GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1231
You
know, between complaints about the match picture, expecting the site to
franchise vote games they haven't played or don't care about, "Zelda
drones" (Don't even try and say people weren't serious; remember all the
hype about the contest potential of friggin' Dark Link?), and
(less seriously) the top option, I sometimes get the distinct impression
that the stats topic considers the average gamefaqs voter to be stupid. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Tumblr
isnt a hivemind so as long as you get the right bloggers to put up a
rally for pokemon it should overwhelm Undertale's. The problem is I dont
expect tumblr to drop the pokemon rally if it does end up successful so
you'll probably end up trading one winner for a stronger one. |
yep. if Pokemon beats Undertale, that doesn't "save our contest". it just means we've created a new monster. save_us.monstars --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Pokemon has a lot more natural gamefaqs strength and some people even said RBY might be #2 so it wouldn't be an outrageous. Of course, we wouldn't know it's true power, since even a rally half as strong would allow RBY to easily beat everyone else. |
Maybe there are a lot of people on Tumblr that are actually ambivalent about Undertale, but would perk up if they saw Pokemon. --- My name is Monica Lewinsky, and I am here to collect the rent. |
Also
the picture is not that bad guys. It's clearly Link and there's Navi
and an Ocarina. It's not the best picture, but FFIX's picture is
probably doing more damage than OoT's. --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ:OoT > FFIX, BK > DKC2 Points 135/160 |
My Iphone just shows a picture of Link. Zelda is legible, but the subtitle is not. --- My name is Monica Lewinsky, and I am here to collect the rent. |
at least a Pokemon rally would be for our natural number two or three game at least. --- *ExThaNemesis* |
OK, seriously, which Zelda games could this picture of Link be mistaken for? Majora's Mask is the most credible answer, and I'd say that's only barely a handicap. The NES games, Link's Awakening, and ALttP have much more distinct artwork of Link; it can't be any of the Toon Link games, and TP and SS don't have kid Link in them. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5829-what-are-you-browsing-gamefaqs-with-right-now phone picture factor DEBUNKED --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I just laugh at the irony of the thing that might make Pokemon win..is a tumblr rally It's like fighting fire with fire The only person that can pull this off is Steiner, is far as I know he is the most active tumblr user in this board save_us.steiner --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
If he goes that far, he better makes sure that Pokemon wins the whole thing. --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? 124 Gurus were better than me in BGE 2015 contest! |
SecksThaNemesis posted... at least a Pokemon rally would be for our natural number two or three game at least. This is not necessarily the case. Also, it wouldn't be any better than Undertale. --- satoru iwata |
AxemRedRanger posted... You know, between complaints about the match picture, expecting the site to franchise vote games they haven't played or don't care about, "Zelda drones" (Don't even try and say people weren't serious; remember all the hype about the contest potential of friggin' Dark Link?), and (less seriously) the top option, I sometimes get the distinct impression that the stats topic considers the average gamefaqs voter to be stupid. Not stupid, just uncaring. They go to the home page, see link with Zelda logo. If they aren't a Zelda drone but they still like OOT, they might have voted for it. And do you guys just forget solid s***? Or big Boss with naked snake pic? That even had the name of the character next to the vote button! How can you possibly think this isn't having an effect? I'm not even saying people are picking ff9 instead, I'm saying maybe they're just not even bothered to vote. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
MechanicalWall posted... OK, seriously, which Zelda games could this picture of Link be mistaken for? You seriously overestimate how much the average gamer gives a s*** about official artwork and whether they bother to discern the difference in style. It's a 17 year old game. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Am I thinking correctly if I think FFIX > FFX? CT got 65% against FFX. FF9 scoring like 37% against OoT. Unless SFF really screwed FFX, but it did kind of under-performed in other matches . |
DaruniaTheGoron posted... You seriously overestimate how much the average gamer gives a s*** about official artwork and whether they bother to discern the difference in style. It's a 17 year old game. If this contest was being voted on by 'average' gamers, Skyrim and GTA would've blown their competetion away. Maybe I'm overestimating GameFaqs' users' abilities to identify different Zelda artstyles, but the voters here have a more than passing interest in the Zelda series. 'More than passing' meaning that they can identify what game a pic of Link playing an ocarina could be representing. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
Hmm, looks like all FF9 could manage was a few updates in the very high 40s last night. Ah, well - you're up next, SotN! And if OoT isn't recognizable today, neither have a whole bunch of other games in past rounds. TWEWY, Twilight Princess, SotN, Link to the Past, MGS - I agree with the assessment that if any pic is doing damage here, it's FFIX's awesome pic. That's still not nearly enough to excuse this performance. I have suffered and argued through ten years of Solid s*** - and Ocarina, you're no Solid s***. --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
But yo if Ocarina bombs in every match leading up to the finals these excuses are gonna get real old though actually I'm kinda interested in what people will come up with next --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
I
hope there's no rally for Pokemon on Tumblr. We're not that desperate
yet. I'd rather take our chances with Pokemon or Zelda being able to
stop it than just hand the contest to RBY without a fight. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
spooky96 posted... Am I thinking correctly if I think FFIX > FFX? It does look like FFIX is stronger than FFX now. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Karma Hunter posted... But yo if Ocarina bombs in every match leading up to the finals these excuses are gonna get real old OoT will be on the bottom/right side of the poll in the finals so it won't get as many votes --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
An
RBY rally that, combined with natural gamefaqs strength and Undertale
rally backfire, is strong enough to edge out Undertale isn't necessarily
a threat to win the contest. People on gamefaqs probably aren't going to care nearly as much about rallying it to victory over a more site-preferred game and RBY rallies in themselves would probably have a decent backfire rate against at least Ocarina of Time. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Maybe I'm overestimating GameFaqs' users' abilities to identify different Zelda artstyles, but the voters here have a more than passing interest in the Zelda series. 'More than passing' meaning that they can identify what game a pic of Link playing an ocarina could be representing. Have you seen how much Snake underperforms in the sprite round? It's literally 5-10%, every time. You don't actually need a lot of voters to be bad at recognition to influence the percentages a lot- just 5% of prospective OOT/Snake voters would make a huge impact on the results. Also, while it's an ocarina on a computer, on mobile that blue thing is completely unrecognizable as a ocarina. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Karma Hunter posted... But yo if Ocarina bombs in every match leading up to the finals these excuses are gonna get real old It's just Alucard's Plan finally coming into action! --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
never thought I'd see the day where we would need to make excuses for Ocarina of Time. contests have changed --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
I have another excuse Undertale fans heard that OOT is the strongest game in the contest and they don't want it to beat Undertale so they antivote it Why didn't they do it against Hearthstone? I dunno I made this theory just now --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
PM UNAVAILABLE Why is steiner warned? --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
I'm guessing it has something to do with Undertale. Maybe he posted too many LUEshis? --- Any sound can shake the air. My voice shakes the heart! -Sho Minamimoto |
Let
me remind everybody that the legendary Suikogears Stats (2015 - 2015
R.I.P.) already have OoT significantly weaker than its 2009 incarnation.
That's significant, because it never made sense for Suikoden II to be
on Xenogears' level to begin with. Even in 2004, Xenogears did muuuuuuuuuuuch
better on Final Fantasy VII than Suikoden II did - and the further
Xenogears gets from Suikoden II, the closer near-elite contenders like
Wind Waker and Final Fantasy VI get to OoT. Suikoden II predicts Ocarina of Time to be weaker! This isn't a result that needs to be explained! --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time (edited 12/3/2015 9:43:01 AM)report |
I had my chance to do my own calculations earlier. Here are some of the things I took into consideration for my calculations: The backfire rate is lower with these calculations than mine. However, it also implies that the Undertale rally against SMW was barely stronger than the rally against Fallout 3, which brought in around 42,000 votes. Gamefaqs votes would have actually increase MORE between the rounds than rally votes. This despite Tumblr beginning their rallying much earlier in the day against SMW. Which would suggest that there is a ceiling on Undertale rallying on Tumblr, and they've pretty much reached it, since they can't start rallying any earlier than the beginning of the poll. That is also encouraging for RBY and especially OOT I think. Especially OOT because Gamefaqs votals and counterrallies, will continue to rise, and will be much higher for the final. The similarity between the Fallout and SMW backfire rates with these numbers would be concerning, but 20% is also pretty high for a rally (Draven was nuking MMX/Ryu far worse) and it's quite plausible that SMW and Fallout 3 are simply pretty close in strength on Tumblr. Pokemon still managed to post extremely strong numbers from the rallied voters against SMB3 and Sonic 2. Let's try some extrapolation. Assuming SMB3 = SMW on Tumblr, and using Luster's numbers of 74.5% for RBY against SMB3 and 82.3% for Undertale against SMW.....RBY gets a backfire rate of 34.7%. If Gamefaqs/counterrallies accounted for around half the votes again, a 35% backfire rate is more than enough for RBY to win. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
The hardest part for me is reconciling Hearthstone being that weak. --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
Nanis23 posted... I have another excuse They did do it against Hearthstone Hearthstone was worth only 4% on OoT naturally it works perfectly --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
Link
had a string of bad performances in 2010 and people didn't even make
excuses- they simply proclaimed they were good, dominant, performances.
All the way until Link failed to outdo his 2006 percentage against
Cloud against the weakest version of Cloud the contests had seen yet in
the 2010 final. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
On
one hand, it's cool that there's more level competition instead of pure
Nintendo dominance. On the other, how did this SquareFAQs reemerge out
of nowhere --- satoru iwata |
transcience posted... okay, I'm going to leave CT out of this for now just in case there's any FFX weirdness. That sounds about right to me. I would take: FF9 > FF4 > FF8 > FFT And I would also take: OOT > LTTP > SMW > SM64 It actually all makes sense to me. --- Yay - Raytan is the guru champion of awesomeness. |
Guys. SotN and FFIX are still going up. What is this? --- Blasting off |
FF9's
just throwing in random percentage stalls in the midst of OoT's rise to
heaven. OoT's percentage increase might not seem that impressive, but
in the context of this contest it probably has the best day vote in the
entire field (which is also evidence that it's having to shake off its
early antivotes all match, a la classic FF7). SotN well... lol DKC2 sux --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
ZFS posted... This is not necessarily the case. Also, it wouldn't be any better than Undertale. Yes it would. It wouldn't be happening SOLELY because of an off-site rally pushing us around. --- *ExThaNemesis* |
I don't think you understand what kind of monster you create this way --- satoru iwata |
a pocket monster. --- *ExThaNemesis* |
The Gurus with RBY as their champion are thrilled to hear all this talk about counter-rallies. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
If RBY wins with rallies, it better go all the way to the finals or it's so anticlimactic. --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
If
I have to watch Pokemon beat Ocarina of Time I think I will have met my
contest life quota why continue what is there to even see anymore I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST SMELL YA LATER this is Undertale --- satoru iwata |
I think Pokemon deserves the title of Best Game Ever more than Undertale too, for what it's worth. I mean, Ocarina deserves it more than either, but improving results is good. --- Any sound can shake the air. My voice shakes the heart! -Sho Minamimoto |
yes let's rally pokemon to keep my husk of a bracket alive in the guru for as long as possible --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
There's
no reason to try a rally for Pokemon unless it's in danger. The natural
blowback from the Undertale rally might be enough. --- Blasting off |
The hate for RBY here disgusts me And it's coming from a person that hates genwunners and considers every Pokemon gen to be an improvement over the previous one Yes it's clear that RBY is a buggy mess, but I can never forget the impact it had on my life and how f***ing much I loved it back then --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
redrocket_pub posted... There's no reason to try a rally for Pokemon unless it's in danger. The natural blowback from the Undertale rally might be enough. This whole match depends on one thing and one thing only - just how much of tumblr are drones that vote for whatever people tell them to vote or if they actually stop and thinking which game they like more Well it actually depends on another aspect which i'm trying to make it happen - a tumblr Pokemon rally --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
The Mana Sword posted... The hardest part for me is reconciling Hearthstone being that weak. Hearthstone is a bottom 2 game in the contest. Maybe bottom 1. Not surprising imo |
