Prime is not an FPS.
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
SecksThaNemesis posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
ME2 beating MGS3 would be far better.


I dislike you.


After all this undertale rallying s*** we need some good results once in a while and if ME2 pulls off the upset it will be an awesome result.

It's the far superior game but thats subjective.


ME2 already got its upset out of the way. It never should've beaten Starcraft.

MGS3 is one of the few games that establishes it as an art form. Admittedly I haven't played Mass Effect but there's little to nothing that touches MGS3 and it deserves more recognition.
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OldFAQs let me down. Man, I totally forgot that Fallout 3 beat Metroid Prime in GotD despite picking Fallout 3 to win its Quarterfinal match for that contest, and I had MP losing to HL2 at that.

Oh sure, I picked Mario Galaxy to win over Super Metroid because of RESEARCH but didn't do the same for Metroid Prime, goddammit.

I'll take my leave from Guru now.
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SecksThaNemesis posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
SecksThaNemesis posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
ME2 beating MGS3 would be far better.


I dislike you.


After all this undertale rallying s*** we need some good results once in a while and if ME2 pulls off the upset it will be an awesome result.

It's the far superior game but thats subjective.


ME2 already got its upset out of the way. It never should've beaten Starcraft.

MGS3 is one of the few games that establishes it as an art form. Admittedly I haven't played Mass Effect but there's little to nothing that touches MGS3 and it deserves more recognition.


ME2 beating Starcraft wasn't an Upset.

Then why are you bothering to post if you haven't played it? ME is a ridiculously good series. ME2 was widely regarded as one of the best games last gen. I've played both, MGS3 is great but ME2 is better.
People thinking MGS is a beautiful work of art still kind of surprises me.

I like the games, but I really don't think they can be taken seriously.
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Evillordexdeath posted...
People thinking MGS is a beautiful work of art still kind of surprises me.

I like the games, but I really don't think they can be taken seriously.


I agree completely. Metal Gear might be the single most overrated series ever.

Kojima has some neat ideas and themes, but the dialogue and exposition is just so f***ing bad. And half-hour cutscenes completely ignore a video game's potential to communicate without words, or without taking control from the player.

One thing I'll give big props for is the big WTF moments. Physco Mantis' boss fight was crazy.
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Man, this was not a debated match until recently! I consider this a great performance from Prime rather than Skyrim. It's nice to see Metroid getting some love this contest after a really disappointing contest history. Bonus MP is a top 10 video game
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WhiteLens posted...
OldFAQs let me down. Man, I totally forgot that Fallout 3 beat Metroid Prime in GotD despite picking Fallout 3 to win its Quarterfinal match for that contest, and I had MP losing to HL2 at that.

Oh sure, I picked Mario Galaxy to win over Super Metroid because of RESEARCH but didn't do the same for Metroid Prime, goddammit.

I'll take my leave from Guru now.

I had Skyrim in the Oracle despite OldFAQs. I think most were split pretty evenly, but Skyrim was impressive vs. Goldeneye.

GOTD stats have held up pretty well against each other. They even forecast CT's round 2 and 3 performances. It's just that old games were stronger vs. GOTD games than we expected.

Really if you knew about 90's games>GOTD games, Undertale, and CT then you could predict things pretty well.
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MechanicalWall posted...
Evillordexdeath posted...
People thinking MGS is a beautiful work of art still kind of surprises me.

I like the games, but I really don't think they can be taken seriously.


I agree completely. Metal Gear might be the single most overrated series ever.

Kojima has some neat ideas and themes, but the dialogue and exposition is just so f***ing bad. And half-hour cutscenes completely ignore a video game's potential to communicate without words, or without taking control from the player.

One thing I'll give big props for is the big WTF moments. Physco Mantis' boss fight was crazy.


Kojima still uses the video game medium more creatively than 99% of game directors so I don't really mind the cutscenes. How many games let you defeat a really old guy by setting your ps2 clock forward?
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2 is what really establishes Kojima as an artist.

SecksThaNemesis posted...
Admittedly I haven't played Mass Effect


Yeah you need to get on that.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
2 is what really establishes Kojima as an artist.

SecksThaNemesis posted...
Admittedly I haven't played Mass Effect


Yeah you need to get on that.


...I have no problems at all understanding why some champion MGS2 that way, but I just felt like I was on drugs playing it last year (and yes Ulti that was where I got the bright idea of joking about you being on drugs, oops) and that makes me want to bash the game's fans as being rather pretentious.

I still really enjoyed the game (mostly the gameplay, but I was still able to get invested enough in the story to care about what was going on) and would say it isn't much worse than any other MGS game at all. A solid 9/10 game.

But yeah MGS2 high art no thank you.

(also the game did a very nice job of taking my mind off of being depressed over finishing my two favorite games on back-to-back days without any prior planning last year)

As for Mass Effect I'm not into WRPGS or space opera fare.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
2 is what really establishes Kojima as an artist.

SecksThaNemesis posted...
Admittedly I haven't played Mass Effect


Yeah you need to get on that.


...I have no problems at all understanding why some champion MGS2 that way, but I just felt like I was on drugs playing it last year (and yes Ulti that was where I got the bright idea of joking about you being on drugs, oops) and that makes me want to bash the game's fans as being rather pretentious.

I still really enjoyed the game (mostly the gameplay, but I was still able to get invested enough in the story to care about what was going on) and would say it isn't much worse than any other MGS game at all. A solid 9/10 game.

But yeah MGS2 high art no thank you.

(also the game did a very nice job of taking my mind off of being depressed over finishing my two favorite games on back-to-back days without any prior planning last year)

As for Mass Effect I'm not into WRPGS or space opera fare.


Literally every time you post about mgs2 you say you felt like you were on drugs. Please stop.

Anyway, mgs2 is art because of the context surrounding its release. Playing it without understanding that context diminishes its impact so yeah I guess it'll seem like fans are pretentious if you are taking the game at face value in 2015.
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MGS2 is one of the most prescient games ever created

Its story was about government organizations using the massive amounts of information on the internet to dictate what people think through censorship and information control. It was released in 2001
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Just put LMS on ignore. Problem solved.
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KamikazePotato posted...
MGS2 is one of the most prescient games ever created

Its story was about government organizations using the massive amounts of information on the internet to dictate what people think through censorship and information control. It was released in 2001


It's more based in reality than people realize, and that whole lecture about the wiseman is directly based off of Bilderberg.
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Xenogears did that in 1998
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So, does super metroid got any chance against MM?
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Xenogears didn't have the President grabbing your crotch to check if you were a guy or girl though

Hard-hitting subjects, relevant to this day
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foxhead84 posted...
So, does super metroid got any chance against MM?


Very tiny chance.
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Yeah 2 I'll give some credit, since it definitely has some really cool and inventive ideas behind it, though I still feel the execution was flawed. It's my favorite of the series, for what it's worth.

The one that really threw me was someone saying MGS4 was a poignant meditation on the psychological effects of war because of the BnB corps.
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KamikazePotato posted...
Xenogears didn't have the President grabbing your crotch to check if you were a guy or girl though

Hard-hitting subjects, relevant to this day


He was checking to see if you were one of the Les Enfants Terribles. All three were castrated.
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So..it's over, right?
There is no reason for a change a trends or something
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Nanis23 posted...
So..it's over, right?
There is no reason for a change a trends or something


Seems like it.
Unless you want to try r/metroid to rally ALL THE 20 USERS online there.
12/2/2015 12:27:08 PM#279
UltimaterializerX posted...
I think Skyrim easily wins that, for reasons KP has covered multiple times. I couldn't care less what the stats say.


The stats literally don't say anything because Fallout 3 goes through Undertale and thus its stats are worthless.

but thanks for bringing them up for no reason at all
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LeonhartFour posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
I think Skyrim easily wins that, for reasons KP has covered multiple times. I couldn't care less what the stats say.


The stats literally don't say anything because Fallout 3 goes through Undertale and thus its stats are worthless.

but thanks for bringing them up for no reason at all


It isn't as if Fallout 3 and Skyrim share a common opponent in their runs over the years or anything.

Jesus, Leon.
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12/2/2015 12:28:56 PM#281
UltimaterializerX posted...
He was checking to see if you were one of the Les Enfants Terribles. All three were castrated.


The Document of MGS2 says he was expecting Olga, but nice try.
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12/2/2015 12:29:23 PM#282
Achromatic posted...
It isn't as if Fallout 3 and Skyrim share a common opponent in their runs over the years or anything.


Which Metroid Prime?

The one that went 50/50 with HL2 or the one that went 58/42 on HL2?
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The point is there are certainly some stats to look at though. You don't have to say they are 100% accurate but you can get a judge man.
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12/2/2015 12:31:07 PM#284
The stats don't really tell us anything about Skyrim vs. Fallout 3 though because we don't know what the difference between 2010 Prime and 2015 Prime is.
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I think we can get a pretty good guess given how badly half-life ended up looking since ffx got butchered.
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I don't need stats on that one. Skyrim beats Fallout 3. Fallout 3 and games of its ilk are weaker than they were in 2010.
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Leon you're being super negative for no reason. I pretty clearly was talking about both of them facing Prime, jesus dude.
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12/2/2015 12:33:40 PM#288
I mean if we want to go back to GOTD I'll take 60% on GoldenEye vs. 60% on Halo all day every day.

We don't even know how the original Half-Life was relative to HL2.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Which Metroid Prime?

The one that went 50/50 with HL2 or the one that went 58/42 on HL2?


Given how we still have zero word on 3, people might just be over the Half-Life series. ie, Half-Life has more reason to move than Prime.
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12/2/2015 12:35:38 PM#290
I don't doubt HL2 is weaker now, but how much of that performance is HL2 being worse and how much of it is Prime being better? I doubt it's 100% one and 0% the other.
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could this be... the ASV????????
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Going back to MGS2 I jumped into the game right after finishing the original. No matter how much you like the game you have to admit it was a massive prank.

And me feeling like I was on drugs playing it is unfortunately what comes to mind first in regards to MGS2, and makes me get a little angry at those who constantly champion it as some great work of art.
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nah, just a momentary blip for Prime. calling it for Skyrim, though I think everyone else has done that already.

I bet there are some good snap reactions in the first hour of this poll.
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Wouldn't the ASV favor Skyrim anyways with those kids and their Arrow the the Knee meme?
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WhiteLens posted...
Wouldn't the ASV favor Skyrim anyways with those kids and their Arrow the the Knee meme?


The kids these days are too busy talking about Undertale.
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swirIdude posted...
WhiteLens posted...
Wouldn't the ASV favor Skyrim anyways with those kids and their Arrow the the Knee meme?


The kids these days are too busy talking about Undertale.


kids don't play undertale. They can't understand it. IT's mostly popular for girls aged 16-22
LeonhartFour posted...
I don't doubt HL2 is weaker now, but how much of that performance is HL2 being worse and how much of it is Prime being better? I doubt it's 100% one and 0% the other.


Prime is probably more consistent. Facto in lower vote totals and you have Prime beating HL2 by a bigger %.

100k votals vs 50k votals. 100k Prime beats HL2 51-49. 50k it beats it 58-42. IF you halve the votals even more Prime probably doubles it. You have to factor in who comes on this site more...people who are more likely have played Prime or HL2 and people who will vote prime over HL because Samus is in it.

Skyrim would be stronger than FO3 5 years ago and would 55-45 Prime easily. IT's just a far more popular game that sold more and was accessible to more people.
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Would Metroid be likely to get the second night vote? I'm sure the ASV would be the closest Skyrim has to a decent voting block, but once the kids go back to sleep and the older users come back from work, can this swing in Metroid's direction again?
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MechanicalWall posted...
Would Metroid be likely to get the second night vote? I'm sure the ASV would be the closest Skyrim has to a decent voting block, but once the kids go back to sleep and the older users come back from work, can this swing in Metroid's direction again?


We haven't seen a comeback of this magnitude in this contest without an outside rally.

You planning to rally for Prime?
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