Achromatic posted...
... Chrono Trigger and Crono have nothing to do with each other, creativename? That's a ... creative use of things!

Literally conflating things again.

I said nothing about Crono, what are you talking about..? I said you were saying "this is the same" when there were no similarities. It's only in your mind :)

pjbasis posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Let me put it this way - I've put up with Link and FF7 winning for 10 years. Let me have one year, sheesh!


I'm curious though, what about Undertale winning do you actually enjoy? For me, when I see Chrono Cross beating WoW and SA, I feel somewhat vindicated. Like it gets s*** on so much, but then hey, a lot of people do like it!

But let's say CC won the whole contest because I gathered up tens of thousands of CC fans that don't normally see these polls, that doesn't mean anything. CC isn't more popular than Ocarina of Time, or Chrono Trigger. The poll was just fixed. Rather than hitting a random sample of a segment of the gaming population, it was heavily injected with a very specific demographic.

So...what do you like about this? Just the very literal result?

I don't mind self defense rallies at all, but I get what you're saying.

I personally prefer Chrono Trigger to OoT. But I wouldn't want it to win because of a rally or bandwagon. If it's legit stronger I'd feel proud in a way, kinda like with a friend getting success. By bandwagon it would be less proud, but it'd still be a GameFAQs thing. If it won by rallying though, I'd be upset, not proud.
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Undertales journey hopefully ends here.
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Qwaar posted...
Undertales journey hopefully ends here.


Even if it doesn't , as long as it's not a draven round 2 level rally, RBY should be favored next round.
It's easier to rally for Pokemon and it will steal more votes.
Votals today are holding at about 20% higher than last round. I think SMW has a much better chance than most people are giving it credit for. With the improved votals I think it can build a lead of 12,000+ by the time Fallout peaked last round.
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Yeah, it seems like Undertale will have a tough time here the more I think about it.

I do love SMW, but I still like this underdog pushing through. It's not like SMW will win the contest or get close to that anyway. UT vs RBY sounds like a pretty intense match already.
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you guys are giving yourselves false hope here
incidentally, my least favorite thing about this rally is how many people doubt it

like I want you guys to be right, but you're wrong and it hurts
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Time to guess the top 10!

Ocarina of Time - 50%
Chrono Trigger - 48%
Final Fantasy VII - 46%
A Link to the Past - 44%
Pokemon RBY - 39%
Super Mario World - 38%
Super Mario 64 - 38%
Super Mario Bros. 3 - 37%
Final Fantasy VI - 35%
Super Smash Bros. Melee - 34%
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Undertale-50%
Mass Effect 3-49%

ayy
Mario and Yoshi are about to take the Genocide route through Undertale
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Janus5k posted...
incidentally, my least favorite thing about this rally is how many people doubt it

like I want you guys to be right, but you're wrong and it hurts

I was wondering if I was the only one who felt this way. >_>
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KamikazePotato posted...
Draven was a bad rally because it brought the League of Legends subreddit with it. Undertale fans that have come here have been downright polite. Way moreso than the actual board!

Also GameFAQs isn't going to have any hidden gems at this point. We're set in our ways; this contest has basically proven that old > new forever. And as fun as it is to watch CT go bonkers, I don't think anyone here would actually seriously entertain picking it over OoT.

SOTC was a hidden gem. No one saw that coming.

To a much lesser extent, Suikoden II was a hidden gem as well. That could've scored a huge upset elsewhere.

And I would entertain CT>OoT, especially with a bandwagon. It's possible CT is a fraud. But we've gotten three rounds of very consistent results.

Either way though, I don't think that should be a huge knock against it. There are plenty of strong games here that have boring matches all the time.

If having an interesting match is one of the only legit things in its favor in terms of being healthy for the contest, that is a real knock against it.

And I find matches that are back and forth from the start than matches that will have some big swing at an unknown point in the middle.
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I'd like to see more games contests that only include more recent games. We could still have a "Game of the Generation" for 7th gen since there's still a few stragglers coming out (i.e. Persona 5). Or "Best Game Since 2001" (or 2002 if Melee and FFX are gonna make that too boring).
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We already had game of the decade for 2000-2009! 90s games are what this site loves, its what we should have in contests.
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So how much does Wind Waker beat Smash Wii U by?

Ans how much does Chrono Trigger beat FFVII by?
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it's almost Undertale time eh

KP I think you're whining as much as anyone. people can be upset about the result. we don't have to legitimize it just because it's a smaller game. Undertale is already so huge on the internet right now that I don't think it needs more exposure, but whatever, I know what it's like to champion that indie game.
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Awesome pics.
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/r3/43.jpg
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My god this is not even a choice
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KamikazePotato posted...
Januzaj_Dragon posted...
Imagine undertale goes down. There will be so much tears from people.


I don't think so. I don't even know if I want Undertale to keep winning at this point - it might be worth it to lose just for people to stop complaining about it.

Basically, http://i.imgur.com/uBCv0rS.png


pjbasis posted...
So...what do you like about this? Just the very literal result?


Yeah. It's a nice underdog narrative to follow (even if it's probably the favorite at this point). I wouldn't care as much as if it was for...say, Melee, a game that I equally love, because Melee is already popular and well-known. Undertale is a game where its recognition and sales numbers could actually be greatly helped by doing something like winning a GameFAQs contest. It would also shake up the GameFAQs paradigm of the same games always doing well - one of the worst parts about this contest is how stagnant everything is. I'd be liking it about as much if, say, Skies of Arcadia was doing the same thing even though it probably wouldn't lead to many news fans. Dark Souls too.

It's just something I like to see. The previous Undertale matches cheered me up on bad days.


Spoilers, the best and most popular games are for the most part going to be the strongest on this site, or any other site for that matter. People will always give an edge to a nostalgic game anywhere you go, unless you find a website that is full of 5-13 year olds. And in that case, Minecraft would just win everything.
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lol xstats
oh god the color gap in Undertale/Mario World

I think that FF7 number is a bit much, red sox, for whatever it's worth. I'd love to see you extrapolate games off of that (mass effect, kotor, etc)
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Anyone else feeling a Sonic overpeformance based on the pic? Or does the Undertale bull**** result in a 70-30 beatdown for Pokemon?
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70/30 beat down seems reasonable even without the rally.

it's impossible to tell how that goes with the tumblrers voting. they can prefer Pokemon but still do so less than GF.
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SMW is gonna do well, but Undertale's real obstacle for the championship will be Pokemon RBY. Vote totals will likely continue to grow, the backfire rate for rallying will be at its highest outside of maybe LoZ:OoT, and I'm still hanging on to RBY > SMW naturally.

Undertale's rally is gonna be more powerful than before each round, too. We already saw it from ME3 to FO3. Tumblr will continue getting more prepared, and word of mouth is doing wonders for its exposure as a new indie game. Lots of people are mad about the rally, sure, but look how many people are checking it out too.

I get the rally-hate, I do and I agree with it in a lot of ways...but if people want GameFAQs to expand their tastes, Undertale's showing us one way to have people try something new.

I don't recall if LoL got a big boost in people here trying it out after Draven's buttchampionship, to be fair. I watched some streams of it after the fact, but I don't know about others here.
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
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My god this is not even a choice


I know, right?

Didn't think they'd try and swing it even MORE in Undertale's favor!
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Lol one of the witcher 3 Devs just liked my twitter post about the GFaqs rally.

A few days too late man. He had over 23k followers. Could have done something
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What %age would Undertale need for it to be the favorite over Pokemon in people's eyes? (assuming it wins)

For me it's 53%-54%. If it breaks that then it means the rally is still growing a lot round to round.

Unless it gets something crazy though, I wouldn't count Pokemon out totally, as it should have a significantly higher backfire rate. And the higher Undertale goes, the more the backfire rate matters.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
Lol one of the witcher 3 Devs just liked my twitter post about the GFaqs rally.

A few days too late man. He had over 23k followers. Could have done something


Should have tweeted him a few days earlier!
red sox 777 posted...
Votals today are holding at about 20% higher than last round. I think SMW has a much better chance than most people are giving it credit for. With the improved votals I think it can build a lead of 12,000+ by the time Fallout peaked last round.


I talked a little bit about the improved vote totals with the switch to round 3. One possible explanation for the increase in vote totals is some people are too lazy to vote when you have 4 matches running at the same time, while it's a lot easier (and quicker) to vote when you have just 2 matches running. Of course, the quality of the games has gone up as well and there are very few weak games that have made it to this stage of the contest (as a result of favorable bracket placement).
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I'm guessing that we also may have had some tumblr people that have stayed. In which case... maybe good long-term for the contest, but real bad for any of Undertale's opponents.
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11/30/2015 4:11:11 PM#181
KP is right. Undertale fans have been great.

The whiners are doing their typical things.
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I'm guessing that we also may have had some tumblr people that have stayed. In which case... maybe good long-term for the contest, but real bad for any of Undertale's opponents.

While the average did go up after Undertale's round 2 match I think a lot of it has to do with fewer matches and in general stronger opponents against each other.
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
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Next batch of pics are up.


the nostalgia bursting from within because of these RBY/Sonic 2 pics...
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The big votals jump did not occur until yesterday, with the shift to 2 polls a day.
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HaRRicH posted...
I don't recall if LoL got a big boost in people here trying it out after Draven's buttchampionship, to be fair. I watched some streams of it after the fact, but I don't know about others here.


I did and I know a handful of others who did
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I got into League because of Draven. I had played it before then, but not heavily.

Game's absolutely amazing.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Achromatic posted...
Okay fine.

Crono lost to a Pokemon glitch.

I can do this all day, KH!

Crono has only beaten Mario once. This is the crap I'm talking about. This is the same crap why FFX for some ungodly, dumb reason was the favorite over CT this contest. This is the same reason why people had Samus > Mario.

I'm bad at these contests, self-admitted, but good grief the "logic" that people can be convinced of is silly.

I would literally bet my account on Mario > Crono.


This conversation is very nostalgic to me, because you originally bet your account on my most hyped upset special, Snake/Mega Man 2006 <.<

I had Mario > Samus and I've been very good at calling the Mario/Crono matches historically. In the same year that Crono lost to a Pokemon glitch, Mario let Charizard come within a few percent of an upset.

You know, the same Charizard that lost to Mega Man while he was drowning with Zero in the poll.

Mario has done virtually nothing notable since 2005. I see no reason to trust the guy - Crono lost to the rat in 2013? Mario lost to Vivi.

Pikachu or Vivi, WHO YA GOT


Alright, for one thing, it took a rally for Mario to lose to Vivi. Secondly, his LFF was worse without a doubt. Lastly, 2010 Charizard and 2013 Charizard are in no way the same strength. You can't use that comparison at all. Charizard took a HG/SS release and bandwagon to do that. Look at what Mega Man got against Mario in 2010 and against Charizard in 2013 and that argument completely shatters.

Mario literally ran into the SFF hammer from Link in every single contest since 2005 until 2013, where he had Ganondorf holding him down instead, so where could he impress? Beating MMX and Zack in 2008 was pretty a pretty good shoeing from him.
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Mario being held down worse by Ganondorf than Crono was by Magus is hardly indisputable - there's certainly more separation and independence from Mario and Zelda than there is from one CT character to another CT character. And rally, shmally, Vivi is so much weaker than Mario - or even Pikachu! - that it should have never mattered to begin with.

Mario/Mega Man 2010 is pretty textbook SFF. Charizard being bandwagoned+HG/SS doesn't excuse the reality that Mario should have exerted the Nintendo hierarchy to make sure that match wasn't even close to begin with.

And Link causing Mario to nearly collapse against Zack, a midcarder at best, is not a good result.

The big point here is Mario keeps getting excuse after excuse to cover up his bad results. I'm not saying Crono would have beaten him in 2013 - the Bonus Battle pretty easily refutes that - but it wouldn't take a crazy boost for Crono to turn that match around.

We'd probably be looking at it totally differently if Crono had won the first two Mario/Crono matches before Mario finally turned it around in 2005.
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Like, take the Mario/Vivi comparison out of the picture. Vivi has 41.27% on Mario and Ganondorf combined in that match. That's a hysterically pathetic result considering in the contest directly prior to that Mario is projected to score 68.7% on Vivi in the previous contest. No rallies in the world can account for the indisputable fact that he would have come nowhere close to that no matter how that match went down.
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We should have FFIX beat OoT.

That would certainly make things interesting. And OoT is in my top 5 games of all time.
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Ganondorf as a much heavier anchor than say Bowser for Mario because he's from the more popular franchise in this site while Mario could really use the SFF hammer on Bowser. Same goes for Crono/Magus.

You shouldn't count on any SFF in Mario vs. Mega Man. Pokemon doesn't work into the Nintendo hierarchy like that. We have seen before how well it resists SSF from other Nintendo series. 2010 Zack was totally legit, although he really flopped in 2013.
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UberPyro64 posted...
We should have FFIX beat OoT.

That would certainly make things interesting. And OoT is in my top 5 games of all time.


No.

We should have Symphony of the Night beat OoT.
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I still want a "best generic (non-Pokemon) enemy" contest just so Slime can be a midcarder
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Speaking of engineering desired results
I still want a "best generic (non-Pokemon) enemy" contest just so Slime can be a midcarder


what would even be the favorite there, Goomba?
Mario enemies would be the most powerful, I think (besides Pokemon totally dominating, which is why I excluded them; maybe it would be more interesting just to exclude legendaries/starters (counting Pikachu as a starter) though?)
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There aren't really any 'generic Pokemon enemies'. Even if you just go with 'generic Pokemon', there aren't really any notable ones at least that would make the bracket I think (too much vote-splitting). Maybe Zubat makes it in? In which case it either dominates the field as a joke entry or - more likely I think - gets crushed into dust from the combined rage of traumatized voters upon seeing Wild Zubat Appear Yet Again.
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Pokemon Trainer Joey for generic Pokemon enemy. Would win a few matches at least. Or a Team Rocket member.
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Why would Zubat be a joke entry? It's not like a bracket of generic enemy is going to be filled with anything amazing.
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Also Crono lost to Mario that year with MMX in the poll who oops Vivi > Crono!!
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By "generic" I mean non-unique (like not a named enemy); by this definition, all non-Legendary Pokemon would be "generic", though you could make an argument for excluding starters because you could only get one per game except through trading/breeding. Really though that's kind of an arbitrary exclusion just for the purposes of not having Poke-domination (the legendary exclusion is more legit). So in a Mario game, for instance, Koopas are generic, but Bowser or the Koopa Bros from Paper Mario are not.
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