MM stalling and slowly chipping away at the lead.

This is going to be a nailbiter
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sharp.
distance.
MM probably overperformed a little, but not much. SNES is just god tier this contest.

LTTP could honestly beat OoT and it wouldn't shock me.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Until Europe goes to sleep and seals Majora's doom I'm sure it will be
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
This match ends when UK goes to bed
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I like how Wind Waker delivered the only impressive Zelda performance this round.

To be fair if you set FFX equal to Majora's Mask, Super Metroid gets like 56% on Mega Man X. Would people really have been surprised by that even going off of pre-contest expectations?

Of course this just predicts FFVI to be in real trouble...but then FFVII couldn't double a Wii U game so I doubt it's much better off. Then again this match makes Galaxy look better, which makes Galaxy 2 look better, which makes Mass Effect look better...well.
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To the rest of the Anglosphere:

Thanks for fighting the good fight for Majora's Mask. Sorry we in North America failed you!
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raytan is the guru champ, yo yo yo
He won it in the year of the draggy crow
If the British wanted us to vote Majora's Mask they shouldn't have gotten their asses kicked all those years ago.

America, f*** Yeah.
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RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :(
You've got a point, actually!
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raytan is the guru champ, yo yo yo
He won it in the year of the draggy crow
Today's four combatants are the toughest decision yet. Four of my favorite games of all time in the same bracket. Oh my.
typing on a phone so I can't go into the detail that I want. here goes though

if Majora overperformed that just says that CT's performance is that much more insane.

if Majora SFF'd WW then FF6 is just gross.

I have a hard time believing that CT and FF6 are going in opposite directions. that's an assumption but not one I'll let go without more proof.

the other option is that FF across the board is just blah. I can get behind an underperformance by 6/7/8/10. FF9 is a real thorn though. Ocarina sucks!

don't blow this Super Metroid
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We fought for the right to Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit Of Voting For Tall Blonde Robot Women Who Can't Crawl Over Stupid Girly Elfboys, and we prevailed.
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RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :(
I think it's kind of hard to say that FFVII has been underperforming.
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MM still in the race
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How many different kinds of game have been underperforming all contest anyway?
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
How many different kinds of game have been underperforming all contest anyway?


I was thinking this too. It seems like almost every game with a few exceptions like CT has underperformed. The playing field in general seems a lot more even.
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FFVII looked pretty decent right up until the Smash 4 match. If you think Smash franchise voting justifies its performance, that could be okay, but that's also giving a lot of credit to Mass Effect and Super Mario Galaxy 2.

...this match today though could mean good things for Super Mario Galaxy. I'll say this though, if you expect the Mass Effect series to be capable of that kind of power you should have faith in ME2 to blow MGS3 away in a couple of days.
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
TP got what, like 62% on Galaxy?

I've never bought the Majora overperformance on FFX but I do believe in it for Brawl. Brawl got what, like 53% on TP? I wonder if TP is actually the third strongest Zelda.
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CT is definitely above the pace. Wind Waker performed like a stud in every one of its matches. KH2, surprisingly, has beaten expectations in every match I think. Super Metroid is obvious. Final Fantasy IX too unless Ocarina isn't even a Top Three game anymore. Skyrim/Metroid Prime maybe, though I'd like to have seen how the whole pack matches up with SM64 in a vacuum. Still, can't take away from those Goldeneye/Half-Life 2 wins.
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
transcience posted...
TP got what, like 62% on Galaxy?

I've never bought the Majora overperformance on FFX but I do believe in it for Brawl. Brawl got what, like 53% on TP? I wonder if TP is actually the third strongest Zelda.


Galaxy got SFFd by TP. That's pretty much indisputable at this point - it performed like 8% better on Dragon Age than it was expected to this year.

(And no, I don't think Super Metroid SFFd Galaxy. Different scenarios.)
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
I like how Wind Waker delivered the only impressive Zelda performance this round.

To be fair if you set FFX equal to Majora's Mask, Super Metroid gets like 56% on Mega Man X. Would people really have been surprised by that even going off of pre-contest expectations?

Of course this just predicts FFVI to be in real trouble...but then FFVII couldn't double a Wii U game so I doubt it's much better off. Then again this match makes Galaxy look better, which makes Galaxy 2 look better, which makes Mass Effect look better...well.


Except LttP and Twilight Princess did just fine, the latter which you mentioned yourself earlier in the topic.
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Also, I'll call it here and now - if Super Metroid makes it through this match, it's punching LttP in the mouth and avoids the doubling at the least. It'll still get SFFed (...I think), but between it finally living up to its pedigree here and ZeldaAntiVoteFAQs I don't see anything resembling a repeat of their 2004 match.
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
And yeah I think more than OoT is getting antivoted. Like I said, I'm real down on FFVI. :(
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Hmm...just looked at the stats, and they shake out to something like this:

Dark Souls was projected to get 32.70% against 2010 MM (around the same strength level as Chrono Cross and San Andreas)

With that in mind, after today, LTTP is projected to get 53.43% against MM.

I doubt MM or SM have a shot of winning next round, but even after SFF they might look respectable.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I'll one up you there. SM might break 45%.
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iphonesience
what the what

i love this result but man GotD was a joke huh
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
How many different kinds of game have been underperforming all contest anyway?


It just seems like everything from the Gamecube/PS2 generation onwards has really dropped in value significantly. MM already beat pretty much everything from that generation+ in the GoTD contest and nothing that has come out since 2010+ is likely capable of competing (except lolrallyundertale).

Even if MM comes back to win this, it still likely projects Super Metroid above everything on Gamecube/PS2 onwards besides maybe Melee.

The strength is definitely 4th and 5th generation.

Also, I wouldn't really consider OoT vs FF9 an indicator of doom.

Based on 09 data: FF9 was projected to put 44% on KH, and KH 47% on FFX.
Instead we saw FF9 actually BEAT KH straight up, so assuming a constant FFX, FF9 is already 47% on it.

BUT, we also saw FFX look bad in the matches even leading up to CT (namely doing way worse on MMX than expected), so it has dropped as well. FF9 vs FFX is probably pretty close to 50/50 now.

Considering that CT and OoT put up about comparable #s on FF9 and FFX, but CT likely benefitted from some square SFF. I still don't think CT looks strong enough to beat OoT.
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Also, with this result in mind LTTP is expected to get like...46% against FF7.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
This match is defying trends. MM could jump back up at any moment. SM could pull away at any moment. This is great. It's just a slugfest.

Only trend I can see is very very VERY slight favourability for SM in North America so SM could finish this off when Europe goes to bed.
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transcience posted...
I'll one up you there. SM might break 45%.


It's like 2004 all over again for tranman
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1639-division-16-round-2-the-legend-of-zelda-a-link-to-the-past

For his sake, it had better not be 2004 all over again
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I wonder if Quebec going to bed will make up for Europe going to bed.

Western Canada favours MM a lot more.

California is huge and favours SM though.
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Link versus Cloud posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
How many different kinds of game have been underperforming all contest anyway?


It just seems like everything from the Gamecube/PS2 generation onwards has really dropped in value significantly. MM already beat pretty much everything from that generation+ in the GoTD contest and nothing that has come out since 2010+ is likely capable of competing (except lolrallyundertale).

Even if MM comes back to win this, it still likely projects Super Metroid above everything on Gamecube/PS2 onwards besides maybe Melee.

The strength is definitely 4th and 5th generation.

Also, I wouldn't really consider OoT vs FF9 an indicator of doom.

Based on 09 data: FF9 was projected to put 44% on KH, and KH 47% on FFX.
Instead we saw FF9 actually BEAT KH straight up, so assuming a constant FFX, FF9 is already 47% on it.

BUT, we also saw FFX look bad in the matches even leading up to CT (namely doing way worse on MMX than expected), so it has dropped as well. FF9 vs FFX is probably pretty close to 50/50 now.

Considering that CT and OoT put up about comparable #s on FF9 and FFX, but CT likely benefitted from some square SFF. I still don't think CT looks strong enough to beat OoT.


So this ridiculous series of stretches requires KH to have not dropped one bit since 2009 and FF9 = FF10 eh

have fun with those
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The_Ctes posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
I like how Wind Waker delivered the only impressive Zelda performance this round.

To be fair if you set FFX equal to Majora's Mask, Super Metroid gets like 56% on Mega Man X. Would people really have been surprised by that even going off of pre-contest expectations?

Of course this just predicts FFVI to be in real trouble...but then FFVII couldn't double a Wii U game so I doubt it's much better off. Then again this match makes Galaxy look better, which makes Galaxy 2 look better, which makes Mass Effect look better...well.


Except LttP and Twilight Princess did just fine, the latter which you mentioned yourself earlier in the topic.


I dunno if failing to break 70% on a game released four years ago is "fine" considering everything we've seen but yeah I'll give you that one.

Didn't we note that TP's loss is the worst ever loss suffered by a Zelda game 1-on-1? Otherwise TP didn't look half-bad yeah, and TBH if the entire GOTD field is "overrated" then Mario 64 isn't looking too good. Not like Mario has exactly been a stud this contest.

Kinda weird to see what we thought were two of the stronger Zelda games lose to games in less popular Nintendo franchises, but then again Mario 64 and Super Metroid are defining games in their series, Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask (much?) less so. To be fair for a lot of younger gamers TP and MM are probably defining entries in the Zelda franchise but then again this site doesn't seem to skew younger.
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Yeah seriously

Everyone knows that FF9>FF10!
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
God I can't wait for the next couple weeks so we can put these projections to bed. I personally think these underperforming games will step it up when it counts but there is definitely uncertainty.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
I dunno if failing to break 70% on a game released four years ago is "fine" considering everything we've seen but yeah I'll give you that one


LTTP will end up with 70%, if it has the same trends as OOT
And it's an amazing performance, Dark Souls is not some unknown fodder
Is it as impressive as 65% on FFX? no, of course not
But this is a scary performance, LTTP is a top 5 game in contest strength
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They really won't be fully put to bed. CT/Melee should answer a lot of questions but if CT blows it out of the water there's a slight possibility it's because Melee just sucks now (55% on KH2 is not elite tier). SM64/Skyrim is doomed for tumblr pollution. OoT has cupcakes (LttP aside) until the finals. LttP has cupcakes (assuming SM doesn't go screwy) until OoT. And we'll never be able to truly unify things because there's an Undertale in the way.
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Funny, with so many chances to have two games from the same series facing each other, we might only have FFVII/FFVI
I am not even sure both MGS will advance to the next round
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Oh, and of course CT/FF7 (FF6 is doooooooooooooomed) is also ruined.
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
you're underselling the rest of the contest. FF6/7 and OOT/LTTP are big matches. CT/FF7 will be polluted but the opening percentages usually give us at least a clue. div 7/8 will be clean. we've got some stuff to look at still.
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Save my Chrono Trigger/FF7 match please Pokemon.
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If there's any opening percentage that I would never, ever, even remotely trust, it would be CT/FF7. OoT/LttP and FFVII/FFVI are interesting on paper but I'd be shocked if the underdogs came even remotely close in those. Div 7/8 doesn't have any real heavy hitters unless UnderperformanceFAQs is a real thing and MGS/RE4 step it up.

As far as validating the top dogs relative to each other, there aren't a lot of opportunities to do that anymore.
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Plus, FF7 could lay the SFF hammer down hard on FFVI and still not be a Top Three game anymore. OoT could struggle to break 55% on LttP and still be our #1 game. Those matches don't tell me much.
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
I think LTTP could hang decently in its match against Ocarina.
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MM showing some fight!
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distance.
come on SM finish this don't let a Zelda game hang around

Zelda doesn't cheat because it never has to but it absolutely can
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Lots of Mario games have been released the past few years, yet Mario games consistently bomb all contest.

Metal Gear Solid V just came out, yet that series has looked to have lost a step.

Final Fantasy X just got an HD remaster, but looks much weaker this contest.

Majora's Mask just got a 3DS remake, but looks weaker this contest.

Meanwhile there hasn't been a new Metroid in half a decade and yet that series has done really well.

And Samus was one of the few Noble Niners who showed no obvious signs of decline last contest, with one of the others being Mega Man.

It is confirmed: GameFAQs actively hates anything relating to new releases.
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MM's been playing this footsie all day. All it's doing is setting itself up for heartbreak as the SNV approaches.

EIGHT HOURS REMAIN
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Goddamn Ocarina of Time
Karma Hunter posted...
They really won't be fully put to bed. CT/Melee should answer a lot of questions but if CT blows it out of the water there's a slight possibility it's because Melee just sucks now (55% on KH2 is not elite tier). SM64/Skyrim is doomed for tumblr pollution. OoT has cupcakes (LttP aside) until the finals. LttP has cupcakes (assuming SM doesn't go screwy) until OoT. And we'll never be able to truly unify things because there's an Undertale in the way.


A couple weeks = end of the contest. That's what I meant, sorry for the confusion.
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Also looks like it has now become a trend for any game that upsets Brawl to lose in Round 3 of next games contest.
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