vote, which Metroid does well with. There was an ASV right on time, which seems to be ebbing and flowing in a way you'd expect of a traditional ASV.

If there ends up being a SNV, it'll be trends the whole way through. The fact that it's two Nintendo games is gonna mute things, but they seem to be here today.


You see exchanging of blows almost every single hour. There is very little variation. There was a small ASV, then Metroid fought back, now MM is charging again.

Source on Super Metroid morning vote? Do we have full hour breakdowns of its previous matches? Because I think I last saw it was at around 78-79% almost all day on COD4 and then little variation on SMG as well. Anybody have that readily available?
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Ouch. Yeah I think this match is done. The plucky underdogs win yet again.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
You have an incorrect grasp of how the ASV works.

As for the previous matches, yes, this match is very different from the other ones, because there's trends in it. Look back at Metroid historically, however, and this match is hardly out of line with Samus or its games.
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That Chrono Cross pic is literally the same pic it's been using, but zoomed in.

Wut
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MGS's pic is underwhelming, but it should be okay with it. MGS3's is wonderful.

FFVI/FFVII... doesn't feel like it's up to the task of such a big clash.
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Karma Hunter posted...
You have an incorrect grasp of how the ASV works.

As for the previous matches, yes, this match is very different from the other ones, because there's trends in it. Look back at Metroid historically, however, and this match is hardly out of line with Samus or its games.


What match, specifically? For Super Metroid. Because it clearly has a different trend from Prime (at least this year). Not sure about Samus, but again comparing against previous years seems ripe for error when we have data points from this year.
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MGS1's pic is really nostalgic and cool to me. You people have such high pic standards.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
MGS3 has a huge advantage in picture if you ask me... I love both games and that ME2 pic is like wut? Not iconic at all.
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Super Metroid by the hour:

| TIME | PERCENTAGE | VOTES | LEAD |
| 00:00-01:00 | 49.43% | -63 | -63 |
| 01:00-02:00 | 50.29% | +18 | -45 |
| 02:00-03:00 | 51.29% | +62 | +17 |
| 03:00-04:00 | 49.23% | -29 | -12 |
| 04:00-05:00 | 50.19% | +6 | -6 |
| 05:00-06:00 | 49.37% | -18 | -24 |
| 06:00-07:00 | 52.13% | +74 | +50 |
| 07:00-08:00 | 49.74% | -11 | +39 |
| 08:00-09:00 | 53.31% | +161 | +200 |
| 09:00-10:00 | 51.51% | +74 | +274 |
| 10:00-11:00 | 49.79% | -10 | +264 |
| 11:00-12:00 | 50.16% | +7 | +271 |
| 12:00-13:00 | 49.69% | -13 | +258 |
| 13:00-14:00 | 49.15% | -32 | +226 |
| 14:00-15:00 | 48.77% | -45 | +181 |
| 15:00-16:00 | 45.51% | -179 | +2 |
| 16:00-17:00 | 47.14% | -102 | -100 |
| 17:00-18:00 | 47.19% | -102 | -202 |
KamikazePotato posted...
MGS1's pic is really nostalgic and cool to me. You people have such high pic standards.


It's not that it's a bad pic or anything, but look how f***ing awesome Shadow of the Colossus' picture is.
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ME2's pic is not that great. Nobody likes the game for Harbinger, there should've been like at least one single squadmate in there.

That said it won't effect the results, so whatever.
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dat CT pic though
three more hours of pain

FF6 wins
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well I came back from work to MM winning by 100

This contest LOL
MGS1 is the best pic.

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