So I predicted that by the afternoon even the RBY supporters would think that Undertale was the favorite next round. How are you guys feeling about it at this point?
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The hopelessness is making a lot of stuff dredge back up from past contests.

And yeah, what people are expressing is hopelessness, no matter what they might otherwise say. Very few of us honestly think RBY/OoT have a great shot at beating this thing anymore.
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Undertale is a cool game i hope it wins the contest. thank you, and god bless
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RBY or Chrono Trigger have the best chance, but CT would have to beat FF7 and yeah.
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You know I never thought match pics made a difference (well, except really bad ones) but hot damn RB's pic is so cool.
Anyone know if Undertale is currently on track to match Pokemon's percentage against SMB3? I guess it doesn't matter much, but if it finishes under that we can at least pretend next round is debatable.
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Anyone know if Undertale is currently on track to match Pokemon's percentage against SMB3? I guess it doesn't matter much, but if it finishes under that we can at least pretend next round is debatable.


There's no way it reaches what Pokemon put on SMB3.
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Undertale I think has zero chance of hitting, what was it, Pokemon's 61% or something on SMB3? I think it exceeding its percentage on Fallout 3 isn't out of the question at all though.
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as long as SMB3 ends up above SMW in the x-stats


Pray for RBY to get RBlownout
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12/1/2015 2:39:42 PM#61
So I predicted that by the afternoon even the RBY supporters would think that Undertale was the favorite next round. How are you guys feeling about it at this point?


Pretty much the same as I've felt since midway through the Fallout match. RBY has the best chance to stop this, then OOT. SMW was 3rd but the chance was always small. CT's chances are nonzero but much smaller than our Nintendo two.
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It's a shame that Undertale coming off hella strong here will ignore the fact that SMW has been incredibly impressive. People will continue to call Mario turd of the contest, even though there's very few instances where that is correct. The fact that SMW held Undertale back for as long as it did shouldn't be ignored.
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So I predicted that by the afternoon even the RBY supporters would think that Undertale was the favorite next round. How are you guys feeling about it at this point?


Pretty much the same as I've felt since midway through the Fallout match. RBY has the best chance to stop this, then OOT. SMW was 3rd but the chance was always small. CT's chances are nonzero but much smaller than our Nintendo two.


CT has better chances than SMW because we actually have a place to rally effectively. Not saying it's a good chance though.
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12/1/2015 2:40:47 PM#64
Undertale I think has zero chance of hitting, what was it, Pokemon's 61% or something on SMB3? I think it exceeding its percentage on Fallout 3 isn't out of the question at all though.


I think he's referring to the implied 74% RBY was getting from rallied votes, and comparing that with the rallied votes in this match.
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I wasn't exactly an RBY supporter but I've gone from "would need a notable counter-rally of its own" to "probably needs NoA" after the first wave of the rally last night.
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12/1/2015 2:41:38 PM#66


CT has better chances than SMW because we actually have a place to rally effectively. Not saying it's a good chance though.


If CT was in SMW's place today, it would have had a better shot, yes. But if Undertale faces CT, that means it'll already have beaten RBY, which makes things a lot harder for our hero.
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Yeah, I think Undertale/RBY determines the winner of the contest. If Undertale gets past that match it'll have too much momentum to be stopped.
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If Undertale faces CT, it means CT beat FFVII and that sounds like a minor miracle and cause for celebration itself.
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Dangit Undertale when are you gonna get your ass in gear and break 70% on SMW on an update

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12/1/2015 2:46:14 PM#70
Long ago, a great war raged between humans and monsters. When all hope seemed lost, a hero appeared, clothed in green and wielding the sword of evil's bane. The hero used the golden power of legend to divide the will of the monsters from their power. The hero sealed the monsters' wills away in a land of eternal night, and he sealed away their power inside creatures we call "pocket monsters"- creatures with great power who lack a will and of their own and thus obey their weak human masters.

But all seals must break, all fortresses fall, all histories turn to legend and myth. The monsters' will persevered, powerless and trapped in their black underworld, and there it turned to hatred. In the world above, kingdoms rose and kingdoms fell, and knowledge of the great war faded to nursery rhymes and old idioms.

The hero was remembered by some, but the golden power was remembered by more. Knights, traders, peasants, and princes, young and old, all traveled across the land, searching far and wide for that golden power. Such adventurers bred and trained their pocket monsters, honing their great power. But though many searched, none found the golden power.

A day came when the light of the sun weakened. The humans of the land did not notice at first, thinking ordinary weather was the cause, and enjoying the sun at noon without risking sunburn. But, slowly, gradually, the days grew shorter, the nights longer and colder. A melancholy mood fell upon the people, and reports came in of pocket monsters that had escaped from their masters. Not long after, came the first report anyone had ever heard of a pocket monster attacking its master.

Dark creatures crept into the shadowy places of the world. At last, the people knew something was wrong. The faithful among them gathered and awaited the hero to return. The governor was not one of them. He gathered a large army and set out to find the monsters and destroy them.

Only one soldier returned. He had lost his powers of speech, but bore a single red hat. The letter "M" on the front had been defaced, and in the back of the hat was branded the symbol of the hero, with a great line dividing it in two.
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You know, I was never fond of Sonic games but seeing the guy get curbstomped with 77% is making me feel kinda sorry for it.
ctesjbuvf posted...
I feel like this stuff would bother me less if we has contests more often. But we have them so rarely that what this rally takes away is just completely lost. The Mario Gauntlet featuring RBY, Chrono Trigger vs. Final Fantasy VII, the winner of those vs. each other. All something we wont get now. People saying Undertale winning isn't set in stone are just being optimistic. CT looked like it could actually give OoT a run. We wont know though. And now things are less predictable? Pre-contest maybe but certainly not otherwise. That's what sucks. Not these matches in themselves as what we're missing out on, perhaps, for several more years.


Sounds about right. It's weird how so many can say that "it's just the same old, same old"...well okay, in the big picture they're right, yet we're able to come up with all these matches that we were highly anticipating.

To be fair though it was personally hard for me to get all that excited for seeing stuff like the Mario gauntlet because I'm just not SUCH a big fan of the games in question to be so hyped for them squaring off in later rounds while my favorite games are out. Same might have been true for many, except on a much larger scale. At least all my top 5 games got to Round 3, and the only one eliminated so far managed to finish its contest on a fairly high note.

I would also like to perhaps put forward a theory that maybe weaker contest fields just make for more "uneven" results, and that the contest fields last few contests were just plain weaker:

-We all more or less agreed that Link and Cloud, even if they were still the strongest characters, were no longer such dominant forces in these contests.
-This contest is showing how the GOTD field is mere ants compared to the actual strongest games.
-Rivalry Rumble involved Mario and Bowser outperforming Cloud and Sephiroth against an opponent who should SFF the former...thinking about this hurts my brain, next.
-At absolute best, the only Noble Niners who seemed not to be weaker in 2013 compared to usual were Snake, Mega Man, and Samus. I'm assuming that Snake was coasting off of MGSV hype and Mega Man off of Smash 4 hype, now that all that is over...meanwhile Samus's just drew an incredibly soft contest path thanks to Mario being eliminated in Round 2, although maybe she could have handled him.

Side note: how on earth were Mega Man and Samus some of the NNers who performed best (least bad?) last contest despite BOTH their series not having had any games since 2010, with the former not even appearing in anything since then whereas Samus and her series at least continue to get acknowledgement here and there? Meanwhile Sonic got his two best-received games in years, Mario put out more games than ever (of course we know how much that means now lol), a big new Zelda came out, and...lol I guess Cloud and Sephiroth had Theatrhythm and Dissidia 012 and whatever else...bah.
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Pokemon somehow hasn't stopped gaining percentage yet. I mean, it's slow, but it's still going up.
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ctesjbuvf posted...


CT has better chances than SMW because we actually have a place to rally effectively. Not saying it's a good chance though.


Which place?
12/1/2015 2:50:23 PM#75
70% update you say? How about a 73% match!

Tournament Semifinal: The Legend of Zelda vs. Metal Gear
The Legend of Zelda 73.74% 97633
Metal Gear 26.26% 34777
TOTAL VOTES 132410
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red sox 777 posted...
Undertale I think has zero chance of hitting, what was it, Pokemon's 61% or something on SMB3? I think it exceeding its percentage on Fallout 3 isn't out of the question at all though.


I think he's referring to the implied 74% RBY was getting from rallied votes, and comparing that with the rallied votes in this match.


RBY probably breaks 70% even naturally. The only one of our last few contests that Sonic stuff didn't do (especially) badly in was the 2010 character contest. Quite frankly Mario 3 probably breaks 70% indirectly.

To think a fourpack with some of the most acclaimed games of last gen was so weak.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
how on earth were Mega Man and Samus some of the NNers who performed best (least bad?)


There's no way that wasn't Link.
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ctesjbuvf posted...


CT has better chances than SMW because we actually have a place to rally effectively. Not saying it's a good chance though.


Which place?


Nick has a facebook fanpage for Chrono Trigger that has a pretty high amount of followers. It certainly helps it, but I don't think enough of them care for it to beat Undertale.
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I suppose you're right, it's just that Link looked to be unquestionably weaker than usual while Samus and Mega Man less so. The only evidence for a Samus drop was her match against Tifa and not many really sad anything about it.

Admittedly 57% on an FFVII character in a contest where Cloud loses to Squirtle, and 54% on someone who hasn't been in anything since 2010 is not very assuring. Then again with how Metroid games are beasting through this contest...then again Valve and Mario stuff has consistently bombed this contest. What's up with us finding so many kinds of game that are bombing? Speaking of which, with FFVI failing to break 55% on Wind Waker and Mario World losing today, so much for SNESfear I guess. Then again both those series have laid eggs-a-plenty all contest.
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red sox 777 posted...
70% update you say? How about a 73% match!

Tournament Semifinal: The Legend of Zelda vs. Metal Gear
The Legend of Zelda 73.74% 97633
Metal Gear 26.26% 34777
TOTAL VOTES 132410


Legend of Zelda only breaking 73% on a two game series exclusively from the 1980s seems pretty weak to me
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Is the joke relating to how the MGS series has bombed all contest.

...Metal Gear has bombed, Mario has bombed, Final Fantasy has bombed outside of some good showings from IV, VI, and IX, Zelda has not looked so hot lately, hey at least Metroid is doing well lol.
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If anything, this match should add to SNES fear, SMW has looked really great!
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How has it looked great exactly?
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Been avoiding this board today for fear of drowning in toxicity, but two things:

1) oh my god, these votals
2) LOL SONIC
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12/1/2015 2:57:43 PM#85
SMW fought its heart out yeah. We are over 40,000 votes ahead of yesterday already, so we'll be surpassing the amount of votes rallied in the Fallout match within the next half hour.
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Sometimes I think Undertale stopped beasting. Then it turns out it's just creative's site giving us an update in less than 5 minutes.
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How has it looked great exactly?


I know it's losing, but you know what it's been against. The rally was insanely much stronger than last round and SMW held it back for a very long time.
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12/1/2015 2:58:56 PM#88
SMW has now exceeded Ocarina of Time's final vote tally against Hearthstone, with more than 6 hours to go.
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anyway, I beat Undertale earlier today and I can at least understand the obsession now

still rooting for it to lose though, I love a good underdog like OoT
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I can't hear SMW's excuses over it losing the lead more quickly than any of Undertale's other opponents

and getting the lowest percentage by the end of this match

and losing by the most votes

it's a lot of noise, you understand
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12/1/2015 3:04:00 PM#93
Ha, Mario is getting scorched by Bowser in that pic. Normally, I'd prefer SM64 but I think I'll toss TP a vote to try to build hype for OOT.
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Pics matter

...okay, the spillover will probably matter more

but Twilight Princess is going to win
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TP going out to scout Undertale's strength so it can report to OoT.

link just plays the game levels beyond anyone else
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I'm leaning Prime and SM64.
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Who the hell would vote for that bumbling scorched Mario

I would vote SM64 over most of the bracket and I still might abstain out of principle
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I can't hear SMW's excuses over it losing the lead more quickly than any of Undertale's other opponents

and getting the lowest percentage by the end of this match

and losing by the most votes

it's a lot of noise, you understand


You're ignoring some very important facts here. When Mass Effect 3 ends up second in the x-stats, are you going to argue that it's the second strongest game here? Look at the total votes this match has. Undertale has way more votes than it had in the other matches. The total votes are way higher. We are very close to reaching the total votes from the Fallout 3 match already. SMW already has more votes than Fallout 3 had by the end of the match. Just because Undertale increased a whole lot more from last round than the difference in strength Fallout 3 and SMW has doesn't mean that SMW isn't looking really impressive here.
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Lied to is? I found his "my wife" comments slightly suspect, but it's still unlikely he lied IMO.

What else was suspicious? Perhaps a misunderstanding.


I find the wife comments a little bit more than slightly suspect, tbqh. And he implied that no one from GameFAQS had contacted Reddit in the first place on the day of Draven/Mewtwo/Sephiroth.

I don't recall what happened.

What's the timeline of reddit contacts from him and his wife? What did he imply as you say.
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