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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1225
ViviffTheMobile posted... As a pro Brawl player and now pro Smash 4 player...Ulti's amount of greater-thans in front of Brawl is probably closer to reality than it should be. I mean some Brawl players like Brawl more because it was the epitome of being defensive. Every hit in competitive Brawl counts. Melee is the complete opposite and is very offensive. Smash 4 is in between but closer to Brawl than Melee. Brawl also had more advanced tech. From a non-competitive standpoint Brawl also had SSE, a godly OST, and some great fan service all around. That being said I still like Smash 4 more because Brawl is hella jank and I don't enjoy playing something that defensive but if you're a top level Brawl player the reason why you'd play it seem to be obvious to me (you want to play the most defensive Smash). --- RIP in Pieces GamerJM, 2007-2015. You will be missed. #UnPermabanJim |
1337gamerpr0 posted... good thing this FFVI/Wind Waker match wasn't in division 3, I can tell you guys would be pissed about the spillover! Spillover the worst. Ralliers manipulating matches they don't even want to manipulate! Blah --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Hylian88 posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...UberPyro64 posted...If Wind Waker does actually get bandwagon strength if it beats VI and possibly VII. But the art style is amazing. Sailing didn't bother me in the slightest. Swift Sail does make it hard to go back though. The gameplay is the best in the series. --- Video Games are pretty cool. |
ViviffTheMobile posted... As a pro Brawl player and now pro Smash 4 player...Ulti's amount of greater-thans in front of Brawl is probably closer to reality than it should be. This guy was not a pro brawl player, and is likely not a pro smash 4 player either(dunno as I don't follow smash4 as much). He is a competitive player who goes to tournaments and does well at locals, but he's never accomplished anything on a regional or national scale and never really beaten very notable players. He likes to mention he's a "pro" player though in every post he makes about smash lol. --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
SSB4 > Brawl > Melee > Smash 64 Each game has iterated and improved on the previous game in a way that you don't see too often in long running series. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
It's
a good thing Pokemon has animals in it too because I'm pretty sure if
the rally is big enough Sonic 2 could theoretically pull one hell of an
upset depending on what it's paired with --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
This isnt dead or alive. f*** the defensive and counter bulls***. Smash should be 100% offensive free flowing and attacking --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... SSB4 > Brawl > Melee > Smash 64 Improved it for casual players sure. Its ok if youre terrible and you prefer the new ones. Nothing wrong with that --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
I
liked brawl more than smash4, but I play melee atm with occasional PM
so *shrugs*. Mechanics are just too fun to play other smash games. --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
UberPyro64 posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Hylian88 posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...UberPyro64 posted...If Wind Waker does actually get bandwagon strength if it beats VI and possibly VII. I wouldnt go that far but it has better art style than TP. tPs art style was horrid. Is there a more ugly character design than midna? What a horrible waste of space. --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
No way. Melee is far superior gameplay wise to Brawl. Smash Wii U ans Melee are quite different gameplay wise but both have good strengths. Making it easy for both to coexist with each other. Smash Wii U improves on everything Brawl did and made it actually quite good. Brawl simply can't coexist with either game. Its stage builder was better though. --- Video Games are pretty cool. (edited 11/29/2015 11:05:13 PM)report |
Yuri_LowelI posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...SSB4 > Brawl > Melee > Smash 64 RIght, and 99.9% of the people that play those games are casual players. The extremely crazy, extremely vocal minority of people prefer the '1v1 no items, final destination, Fox only' mechanics in Melee over Brawl/4, but those people are clinically insane and their opinions are nullified as a result. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
I
kind of want to go back and play Wind Waker HD, since it seems to have
resolved some of my biggest gripes with the original (the upcoming TP
remake will be nice too), but I just have too many other things I'd
rather be doing (other games, TV shows, movies and books). --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
the irony on these Black Turtle posts right now though |
UberPyro64 posted... No way. Melee is far superior gameplay wise to Brawl. Brawls neutral game was a lot more interesting than smash4s to me, which is a lot of just trying to grab the opponent into flowchart combo. Smash4 doesn't feel very expressive, I watch two people playing the same character and can't tell the difference(though this isn't true of all characters, Ryu looks interesting for example). This is the only smash game to make me feel this way. In melee I know if I'm watching m2k's marth or PPUs. In brawl I know if I'm watching Otori's MK or Antis. In smash 4 I don't know if I'm watching Vinnies or Zeros sheik for example(aside from the obvious playercams etc) because there is so much flowchart stuff and the goal of neutral is so apparent in that game. This is entirely from a competitive view though. I like the games cast and it looks pretty. --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I kind of want to go back and play Wind Waker HD, since it seems to have resolved some of my biggest gripes with the original (the upcoming TP remake will be nice too), but I just have too many other things I'd rather be doing (other games, TV shows, movies and books). You really should. It even made the triforce quest shorter. If you don't like the grindy stuff in that game WWHD helps a ton. The fast sail is so nice. --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Yuri_LowelI posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...SSB4 > Brawl > Melee > Smash 64 What lol. Liking a game competitively does not make you insane, people are attracted to the insane depth of the melee mechanics and the freedom of control it gives you over your character compared to other games. And that saying is a joke in the competitive community, considering most people think FD is the least fair of the stagelist competitive melee uses and it's often not played on much aside from counterpicks in tournament. We also really tried to make items work, but the fact that they spawn in random places and can explode killing you with no counterplay just put too much luck into matches. The competitive community in general also has no problem with people playing the game casually, and more often than you think people play with items and all stages for fun..because they also have fun with the game in that way lol. --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
But I liked the Triforce quest! Fast sailing sounds pretty great, though --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Hylian88 posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Yuri_LowelI posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...SSB4 > Brawl > Melee > Smash 64 But if that was the case, morons that don't shut up about how 'pure and good' Melee is compared to the other games would really have no argument, since Brawl and 4 added more characters, items, stages and mechanics for casual play. Literally the only argument I have ever heard for Melee > Brawl/4 is "lulz u casual n00b! i am t3h gr33t3st f0x play3r in t3h world! fite me 1v1 final destination no items!!!!!!!!!!!111111oneoneoneoneone" --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
The Wind Waker is sort of doing the thing again. --- Video Games are pretty cool. |
Wind Waker is just gonna go down making FFVI look as bad as possible isn't it |
Hylian88 posted... ViviffTheMobile posted...As a pro Brawl player and now pro Smash 4 player...Ulti's amount of greater-thans in front of Brawl is probably closer to reality than it should be. So I didn't team with Zero last weekend and win doubles at a regional/major? I'm not a player who's been sponsored multiple times including now? I'm not far and above the #1 player in my state, winning tournaments in excess of 70 people? I've been on this board for 13 years (yeesh), most people (somewhat) know who I am. Sorry I didn't use "competitive". Just trying to make fun of Brawl. --- Viviff on the go! (or from the toilet) http://i.minus.com/iUSn0BlyRplGN.gif |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Hylian88 posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Yuri_LowelI posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...SSB4 > Brawl > Melee > Smash 64 Brawl and smash 4 took away mechanics, not added them. That is the reason most competitive players prefer melee, because it's faster/has more options. It's combo system is incredibly complex as what both players are doing matters rather than just the person doing the combo, it's a game that has no end or walls to improvement, and the amount of depth in skill the game offers is almost unmatched between any game, not just the other smash games. Casually, most melee players would agree that brawl/smash4 have more, but they enjoy melee because of it's competitive appeal, so that's a non-issue/argument. The most vocal melee supporters that bash other games are generally bad players who do horribly in tournaments, and are also usually new to the melee community and try to feel superior or elitest by bashing other games since they suck at melee and can't feel cool there. If you look at the top players(even like all the way to top 200) for melee, most are perfectly fine with the other games, and encourage people to play whatever they like. It really sucks that we have vocal scumbags in our community that hate on the other games so much, they aren't very respected or acknowledged, they just make us look bad. --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
how much does Smash 4 need to put on FFX right now for FF7=CT? |
ViviffTheMobile posted... Hylian88 posted...ViviffTheMobile posted...As a pro Brawl player and now pro Smash 4 player...Ulti's amount of greater-thans in front of Brawl is probably closer to reality than it should be. Like I said, I don't know smash4 that well so w/e. What tournament was that? Please link me so I can admire the lack of top players at it. Winning doubles with the best smash 4 player in the world is not that hard lol, Zero is a fairly good friend of mine I know how incredibly skilled at smash he is. What are your sponsors? Likely local game stores/companies, there is no reason you should be sponsored by anything real. How much salary do they pay you(oh wait..they don't lol). Your state sucks at smash, and always has sorry :/. Please show me your placings at nationals instead of local tournaments if you want to claim to be "professional". I hardly claim myself to be that(even though others claim me as such), and I have no doubt I've placed better than you at any national we've both attended(if you even go to them.) Here, you can take a look at some of my national results yourself: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Smasher:Hylian --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
ViviffTheMobile posted... Brawl was a side event at our major over last weekend, and it was a bunch of us trying to remember how to play, and more importantly, trying to remember why we played, as every game took 6 minutes and had 0 action. I was way ahead of that train. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
What topic have I wandered into? --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
_SJimW_ posted... Brawl also had more advanced tech. This is factually wrong outside of MAYBE two characters (Meta Knight and ZSS). --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
LOLContests posted... What topic have I wandered into? The topic of SMASH 4 IS AWESOME, BAYBAY --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zPiRbGvmY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl0YdDVfLhQ ADAM COLE, BAYBAY --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
I
apologize for derailing this topic :P. I'll stop replying to smash
stuff though people are free to PM me about it if they want. How much will WW close the gap once the sun rises? --- www.twitch.tv/Hylian88 www.twitter.com/Hylian88 |
It's
tough to say. Normal trends suggest that it will be in a world of pain
for the next ~5 hours. I'd say that a comeback is still possible if it
holds FF's lead to about 1500 and if the Zelda fans are ginned up for
it. I don't expect that to happen, though. Again, the deep night vote is
going to be bad. --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
Wind
Waker has made a few small cuts the part half hour though FFVI takes it
back. It hadn't done that since the first half hour otherwise. How are
trends usually for these two? --- Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone. |
FF6 is winning US/Canada/UK and california... its got this. --- >_______________> |
I mean, if day vote is a thing, WW can turn that around. --- Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone. |
I just checked the results. This is what I have to say 1st match=FF 6 doing worse than I expected. 2nd match=FF 7 doing worse than I expected. Next round I guess FF 6 is the favorite? --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? |
Not
sure how FF6's day vote here, but WW seems like it's still in striking
distance of making a good comeback here. 1100 votes is a lot with these
vote totals, but... --- satoru iwata |
We
haven't really seen much in the way of non-geographical/non-rally
trends, have we? FFVI is winning in America, so I don't see this turning
around. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
this should be over unless FF6 is just miserably bad during the day. it was once upon a time but not in this contest. --- xyzzy |
Next round I guess FF 6 is the favorite? FFVII is doing better, it is getting 55% on the GotD field while it is debatable on whether FFVI is above the GotD field (I say yes). --- BGE3: Today's Matches FFVI>LoZ:WW and FFVII>SMG Points 115/136 |
Hylian88 posted... I apologize for derailing this topic :P. I'll stop replying to smash stuff though people are free to PM me about it if they want. Hey I was the one who started the whole smash thing here this time lol. Anyway since others have done it... 4 > 64 > Brawl > Melee Yeah I hate Melee with a passion, deal with it. --- To play or Not to play, that is the question. |
ugh smash arguments FF6 really recovered nicely. 54/46, if it holds, is a decent percentage to get on a top zelda game. CT just made us go a little crazy I think. if FF6/FF7 is 50/50, WW beats Smash 4 with 62.27%. that'll probably get wider as the day goes on but I have nothing wrong with Wind Waker doing that to Smash 4. --- xyzzy |
Did I just wake up to Wind Waker getting almost 46% on LOL SNES LOL JRPG LOL SQUARE? What a champ. EDIT: And oh yeah, one last one. LOL FFVII KILLER --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses (edited 11/30/2015 5:09:10 AM)report |
Wind
Waker might very well make some cuts soon, but I doubt it's coming back
from this barring an unexpected rally or something. It was a nice upset
shot pre contest, but the it didn't look good throughout the contest. --- Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone. |
Yea all this does is confirm FF7 beats FF6 --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
MechanicalWall posted... Did I just wake up to Wind Waker getting almost 46% on LOL SNES LOL JRPG LOL SQUARE? Back to Nintendo being the plucky underdog Just as Link planned --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Hylian88 posted... UberPyro64 posted...No way. Melee is far superior gameplay wise to Brawl. Brawl's Neutral game was literally nothing being able to get past a Metaknight tornado and making every other character without a solid projectile absolute trash tier because everything is half the speed of Melee. Solid job Nintendo. (edited 11/30/2015 5:26:51 AM)report |
Melee is the best smash --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Play Battlefront II --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
