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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1231
a big black d*** --- Rest in Peace, foREVer. whatisurnameplz |
Team Rocket Elite posted... creativename posted...So not sure if this was discussed, have read reactions to the match yet. I meant after the Remake is released. Not for this contest. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
The
remake won't do anything. It might even make the game weaker because it
won't be nearly as special (and maybe not nearly as good) as the
original. I have no faith in Square to make this thing work. --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
I
don't think the FFVII remake is going to do much for FFVII's strength
long-term unless it's genuinely seen as surpassing the original. Or if,
perhaps, it completely revitalizes Final Fantasy fandom and increases
site traffic and therefore votals then that would certainly help too,
but that's even more wildly optimistic. I mean, we're on goddamn gamefaqs, people. We live and breathe nostalgia. Nobody needs to be reminded of FFVII to know whether they love it or not. And pretty much everybody who actually goes to gamefaqs and was ever going to play FFVII has basically already done so. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Yeah,
I meant if CT really is super strong and FF10 didn't actually fall that
much, the FF7 remake may not be enough to catch CT in a future contest. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
CaptainOfCrush posted... The remake won't do anything. It might even make the game weaker because it won't be nearly as special (and maybe not nearly as good) as the original. I have no faith in Square to make this thing work. wait until FFXV is everything we've been hoping for these past ten years and I'm sure you'll change your tune...! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Yesterday's charts: Time | Skyrim | Prime | Votes | Demographic EBV | 46.64% | 53.36% | 1265 | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 47.38% | 52.62% | 7140 | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 50.53% | 49.47% | 12692 | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 51.93% | 48.07% | 7220 | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 51.24% | 48.76% | 14006 | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 51.20% | 48.80% | 13945 | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 50.28% | 49.72% | 2693 | (22:00-24:00) Prime gets off to a great start as expected, but Skyrim wins the rest of the timeframes in the match. Time | SM64 | Zelda TP | Votes | Demographic EBV | 54.91% | 45.09% | 1273 | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 56.43% | 43.57% | 7220 | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 55.94% | 44.06% | 12603 | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 57.00% | 43.00% | 7388 | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 58.79% | 41.21% | 14027 | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 56.03% | 43.97% | 14049 | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 56.31% | 43.69% | 2724 | (22:00-24:00) Zelda wins the night vote and the ASV, Mario takes the morning and early afternoon. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
TRE,
I doubt it would need very much of a boost to catch CT. If CT can even
keep it's strength, which is a very dubious proposition IMO. CaptainOfCrush posted... The remake won't do anything. It might even make the game weaker because it won't be nearly as special (and maybe not nearly as good) as the original. I have no faith in Square to make this thing work. Saying it won't do anything is pretty unrealistic. Even if it's only decent it should help. It has to be bad to not help, and while I don't expect it to be great, it being outright bad is unlikely. AxemRedRanger posted... I don't think the FFVII remake is going to do much for FFVII's strength long-term unless it's genuinely seen as surpassing the original. Or if, perhaps, it completely revitalizes Final Fantasy fandom and increases site traffic and therefore votals then that would certainly help too, but that's even more wildly optimistic. FF7 definitely needs it's strength refreshed. As static as this site is FF7 has aged. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
The
FFVII remake needs a way to generate hype and excitement. The problem
right now is, Square just hasn't been turning out good games for too
long. No one believes Square can outdo their work from the 90s now. There's also some tropes of 90s games like FFVII that are really hard to remake without losing their charm. For instance, I've been watching Skyward Sword cutscenes recently and thoroughly enjoying them. But there is something odd about Link never speaking on-screen in those cutscenes, and if I wasn't used to older Zelda games, I'd find this a lot more notable I think. FFVII is a harder game than most to bring into this time period, I think. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. (edited 12/2/2015 10:24:13 PM)report |
Random thought. OoT was the obvious #2 favorite for our original 2K4 games contest. But what that have been the case if Link hadn't won in 2K2? I feel FF7 would have been the obvious favorite even if there was never a character contest. But if we had never had a character contest, what would have been the favorite for #2 game? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Now
that I'm home, I've looked at the picture again on a computer screen.
Well, it's definitely miles better than it was on mobile. That's just a
moderately bad pic now, but the mobile pic can vie with some of our
worst pics in contest history for awfulness. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Are we all in consensus that CT beats FFVII in a 1v1 match right now? I figured I was bold in thinking that. OH WELL MELEE BEATS BOTH --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
On
my phone (makes sense with this account, hurr durr) and I really think
it's being understated how garbage that OoT picture is. Especially to an
awesome picture featuring Vivi who is prominent and obviously in only
one FF game. You look on the left and it just seems like generic Zelda
#8. I mean I knew it was OoT today and it is my #1 of all time, but I
definitely see where someone especially on their phone might just be
like "Well Vivi looks awesome and now I remember how much fun FFIX was,
and Link is blowing his nose in an unidentified game. *votes FFIX* --- Viviff on the go! (or from the toilet) http://i.minus.com/iUSn0BlyRplGN.gif |
But if we had never had a character contest, what would have been the favorite for #2 game? OOT. Or maybe FFVII, because OOT was acclaimed pretty much everywhere as the greatest game of all time, or in the short list. I'm not sure that FFVII is the favorite if we don't have the 2002 and 2003 contests. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
I mean, we've had Solid s*** forever, and now I think we have the Hero of s***. --- Viviff on the go! (or from the toilet) http://i.minus.com/iUSn0BlyRplGN.gif |
OoT
is not the first game to suffer from having a bad/unreadable pic in
this contest. It's just the first one to get a mountain of excuses for
it. (MGS doubles Earthbound with even pics, believe) --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Are we all in consensus that CT beats FFVII in a 1v1 match right now? I figured I was bold in thinking that. So many people jumping aboard the Chrono Trigger train now. After they had the gumption to pick FFX over it by a 2 to 1 ratio or whatever it was. I figured setting CT at 48% on OOT would be pretty bold even for a CT fanboy, but I'm seeing loads of non-CT fanboys predicting it to win outright! What does one have to do to pick a bold upset around here...... --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
CaptainOfCrush posted... Are we all in consensus that CT beats FFVII in a 1v1 match right now? I figured I was bold in thinking that. KH2 top 5 game on this site confirmed it would've beaten Melee without that rally after all --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
CT just looks flat-out better. At some point we can't keep making excuses to ourselves! --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
CT
crushing every other Square game is not crazy imo. The crazy ppl are
the ones picking it to crush Zelda. Did we not just see a Zelda
overperformance against what has become the consensus #2 FF game (an
SNES FF game, to boot)? And how did people react? By claiming that Wind
Waker must have gotten stronger or must be stronger than we thought all
along. The excuses run both ways. Zelda shows up to fight against FF, each and every time. CT can beat FFVII and still get its ass kicked by LttP the next day. --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif (edited 12/2/2015 10:38:43 PM)report |
red sox 777 posted... Are we all in consensus that CT beats FFVII in a 1v1 match right now? I figured I was bold in thinking that. Well I currently think CT would beat OoT with around 55% so you would need to at least match that. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
Zelda isn't showing up to fight FFIX very hard right now! I have a hard time believing FFX wouldn't be doing better than this (yes, FFIX has closed the gap, but it being outright stronger is hard to swallow considering what FFX did to it in GOTD). Using Wind Waker's match with KOTOR and FFIX's match with KOTOR, FFVI is projected to punch Ocarina of Time in the mouth. There's a lot of ways to interpret what OoT has done to FFIX and Suikoden II so far and none of them are good for it. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
I
will say TRE thinking OoT would go down 55/45 to CT is overly
pessimistic/concern troll-y. If CT wins that match I doubt it goes much
higher than 52-53%, and that's assuming the entire site gangs up on OoT
with every antivote it can dish out on it. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... Zelda isn't showing up to fight FFIX very hard right now! It's not a fight. --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
Hey the voters shouldn't know that. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ytthvqia7k49ihq/photo%2003-12-15%2C%2008%2039%2032.png?dl=0 This is the worst picture ever since CBIX Vincent (OOT) --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Like if anything let's start throwing out the idea of OoT overperforming on FFIX! I mean just last contest they saw Vivi beat Mario this FFIX game has gotta be a real threat to OoT! --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
CT's
performances have looked better, but it's faced two fodder games (below
20% on the champion is fodder right?) whose strengths we have little
knowledge of. One of those was an RPG that shares CT's art style. Then
CT faced FFX, which (1) was overrated, and (2) is a Square RPG. I
doubt there was much SFF, but there is the potential, and honestly there
probably was a point or two of it. OOT has faced 2 games which are basically unknowns, and then today's bad performance against FFIX. I'd really like to know how much worse OOT is doing among people voting from a phone. That mobile pic is literally Solid **** level. I mean, yes, there's 5 matches worth of weak evidence now, and collectively that's a lot. But in 2009, CT was worth something like 35% on OOT. That kind of gap is really hard to make up! And remember, in 13 years of contests, Link and OOT have never ever ever failed to break 46% on anything. Not FFVII in it's heyday, not Draven, not even L-Block. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Hey the voters shouldn't know that. Nintendo voters know everything. They could make LTTP post 45% on OOT, then turn around and have OOT beat down FFVII 54-46, just because they feel like it. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
lol I wasn't even looking for it and I already spot a so-called rally for FFIX on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/3v8w0a/final_fantasy_ix_is_up_against_lozoot_in_the_best/ Doesn't seem to have gotten any attention at all. --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens | http://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ |
I'm
not entirely sold on CT. I think it looks better on every front, passes
the eye test, but I'm not willing to say it even beats FF7 yet, let
alone gives OoT a challenge. If it can annihilate Melee the way its first three matches suggest it should, I'll call it the favorite in a hypothetical CT/OoT showdown. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
WhiteLens posted... lol I wasn't even looking for it and I already spot a so-called rally for FFIX on Reddit. Pretty much every match has a pathetic rally attempt on Reddit. Its almost like there are 2-3 guys doing it for every match in the contest. |
red sox 777 posted... Hey the voters shouldn't know that. they should know that the game in today's match is goddamn Ocarina of Time then --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... I will say TRE thinking OoT would go down 55/45 to CT is overly pessimistic/concern troll-y. If CT wins that match I doubt it goes much higher than 52-53%, and that's assuming the entire site gangs up on OoT with every antivote it can dish out on it. I might change my mind a bit after seeing where OoT ends up on FF9. It could end up going up by more than I expect. But I don't think FF9 is as strong as FF10 and OoT is currently doing worse than CT did. FF9 is stronger than before but I think it's still only around GotD Metroid Prime in strength. The rest of the gap is down to how much FF10 has fallen. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
Team Rocket Elite posted... red sox 777 posted...Are we all in consensus that CT beats FFVII in a 1v1 match right now? I figured I was bold in thinking that. Whoaaa now! No wonder you thought FF7 might not be able to catch CT. There's no way I see CT scoring anything like that vs. OoT. I think on natural strength OoT is still stronger, and CT needs a bandwagon to win. I'm not even entirely convinced CT is stronger than FF7. I think CT is the favorite because if FFX is still close to Melee, then FFX>Smash 4. However maybe FFX just sucks this year. It sucks sooo bad that thanks to goddamn Undertale we will not know where OoT/FF7/CT really compare to each other. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
"goddamn Ocarina of Time" would probably be my sig if not for the legendary Iwata-san. --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
Let me help you out then yo --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
Match pics make very, very little difference for games. This shouldn't even really be a discussion. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Things like facts never stopped people from voting for Republicans who promise to take away their economic livelihoods. Republican/Nintendo voters live in the higher realm of abstract ideas, like "we have enough support to save both Mario and Link" and "we need to bury Mario to ensure Link gets first place." --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6150-best-game-ever-day-26-round-3-smash-bros-wii-u-vs-final http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6147-best-game-ever-day-25-round-3-chrono-trigger-vs-final Is FF10 bad enough to lose to SSB4? I think that's asking a lot from a modern 3DS/WiiU game. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
Do
we not feel that Pokemon has aaaaany shot against Undertale? I'm sure
these have already been posted, but I'd love to know what our estimates
are on the rally's backfire rate against Mario World versus the backfire
rate on Fallout/ME3. Pokemon has been aided incredibly by Undertale's
rally, to teh point that I suspect it can feed off Undertale's own
rallies much better than anything else, and it can counter-rally way
better than Mario can. And if Pokemon does it, we'd get a HOPEFULLY SOMEWHAT NORMAL AND UNINTERRUPTED match between RBY and Mario 64, which would throw us back into some semblance of normalcy. --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
It
wouldn't, but if we get SSB4 > FFX in the stats I think we can call
that pretty textbook SFF on CT's part. I mean, MMX would crush Mass
Effect too, so it works all the way down. --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
Red, why would FFX be overrated? That makes no sense, we had multiple reads on it. And GOTD has been pretty accurate too. I saw someone say this before (maybe it was you) and I can't see any logic for it. A drop doesn't mean it was overrated. red sox 777 posted... But if we had never had a character contest, what would have been the favorite for #2 game? This site was basically built on FF7. I do think we'd have known it was the sites favorite game without a character contest. I'm less sure OoT would have been the #2 without Link being so strong. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
If
RBY by some miracle overcomes Undertale it's getting into the finals no
matter what its natural strength is and potentially winning this dumb
contest --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
Do we not feel that Pokemon has aaaaany shot against Undertale? I'm sure these have already been posted, but I'd love to know what our estimates are on the rally's backfire rate against Mario World versus the backfire rate on Fallout/ME3. Pokemon has been aided incredibly by Undertale's rally, to teh point that I suspect it can feed off Undertale's own rallies much better than anything else, and it can counter-rally way better than Mario can. I think Pokemon's got a great shot. Pokemon got a substantially higher percentage of the rallied voters against Sonic 2 than Undertale got against SMW. Undertale only did about as well with the rallied votes against SMW as Pokemon did against SMB3. Going to run some calculations now that we have final numbers from the end of the match. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Aww yeah evidence of constant antivotes: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72927818/838185510 (okay yeah N=1) OoT is totally going to rise to the occasion against stronger opposition --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
FF10 wasn't overrated, it just looks worse this year than before, period. Like "might actually be weaker than FF9" worse. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
CaptainOfCrush posted... Do we not feel that Pokemon has aaaaany shot against Undertale? I'm sure these have already been posted, but I'd love to know what our estimates are on the rally's backfire rate against Mario World versus the backfire rate on Fallout/ME3. Pokemon has been aided incredibly by Undertale's rally, to teh point that I suspect it can feed off Undertale's own rallies much better than anything else, and it can counter-rally way better than Mario can. Is there a way to export tables from creativename's site? If so I might be able to do some halfassed estimates. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
OoT
getting heavily antivoted now isn't a good thing for it. It might mess a
little bit with its transitivity, but heavy antivotes are very bad in a
normal match against something that can threaten it, especially with
our normally low total votes. --- Goddamn Ocarina of Time |
If
CT somehow manages to beat FFVII despite the Undertale rally
potentially ruining the result and then CT somehow slays the Undertale
beast to make it to the final, at least there's a second semifinal match
to absorb the Undertale rally spillover (CT will be in the first
semifinal match). That would be good for the CT/OoT match as we don't
have to worry about Undertale rally spillover killing CT in the final
when the Tumblr voters anti-vote CT for killing Undertale. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
