GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1229
But
then, a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom. The
great evil that all thought had been forever sealed away by the hero
once again crept forth from the depths of the earth, eager to resume its
dark designs. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~ http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://www.thengamer.com/ http://thengamer.com/xstats ~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame ~*Character Contest Histories*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the Match Pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php But then, a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom. The great evil that all thought had been forever sealed away by the hero once again crept forth from the depths of the earth, eager to resume its dark designs. ~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~ https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0 ~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense. Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. (edited 12/1/2015 1:45:18 PM)report |
Match is done, nothing to discuss So... Metroid Prime>Skyrim? --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
whoa, did a stats topic fill before someone made a new one? during contest season? --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
Bringing in newcomers for a couple of days is worthless if it drives down interest among regulars for every other day. It's easy to measure short term traffic gains. How do you measure long term negative effects due to rally caused unhappiness? If there even was such a thing, which I doubt. Contests are likely better for site traffic than no contests. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Continued: The Mana Sword posted... I'm always thinking about if it's the last contest when we're only pulling in 38k votes in a 24 hours match, Undertale or not! You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. The contests pulling in low votes isn't because the contests aren't cared about anymore - there wouldn't be a strong reaction like today's otherwise. The low votes are symptomatic of GameFAQs users not visiting the home page or message boards as much in the past, which is indicative of poor site health as the site is based on user-submitted content. When considering that, these contests doubling the amount of people that visit the site per day (that don't just google a FAQ and get the direct link to it) would actually be considered extremely beneficial to the site's long-term health. If even 5% of them stick around, that's very helpful. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KamikazePotato posted... Spoilers: the amount of people leaving B8 in a huff because 'their contests are ruined' is going to be a lot less than amount of newcomers and press GameFAQs is going to get out of this. Both numbers probably won't even be that large, but yeah. If the amount of people interested in a future contest decreases by ~10% because of constant rallies, then any temporary benefit from rallies would probably be erased. I don't think that's that crazy a number. People certainly lost interest in GameSpot's contests as time went on. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
Nanis23 posted... So... I'm sticking with Skyrim. Not sure how the spillover will affect the match. I thought Skyrim ranked pretty highly on that top 10 or 20 list someone posted. Though I don't remember if/where Metroid was. A lot more excited for SM64/TP. That's the main event IMO. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
I
wanted to post something to hype Link as the hero, and was really
surprised when I got enough time to go hunt for a Wind Waker quote! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Undertale
is the closest thing to fun this contest has had ZFS and I've never
even played it! Sure some results have been kinda surprising I guess,
but it would've been more interesting to see what games from 2011-2015
made it to the division final in an era split than seeing what feels
like the same old thing minus Undertale. I'm probably in the minority
here though because I just think the games contests are boring in
general. Might even say the contests overall are because aside from
rallies like Undertale and Draven this site's voting base is like the
same group of people that haven't left the site in ages picking the same
things over and over again. It's like watching a bunch of old people
who only want to watch 1 tv station or something. |
KamikazePotato posted...
We have no reason to think that though. And we have previous evidence to back that theory up. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
xp1337 posted...
This will be a good match --- satoru iwata |
creativename posted... How do you measure long term negative effects due to rally caused unhappiness? Not as hard as you would think. I would just track the account activity of longtime users on the Contest Board and see if that starts dropping during or directly after the contest season ends - to a lower degree than it was during the general offseason, then control for other factors like natural decreased forum activity over time. I seriously doubt there's any significant effect though. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Not as hard as you would think. I would just track the account activity of longtime users on the Contest Board and see if that starts dropping during or directly after the contest season ends - to a lower degree than it was during the general offseason, then control for other factors like natural decreased forum activity over time. I seriously doubt there's any significant effect though. I doubt there will be any significant effect. People don't leave because their favorite character lost to Link for the umpteenth time, they're not going to leave just because it lost to Undertale. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
There's been like 5 people who made "Hi, I'm new to the contest board, this place isn't bad" topics in the past week or so We probably get a few newcomers out of this. If we don't...well, what else is new. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 12/1/2015 1:51:34 PM)report |
ed bellis left us since draven happened so I'm pretty sure this has had a negative effect on gamefaqs as a whole --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
ZFS posted... xp1337 posted... The rally spillover will probably not be kind to Mario. |
xp1337 posted... Nanis23 posted...So... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13V_sjThl_WvS6CzQ4cRAUMVcpIwuYy4MC6m9Uz8b6Zk/edit#gid=1647357978&vpid=A1 The List is going to need to be hyper-accurate for Skyrim's 2 vote lead on Metroid Prime to matter! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I miss FireMage and his friend from last contest --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
The Mana Sword posted... ed bellis left us since draven happened so I'm pretty sure this has had a negative effect on gamefaqs as a whole i always kind of hoped that was a temporary thing like how jeff zero leaves for unspecified periods of time but always returns to us --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
KamikazePotato posted... creativename posted...How do you measure long term negative effects due to rally caused unhappiness? The vast majority of people who follow the Contest aren't Board 8 regulars though. We are like the hardcore that follow a television show all the way until the bitter end no matter how bad it gets. Most people just ditch things when the show starts to go south. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
I
will admit that that top 100 list from last year was a major reason why
I couldn't convince myself to pick Prime over Skyrim. The former
managed to be in the top 15, something just about no one would expect to
be true in a contest setting, yet Skyrim still outranked it. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
If
you're not a contest regular, then you're not going to leave the site
over a contest. You're going to nerd rage out about it for a day and
then something else that's shiny will come along and distract you. And if you're a contest regular then you know the score by now. People don't leave because of contests, they leave because of real life or just getting bored of the board. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
no no no I don't mean THE LIST. Someone had a list of top games on tumblr or something. Skyrim was pretty high up there, IIRC. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Aside
from my MGS3 to semifinal pick (which will be a bracket-breaker), I'm
most worried about having picked Skyrim for tomorrow. The leftover rallyers are by-and-large going to support anything Nintendo over any WRPG --- sharp. distance. |
Like,
BY FAR the most dangerous thing to potential for future contests is
what SBAllen wants to do. He organizes the things, so if he doesn't feel
like doing them anymore, yeah. I legitimately didn't think we were
getting another contest after how awfully the board treated him over
Draven. He said he was just having fun with things this time around, so we're probably getting another contest. Simple as that. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
also kinda wonder how this affects the site's image. It's no secret
that GameFAQs is looked down upon across most of the internet, the
forums especially. Not claiming it's negative, it could be good, I dunno! Would be interesting to see what people think. They probably just forget about the site afterwards, I'd guess. --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
GameFAQs is always going to have a bad image. It kinda deserves
a bad image, or have you not seen the board's state when non-regulars
show up? We forget about that because B8 is a cool place but head over
to Nonstop Gaming general sometime and see how reasonable they are.
That's the average GameFAQs board. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KamikazePotato posted...
The off season is so boring Im probably just going to leave the board when this contest ends and only come back in the next contest 1-2 years from now And likely won't be active on the board when the eventual complaining about the next new rally thing starts up again --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes |
Yeah, regulars are very unlikely to leave over this. I mean, I'm way more down about how this contest is turning out that I think I've let on, but I have never thought for a moment I'd leave Board 8 or the site over it. The contests were something I always enjoyed, but I like the community too and that's why I stay. It might be a bit disrupted now but it'll all settle down in the off-season like it always does. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
After
the last character contest I'd like to just see character contests
really. That one was fun and shook up all kinds of results. Without the
rallies or "invaders" it would've been so dull. |
GameFAQs Contests| 511| 3319412/1 | 4:59PM Life, the Universe, and Everything| 204 | 8432| 12/1 | 4:58PM Hmm......not sure what the purge rate is on LUE, but we've got 4x the active posts now. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
KamikazePotato posted... GameFAQs is always going to have a bad image. It kinda deserves a bad image, or have you not seen the board's state when non-regulars show up? We forget about that because B8 is a cool place but head over to Nonstop Gaming general sometime and see how reasonable they are. That's the average GameFAQs board. I never get the people who say this. There are very, very few gaming forums where the average active board allows good discussion. It's always the less populated, more tight-knitted boards that promote civil discussion wherever you go. The "negative image" GameFAQs has on other sites is the stereotypical view every forum has for most others. --- http://i.imgur.com/8t1rzi1.gif |
red sox 777 posted... Hmm......not sure what the purge rate is on LUE, but we've got 4x the active posts now. LUE's earliest post is 11/25 8:53 PM. (EST) So... I guess a week? I look at the numbers occasionally but I think during the offseason LUE tends to keep about even with Board 8 in topics, but Board 8 has substantially more posts. I've always figured it's because Board 8 tends to collect high post topics from projects and such. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? (edited 12/1/2015 2:04:57 PM)report |
Fallout still had (barely) the lead at that point in time. I guess for all the resistance SMW showed at the beginning, in the end, the result will be pretty ugly for it. |
KamikazePotato posted... Like, BY FAR the most dangerous thing to potential for future contests is what SBAllen wants to do. He organizes the things, so if he doesn't feel like doing them anymore, yeah. I legitimately didn't think we were getting another contest after how awfully the board treated him over Draven. You mean when he lied to us multiple times? And attempted to fix the results of the contest? And didn't have the proper technical staff on hand on the busiest day of the year? --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
Yeah, you're part of the problem. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
LOLContests posted... KamikazePotato posted...Like, BY FAR the most dangerous thing to potential for future contests is what SBAllen wants to do. He organizes the things, so if he doesn't feel like doing them anymore, yeah. I legitimately didn't think we were getting another contest after how awfully the board treated him over Draven. wow well I hope you're f***in happy, cuz this is the last contest we're ever gonna get because of this comment --- Communists |
Well I see we've moved to the Undertale death march portion of the match in my absence --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Undertale
actually hasn't shot up to the mid-300s in vote intake it pulled
against Fallout. It's in the mid-200s, where it's been since morning.
The problem is, SMW has fallen off to below 150. A lot of that is
because Gamefaqs is so frontloaded now, there aren't many natural votes
coming in at this time of day anymore. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Yesmar, you really need to knock it off dude. I very highly doubt that you'd be whining about a rally that happened to be in favor of whatever is in your bracket. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
Ex-Kefiroth posted... Aside from my MGS3 to semifinal pick (which will be a bracket-breaker), I'm most worried about having picked Skyrim for tomorrow. Well Skyrim 60-40'd a Nintendo game last round! --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
CSplitter posted... KamikazePotato posted...GameFAQs is always going to have a bad image. It kinda deserves a bad image, or have you not seen the board's state when non-regulars show up? We forget about that because B8 is a cool place but head over to Nonstop Gaming general sometime and see how reasonable they are. That's the average GameFAQs board. Yeah, internet communities as a whole are a dark place. GameFAQs is average as a community. It's just that the core site function is outdated. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Lied to is? I found his "my wife" comments slightly suspect, but it's still unlikely he lied IMO. What else was suspicious? Perhaps a misunderstanding. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
UltimaterializerX posted... Yesmar, you really need to knock it off dude. What do brackets have to do with anything? No one's gaining points on me cause of this. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
Wow, went away for an hour and Undertale basically doubles its lead to 5k. --- 3DS FC: 1805-2178-2522 NNID: Scarlettail |
creativename posted... Lied to is? I found his "my wife" comments slightly suspect, but it's still unlikely he lied IMO. I find the wife comments a little bit more than slightly suspect, tbqh. And he implied that no one from GameFAQS had contacted Reddit in the first place on the day of Draven/Mewtwo/Sephiroth. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
I don't get all the negativity about Undertale/Allen here He didn't do anything wrong and there is nothing to rage about because Undertale winning Do I like it? No, but it doesn't make me mad, this isn't Draven Also if I of all people say that I can't ubderstand the negativity, it means a lot --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
I
feel like this stuff would bother me less if we has contests more
often. But we have them so rarely that what this rally takes away is
just completely lost. The Mario Gauntlet featuring RBY, Chrono Trigger
vs. Final Fantasy VII, the winner of those vs. each other. All something
we wont get now. People saying Undertale winning isn't set in stone are
just being optimistic. CT looked like it could actually give OoT a run.
We wont know though. And now things are less predictable? Pre-contest
maybe but certainly not otherwise. That's what sucks. Not these matches
in themselves as what we're missing out on, perhaps, for several more
years. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
