LordoftheMorons posted...
Pretty sure SM was just secretly legit given its other performances this contest.

Yes but the Mario Kart match did happen. Do you mean SM is legit this contest specifically?

I do think it can do better vs. LttP than in the past.

But unless something was up with the entire GOTD, MM or both I don't know if this result should be possible.

ZFS posted...
Chrono Trigger might be holding the most overrated title of the contest right now. Let's see it against real, elite competition that isn't also a RPG. Melee is its first shot at showing it's actually what people think it is. FF10? Not even close!

Melee may expose it as a fraud but it's had three rounds of consistent results. FFX is pretty damn legit and "isn't also an RPG" is kind of an after the fact rationalization.
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TheKoolAidShoto posted...
The only most overrated game here in OoT, and I can't wait to see it exposed

Did FFIX not accomplish this?
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Okay so I guess Majora has to have started pulling away by now, wonder how bad this is

...

WHAT
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I'm just saying I want to see it against something elite that isn't from its own company before crowning it as the champion (that isn't Undertale). I think CT is good for top 5, but I wanna see real competition! CT definitely beat FF10 by more than I expected, but it winning without a problem was one of the easiest pre-contest decisions I made! Melee's a good chance to see something legit, Mario World would have been the real deal.
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At this point Chrono Trigger has to be overrated, it's 60/40 the entire bracket right now.
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: LttP > MGSV, LoZ: MM > SMG
Points 139/168
Majora's Mask was leading by one vote
Went to play Starcraft
Came back two hours later
274 lead
What just happened, is this a rally (which would be impossible) or US waking up and burying MM?
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LttP got most of its support from Europe along with the Philippines and Oceania.

Canada has been slowly trending towards Super Metroid and could possibly flip before this is over.

Edit: In fact it is now 50/50 in Canada
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Just saw the updates.

SM looked in a bad spot after the second update, and wasn't able to do much until the latter part of the Power Hour.

It was even the underdog well into the start of the match!
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charmander6000 posted...
LttP got most of its support from Europe along with the Philippines and Oceania.

Canada has been slowly trending towards Super Metroid and could possibly flip before this is over.

Edit: In fact it is now 50/50 in Canada


LTTP or MM?
Well, the entire North American continent is now SM
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LTTP or MM?

>_>

It's Zelda, they're basically the same game

/drones
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: LttP > MGSV, LoZ: MM > SMG
Points 139/168
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wtf is quebec having a major sm rally or something?
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I don't think the N64 was as big in Quebec relative to the rest of Canada where it was almost equal to the Playstation in terms of sales.
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ: LttP > MGSV, LoZ: MM > SMG
Points 139/168
So when I left MM was winning with 1 vote. Let us see now...
*Checks poll*
Damn! What happened? SM has this,since it is winning easily in Canada and in USA. Did anyone expected that?
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charmander6000 posted...
I don't think the N64 was as big in Quebec relative to the rest of Canada where it was almost equal to the Playstation in terms of sales.


I'm from QC, and all my friend had a PS1 instead of N64...
Oh wow, Super Metroid pulling away. This is great. Finally an upset I can get behind. Too bad LttP is going to brutalize Metroid next round.
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creativename posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Pretty sure SM was just secretly legit given its other performances this contest.

Yes but the Mario Kart match did happen. Do you mean SM is legit this contest specifically?

I do think it can do better vs. LttP than in the past.

But unless something was up with the entire GOTD, MM or both I don't know if this result should be


Yes, Super Metroid is legit! Super Mario Kart is also legit! That is probably the strongest SNES game that missed the contest. At this point in the contest, I don't understand how anyone can be surprised by SNES domination anymore. The SNES games are clearly on another level here.

At this point, does anyone here really think Super Mario RPG doesn't take an easy win over Chrono Cross tomorrow? I will be shocked if Chrono Cross finishes above 45%.
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Only 8 Gurus had Super Metroid winning! That is Undertale prediction there!
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this is weirdly similar to Skyrim/Prime

only Majora is Prime
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Chrono Cross never had a chance against SMRPG, this just solidifies things.

People keep bringing up the Mario Kart match, but I never understood why everyone thought SMK was so weak. Granted I never thought Metroid's path was even worth debating (get to this match and lose easily to Majora), but I was absolutely floored that the vast majority of the board had it losing to Mario Galaxy of all things.

Insanity.
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cyko, everyone already had SMRPG over 55% in the Oracle. Chrono Cross isn't strong.

charmander6000 posted...
LTTP or MM?

>_>

It's Zelda, they're basically the same game

/drones

Drones are why this match is even close! SM is easily the superior game.

Drones may also possibly have created a fraudulent Majora in GOTD. That theory should gain some traction now.

Also if there's ever been a contest where LttP could stand up to OoT it's this one. There should be some SFF but it might be very minor.
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I picked it to beat Mario but I didn't think it had much of a chance here.

Don't even mind for my bracket either, basically nobody at the top has this upset.

I don't even think this is necessarily SNES boost.... Super Metroid is just a lot more legit than people think. I would argue we'd see this result in a lot of core gaming communities with older demographics.
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Majora just cut about 70 votes in 20 minutes. Maybe this is the Zelda day vote arriving.
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creativename posted...
cyko, everyone already had SMRPG over 55% in the Oracle. Chrono Cross isn't strong.



Hmmm... maybe it was just people overreacting for fun rather than being serious, but I DO recall a few people discussing Chrono Cross over SMRPG because they would take GTA:SA over GTAV.

Ok, so how crazy is SMRPG > RE4? I do think that can also happen at this point. I am not so sure about SMRPG > MGS, but if SMRPG made the Final Four, that would actually redeem this contest a little.
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Man, I was afraid of this. There's basically no day vote if you don't count "OoT not getting antivoted" as a day vote. MM is running out of time. It won't beat SM's SNV.
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I kind of agree with HM. CT has beaten my prediction by 0-3% in the Oracle all three matches so far, so its results were not that unexpected. Two of its opponents were Square-Enix RPGs, and it crushed them, as one would think it might.

I think it'll probably crush Melee with not too much less than it got against FFX, but given the amount of people treating CT/OOT as almost an easy win for CT now, it might have become "overrated" already.
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cyko posted...
creativename posted...
cyko, everyone already had SMRPG over 55% in the Oracle. Chrono Cross isn't strong.



Hmmm... maybe it was just people overreacting for fun rather than being serious, but I DO recall a few people discussing Chrono Cross over SMRPG because they would take GTA:SA over GTAV.

Ok, so how crazy is SMRPG > RE4? I do think that can also happen at this point. I am not so sure about SMRPG > MGS, but if SMRPG made the Final Four, that would actually redeem this contest a little.


Super Metroid has looked like a monster ever since the COD4 match, even though it was hard to take it seriously then.

SMRPG has looked pretty meh. 54% on Oblivion. 56% on GTAV. It'll beat CC (...probably) but it's 99.9% dead in the water against RE4.
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Super Metroid by the hour:

| TIME | PERCENTAGE | VOTES |
| 1:00 | 49.43% | -63 |
| 2:00 | 50.29% | +18 |
| 3:00 | 51.29% | +62 |
| 4:00 | 49.23% | -29 |
| 5:00 | 50.19% | +6 |
| 6:00 | 49.37% | -18 |
| 7:00 | 52.13% | +74 |
| 8:00 | 49.74% | -11 |
| 9:00 | 53.31% | +161 |
| 10:00 | 51.51% | +74 |
| 11:00 | 49.79% | -10 |

These are the most back and forth trends ever. Hard to find any pattern here.
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Also it took until a few hours ago, but there's a reddit rally up for Majora's Mask. r/Zelda's not that big, though.

There's also a /v/ rally up... for Dark Souls.
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I think the rallying for Dark Souls is probably screwing with the trends a little for the other match.
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Why is there so much rallying for a game getting obliterated 70/30
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Dark Souls fans are super-dedicated to their game!

Dark Souls trained them well for this, too. Overwhelmingly losing just means they think they need to GIT GUD so they're giving it all they've got!
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Karma Hunter posted...
Why is there so much rallying for a game getting obliterated 70/30


Oh, I don't know... maybe you should ask Undertale...

After 55 minutes -

Fallout 3 - 70.19% - 3031
Undertale - 29.81% - 1287
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And as we all know, rallies like Undertale's are a dime a dozen
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I think people are going to overanalyze this match when basically what it boils down to is this:

1. Its consistent with prior 2015 results. MM looked static through Valkyria Chronicles, and Super Metroid looked about this strong through Dragon Age.
2. Both Super Metroid and Metroid Prime are better than they were in 2009.
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Karma Hunter posted...
cyko posted...
creativename posted...
cyko, everyone already had SMRPG over 55% in the Oracle. Chrono Cross isn't strong.



Hmmm... maybe it was just people overreacting for fun rather than being serious, but I DO recall a few people discussing Chrono Cross over SMRPG because they would take GTA:SA over GTAV.

Ok, so how crazy is SMRPG > RE4? I do think that can also happen at this point. I am not so sure about SMRPG > MGS, but if SMRPG made the Final Four, that would actually redeem this contest a little.


Super Metroid has looked like a monster ever since the COD4 match, even though it was hard to take it seriously then.

SMRPG has looked pretty meh. 54% on Oblivion. 56% on GTAV. It'll beat CC (...probably) but it's 99.9% dead in the water against RE4.


Fun Fact: Based on GOTD, RE4 is expected to get 56% on Oblivion if you assume there was no SFF between Majora's Mask and Wind Waker.

If you assume there was no SFF between Majora's Mask and Wind Waker, either Majora's Mask has fallen off a cliff (unlikely given its other performances), Wind Waker has boosted a ton (also unlikely), or Super Metroid wipes the floor with FFVI.
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MM modestly overperformed in its last two matches. That... isn't really something I doubt anymore.

In any event, I don't think RE4 would struggle with Oblivion. I doubt Oblivion can even beat New Vegas or Paper Mario, so SMRPG is in a deep deep deep hole. I certainly don't think GTAV can beat either of those two games.
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Super Metroid is probably stronger than it used to be but I'd also guess Mario Kart overperforms in non-1-on-1 polls.

And you know what other game also looks pretty good now if Super Metroid has always been an elite game or close to it?

Sonic 3.

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Honestly I'll be pretty stunned if SMRPG can beat Paper Mario's number, though hopefully it can set to draw the match closer due to it being a late round maybe? I've never wavered from Paper Mario being the stronger game here even though it sucks.

Heck, SMRPG is my favorite game in this division!
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Oblivion beat a Paper Mario game just last contest
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AxemRedRanger posted...
Dark Souls fans are super-dedicated to their game!

Dark Souls trained them well for this, too. Overwhelmingly losing just means they think they need to GIT GUD so they're giving it all they've got!


Plus, if a boss is giving you too much trouble, you're SUPPOSED to request help!
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When SMRPG beats RE4 or exposes how overrated in strength it is on this board I will be the one laughing
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SMRPG will beat RE4.

For the first 5 minutes of the poll.
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alright, riddle me this: if Majora overperformed in the last two matches then do you believe that FF6 is just woefully overrated?
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If SMRPG is above Paper Mario it has a shot at embarrassing RE4, but I don't see it winning outright. I can't envision RE4 squeezing in the gap it's painted itself into.
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transcience posted...
alright, riddle me this: if Majora overperformed in the last two matches then do you believe that FF6 is just woefully overrated?


Obviously Majora pulled a Mario/Samus on Wind Waker. Wind Waker is indirectly stronger, Oblivion > FFX.

...Quick, SMRPG vs. MMX, who ya got?
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transcience posted...
alright, riddle me this: if Majora overperformed in the last two matches then do you believe that FF6 is just woefully overrated?


Not necessarily, because Wind Waker could have easily been SFFed.

Also I'm talking about a modest overperformance, with it overperforming more against Brawl than FFX (evidenced by its joke trends against what was otherwise a Power Hour friendly monster).

But I'm down on FFVI ever since the Wind Waker match regardless. It'll really have to surprise me against FFVII for me to give it the same cachet again.
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