Well Tumblr being better than Reddit lasted exactly 2 rounds. Time for buttdevastation
hey why don't we just scratch divisions 3-8 from the record and say this contest only had division 1 and 2
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Like I would rather take my chances against Undertale than a Pokemon that beat Undertale that is a legitimately terrifying idea I would be concerned that OOT wouldn't even be competitive
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I'm a little worried about OOT being perceived as the favorite by most of the voters. It's been acclaimed as greatest of all time for 17 years not just here, but everywhere. The narrative of Undertale as the underdog challenging OOT may be hard to dispel.
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The Mana Sword posted...
missingno beat crono in round 1


Time to find the stats topics when it happened!


ToadYoshi | Posted 2/14/2010 9:09:45 AM | message detail
This is not anyone's game. Missingno is going to tank after this.

hellfire104 | Posted 2/14/2010 9:05:54 AM | message detail
After this board vote, Missingno is going to sink like a rock.

This is why I love contests
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Remember when people talked about this rally having a ceiling?
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I don't think Ocarina of Time would be considered an underdog to anyone but maybe GameFAQs people who follow along, or board 8. The good news, though, is what you mentioned -- people everywhere have that acknowledgement and respect for OoT as one of those shortlist 'best game of all-time.' It's not even just a nostalgia thing, it's how a lot of websites and people feel even today. So I think that makes it a harder target to rally against.

Unless it's super Pokemon my god people would be singing the TV song and probably dusting off their copies and SMELL YA LATER
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Remember when people talked about this rally having a ceiling?


It actually looks like it does. The rally is probably bigger now than it was last time, but Undertale's not increasing its lead by 200 every update like it was doing before. There is a ceiling. It's just really high.
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ZFS posted...
I don't think Ocarina of Time would be considered an underdog to anyone but maybe GameFAQs people who follow along, or board 8. The good news, though, is what you mentioned -- people everywhere have that acknowledgement and respect for OoT as one of those shortlist 'best game of all-time.' It's not even just a nostalgia thing, it's how a lot of websites and people feel even today. So I think that makes it a harder target to rally against.

Unless it's super Pokemon my god people would be singing the TV song and probably dusting off their copies and SMELL YA LATER


I CHOOSE YOU! POKEMON!

Use Nostalgia Attack!

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ZFS posted...
this is how Ocarina of Time becomes the Hero of GameFAQs I'm just sayin even the ExThas and KARMA HUNTERS (!) will back OOT come final time this is how Undertale is stopped


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ZFS posted...
Like I would rather take my chances against Undertale than a Pokemon that beat Undertale that is a legitimately terrifying idea I would be concerned that OOT wouldn't even be competitive


I dunno about that.

If pokemon wins against undertale it will be because of a counter-rally or the Undertale rally backfiring (this second option is less likely)

If pokemon beats undertale, then the whole rally fest will die down because the people that votes for the sake of trolling won't have a way to piss people of: Much more people would be pissed of if undertale wins (just look at the forums) than if pokemon did, thus they won't get their reward for the trolling and leave.
FF7 is like the Internet's enemy

I mean Squirtle beat Cloud man
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Trust me my buttfuriousness if Pokemon wins will be enough for them to stick around
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I mean, of course there is a ceiling as there is a finite number of people on Tumblr, but what does that matter if you're not half into that ceiling and still get crushed? Undertale will steamroll everything and that especally includes GameFAQs darling OoT.
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The only reason Draven kind of had a relevant ceiling was because the LoL subreddit mods usually didn't care that much about whether he won and mostly just wanted to avoid having their subreddit clogged by rally threads so they only let one thread exist at a time, which would eventually fall off the front page. However, they were fully capable of either stopping Draven dead or giving him a major boost by changing what they were allowing - or being manipulated into changing it. And we saw both happen.

Tumblr's decentralized nature means this rally can't really be stopped from the top like that. It'll just keep rolling.
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Omniscientless posted...
I mean, of course there is a ceiling as there is a finite number of people on Tumblr, bit what does that matter if you're not half into that ceiling and still get crushed? Undertale will steamroll everything and that especally includes GameFAQs darling OoT.


I don't think we ever had an explantion to how Link stood up against Draven
It was close to a miracle
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Nanis23 posted...
Omniscientless posted...
I mean, of course there is a ceiling as there is a finite number of people on Tumblr, bit what does that matter if you're not half into that ceiling and still get crushed? Undertale will steamroll everything and that especally includes GameFAQs darling OoT.


I don't think we ever had an explantion to how Link stood up against Draven
It was close to a miracle


I think its pretty obvious Link was cheating
ZFS posted...
FF7 is like the Internet's enemy

I mean Squirtle beat Cloud man


This was before the resurgence.

You have to believe, man. We are like AVALANCHE here. Undertale is basically Shin-ra
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Link had Facebook rallying from some pretty serious players, /v/ rallying, reddit rallying, and probably some sketchy stuff on top of all that. Didn't matter in the end, especially because of the League of Downtime~
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Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
Link had a mixture of backfire votes and his own rallies. The thing about Zelda is that it's not hard to rally for, it's just how often do you need to do that? It's a top 10 game/series almost everywhere. It doesn't ever need rallies out of necessity, until something like Draven or Undertale happens.
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I do believe that if Undertale defeats our the Final Fantasy VII, OoT will be a worthy hero.

Despite my ZeldaFAQs hatred, OoT is a legitimately god-tier game.
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ZFS posted...
Link had a mixture of backfire votes and his own rallies. The thing about Zelda is that it's not hard to rally for, it's just how often do you need to do that? It's a top 10 game/series almost everywhere. It doesn't ever need rallies out of necessity, until something like Draven or Undertale happens.


It's not like Zelda doesn't lose. Where was all the heavy Wind Waker rallying against FFVI?
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Karma Hunter posted...
ZFS posted...
Link had a mixture of backfire votes and his own rallies. The thing about Zelda is that it's not hard to rally for, it's just how often do you need to do that? It's a top 10 game/series almost everywhere. It doesn't ever need rallies out of necessity, until something like Draven or Undertale happens.


It's not like Zelda doesn't lose. Where was all the heavy Wind Waker rallying against FFVI?


I think people let things go like that. It's like "Oh, Wind Waker in round 3 vs another good game, whatever there's like 4 more zelda games" vs "Oh, its the finals and its OoT, time to win" you know?
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And like people talk to me about backfiring and then I see Undertale slapping SMW around for nearly 70% on updates. Yeah, backfiring is real, but there's some serious overestimation of how much it does. SMW getting significantly counterrallied today is probably as responsible for it staying afloat as any backfire advantage it had on FO3.
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That's why I specified something like Draven or Undertale, where people feel compelled to fight back against the rallies with their own because those games or characters aren't naturally that popular. I mean some of that does require people follow the contest to some extent, but you don't need many people for a rally to be effective.
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I should say, you don't need very many people for a rally to start and be effective. You obviously need to reach a lot of people for it to do what it's supposed to.
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UT's picked up the pace some, over 2000 vote lead now.
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If Zelda fans liked WW enough to rally it against FFVI, WW wouldn't be worlds weaker than OOT to start with.

Also, your obligatory reminder: Crono got 12,000 more votes in 12 hours on missingno than Undertale got in 15 hours today.
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Karma Hunter posted...
And like people talk to me about backfiring and then I see Undertale slapping SMW around for nearly 70% on updates. Yeah, backfiring is real, but there's some serious overestimation of how much it does. SMW getting significantly counterrallied today is probably as responsible for it staying afloat as any backfire advantage it had on FO3.


SMW is getting seriously counterralied? Where, outside of the Mario subreddit?
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Based on the last half hour, Undertale wins by 11,000 votes.
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red sox 777 posted...
If Zelda fans liked WW enough to rally it against FFVI, WW wouldn't be worlds weaker than OOT to start with.

Also, your obligatory reminder: Crono got 12,000 more votes in 12 hours on missingno than Undertale got in 15 hours today.


Your obligatory reminder that vote totals were much higher in 2010 than they are now.

Cloud/Link got 130,000 votes in the final with no known rallies of any kind.
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/v/. They've mostly given up/turned on SMW to start savoring the GameFAQs saltiness but there's still a few topics kicking around that haven't purged yet, and they've been rallying all match up to now.
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The whining is going to be so great when Undertale > OOT happens
we deserve this for the horrible response we've given as a board. I wouldn't blame the Internet for ripping the contest to shreds after how we've acted.

Ocarina's going to get killed if it gets that far. I'd honestly give CT or RBY a better shot. you don't get to the final and drop the ball with this kind of support. Zelda isn't THAT much more popular than everything else.
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And Ocarina of Time will absolutely need a sizable rally and/or Undertale converts in order to win. In my mind, the key here, aside from ZELDA, is that it's in the finals and it's for the winner of the contest, which makes rallying a bit easier and more effective. I dunno, I don't people are gonna go as hard or convince as many people to vote a Mario in round 3 versus Ocarina of Time in the finals for the championship.
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T4libKw4li posted...
The whining is going to be so great when Undertale > OOT happens


Nah, the board will have moved on to the fifth stage of grief by that point.
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That's my point, Leon!

KH, Undertale is averaging updates in the low 60s, that matches up perfectly well with a backfire rate in the high 20s. SMW, Pokemon, and Undertale's vote intake are all pretty well correlated, and the tumblr rally is so huge. Any SMW counterrallies big enough to matter more than backfire would be really stealthy to not show up in the trends.
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Karma Hunter posted...
/v/. They've mostly given up/turned on SMW to start savoring the GameFAQs saltiness but there's still a few topics kicking around that haven't purged yet, and they've been rallying all match up to now.


I don't know how much pro SMW /v/ is, because every f***ing day there is a 500 replies undertale topic there
Which also cause the other people to hate it, so I guess 50/50?
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ZFS posted...
And Ocarina of Time will absolutely need a sizable rally and/or Undertale converts in order to win. In my mind, the key here, aside from ZELDA, is that it's in the finals and it's for the winner of the contest, which makes rallying a bit easier and more effective. I dunno, I don't people are gonna go as hard or convince as many people to vote a Mario in round 3 versus Ocarina of Time in the finals for the championship.


This applies to the Undertale ralliers, too.

They're not going to get all the way to the finals and then scale back.
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Karma Hunter posted...
savoring the GameFAQs saltiness


dammit why is this a thing


why do we do this board 8 it only helps the bad guys
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Omniscientless posted...
I mean, of course there is a ceiling as there is a finite number of people on Tumblr, but what does that matter if you're not half into that ceiling and still get crushed? Undertale will steamroll everything and that especially includes GameFAQs darling OoT.


I think people are mentally prepared for it though. The winner of RBY / Undertale wins this contest. No doubt in my mind.
I was going to say it applies to Undertale, too, but it's also up against a much more popular force than anything else it will have faced barring Pokemon. I don't like what I'm talking myself into
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T4libKw4li posted...
The whining is going to be so great when Undertale > OOT happens


If Undertale reachs the final, Undertale being the winner is pretty much confirmed
Nobody is going to get salty over this, UNLESS we are going to see League of Downtime strikes again ("Downtale"? na)
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GameFAQs in general will get more and more behind Undertale the more it wins, too.

We're already seeing that.
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/v/'s natural inclination isn't to support SMW, which is why the backfire rate was so high (based on straw polls taken in the threads, it was in the low 30s). But there have been threads going on nonstop, continuously, unceasingly, without end - because they have been constantly been made by B8ers desperate to salvage their bracket.

(this, by the way, would be the kind of behavior that tranman alluded to in terms of "WE DESERVE THIS")

Undertale is naturally gaining steam as it did the last two matches, but some of that is also SMW comparatively falling off, because the counterralliers have lost hope. Before that, B8ers were making a pretty concerted pitch to draw in those who would be predisposed to vote SMW and making anti-tumblr overtures to maximize as many votes as possible.
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has anyone tried rallying LUE

that'd be like a 0% backfire rate right
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