Your BGE3 champion, Chrono Trigger!



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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest
"F*** Draven." -SBAllen
Far from the worst choice at least.
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"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
Sadly, it won't be winning.
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CT > FFVII
RBY > Undertale
CT > RBY

Commit it to memory.
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September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013
NEVER FORGET.
Okay the problem for CT is even with these great performances FFVII has done better <_<
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FFVII vs. Halo at 15:25 - 29080
SSBM vs. KH2 at 15:25 - 34082

Increase in votals from last Sunday: 17.2%

That number has dropped from 20% last night, but it's still very substantial (and traditionally, FFVII vs. Halo should be a somewhat bigger vote draw). It's probably the most hopeful thing to come out of today's matches actually- it gives SMW something of a chance, and gives RBY a good shot, especially if we get another votals boost next round. If there's another votals boost from switching from 2 simultaneous matches to 1 match at a time, it may give CT and OOT a shot at Undertale (it wouldn't be surprising for them to beat Undertale in a vacuum, but the only way they can face it is if it beats RBY first, and if it can beat RBY, it looks a lot more intimidating).
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September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013
NEVER FORGET.
IF CT winning means Undertale losing then so be it.
I support for BGE these 5 games. Pokemon R/B/Y, FF 7, FF 6, CT and RE 4. If any one of these wins I am okay.
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I'm pulling for Sonic 2. You can do it, Sonic!
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If Allen let Sonic 3 & Knuckles into the bracket, it would quadruple Pokemon, kill Undertale, then go on to triple Ocarina of Time.

Alas, Allen knew better than to unleash S3&K onto these mere mortals.
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S3&K would then detach and we'd have a bonus match of Sonic 3 v Sonic & Knuckles because it is its own only worthy opponent.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
xp1337 posted...
S3&K would then detach and we'd have a bonus match of Sonic 3 v Sonic & Knuckles because it is its own only worthy opponent.


S&K wins 70-30
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eaglesarebeasts posted...
xp1337 posted...
S3&K would then detach and we'd have a bonus match of Sonic 3 v Sonic & Knuckles because it is its own only worthy opponent.


S&K wins 70-30


dat Sky Sanctuary advantage
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Communists
so what's stronger, Wind Waker or FFX
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iphonesience
What's the consensus over/under on FFVI versus Wind Waker now? 60/40?
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probably 56/44 or 57/43? I'm on the high side but I always have been
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iphonesience
They weren't really that far apart in the GotD stats, and WW was actually higher in 2004...wouldn't be too surprising if they were fairly equal.
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If nothing else, Wind Waker got an awesome Wii U upgrade that fixed the game's biggest faults, so I don't think it's much of a stretch to assume the game has gotten a slight boost since GotD.
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you guys and your modern day boosts
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iphonesience
Not to take away from CT's amazing performance here, but FFX really has dropped the ball this contest (retrospectively, neither of its wins look good after we saw HL2 get its butt kicked). Wouldn't it be hilarious if it turns out that the loss to Majora's Mask was an overperformance...
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I was looking back at GOTD pre-contest and trying to figure out where the overperformances were by Majora and I just can't tell. the only possible overperformance that I saw was Fallout 3/Brawl.
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iphonesience
Alternatively FFX can be used to show how weak the top games of the 2000-2009 era compared to top games pre-2000
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FFX overperforming in a big way on MM means that RE4 is, like, beyond screwed. Against everything.
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Regardless of the FFX/Majora match and its implications, I think we need to concede real upset potential to Mario RPG. SNES games have commanded that much respect and then some.
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Eh, Mario RPG doesn't really look that strong. 54% on Oblivion and 56% on GTAV don't suggest there's a lot of room for RE4 to fit in there.
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logically, Mario RPG > Paper Mario seems obvious outside of the Europe thing. that puts Mario RPG in at least the 50s and I sure wouldn't want to bet against SNES right now. I think I said this the other day, but Mario RPG > EB seems similarly clear and MGS barely got 60%. put those two things together and it's hard to see RE4 going that high on it.. but maybe. div 7 seems weirdly clear in terms of winners but not at all in terms of percentages.
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iphonesience
transcience posted...
you guys and your modern day boosts


For real. The percent of people playing Wind Waker for the first time on Wii U and voting it iss way too small to make a difference in these things.
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LongLiveraytan
the same goes for the TP announcement, FFX HD (I actually think that may have hurt - a lot of people mentioned that a replay hurt their feelings on FF10), FF7 PC.. unless there's something really explosive, these things are nothing. there are a handful of games the majority of the site has played and that isn't changing with some wii u port.
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pjbasis posted...
For real. The percent of people playing Wind Waker for the first time on Wii U and voting it iss way too small to make a difference in these things.


I don't think it's the people who are playing it for the first time that would make any difference, it's the people who were down on the game because of the Triforce quest and the slow sailing suddenly become more favorable to the game that might give WW a boost. A small one, like I said before, but it still might be there.
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I'm pretty sure the only people that played Wind Waker HD were already fans of the original. that's part of being on the Wii U - only Nintendo fans own that thing and they all play Zelda.
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xyzzy
Not to mention playing a game for the first time in 2013 or something seems to result in a very poor amount of votes.

People vote with nostalgia. You don't have nostalgia for the HD port.
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LongLiveraytan
I'm just trying to think of something that would make the WW vs. FFVI at least kind of interesting, or for a reason for WW to do better than it did in GotD. What do you want from me?
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So was there no Melee rally today? If anything I'd expect a match against KH to draw more rally attention than a Nintendo-fest with Pokemon... At least Undertale is consistent in drawing rallies from round to round!
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Someone posted one that died at like 6 upvotes I believe
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Karma Hunter posted...
FFX overperforming in a big way on MM means that RE4 is, like, beyond screwed. Against everything.


Eh, I dunno. It still beat MGS3 pretty soundly in 2009. Assuming constant RE4 and possible drop of MGS series and it's still debatable.
So, looking ahead, what is the concensus on Skyrim vs MP? Is Skyrim still the favorite?
MP looked darn good against HL2, but between 63% on Morrowind and Skyrim 60/40ing Goldeneye, I gotta give it the edge
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Would take Goldeneye over HL2, so I don't think this is really in question. Before the contest, I would've taken Goldeneye over Metroid Prime...wouldn't be too surprising if that ended up being the case.
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ROUND 3 – DAY 2 – ALL OF DIVISION 2

Match XCIX: (1) Final Fantasy VI vs. (4) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Previous Rounds

Final Fantasy VI
77.03% against Assassin’s Creed II
66.94% against Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
72.60% against Pokemon XY
63.25% against Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Analysis

This match had some debate pre-contest, but now it is very doubtful that Wind Waker could win this match. Final Fantasy VI has had the opportunity to go up against games that were in Wind Waker’s eight-pack during the 2010 contest and in both times the game was able to out-perform Wind Waker. While Assassin’s Creed II is likely weaker relative to 2010 it is doubtful that Paper Mario TTYD is significantly weaker, especially after Paper Mario’s performance against Resident Evil 4.

It might be interesting to see where Wind Waker ends up in the x-stats based on its performance against KotOR. While it is very possible that KotOR is weaker the match could have signal some mild SFF between Majora’s Mask and Wind Waker. Throw in some SFF between FFX/FFIX in 2010 and you could make an argument that Wind Waker is almost equal to Majora’s Mask.

Of course this means nothing in this match because if Wind Waker was underrated so was Paper Mario: TTYD and Assassin’s Creed II. While I don’t see a beat down like Chrono Trigger is giving today I feel Final Fantasy VI should have an easy time winning this match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VI > LoZ: Wind Waker

charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VI wins, 57.06% - 42.94%



Match C: (3) Super Smash Bros. for Wii U vs. (2) Final Fantasy VII

Previous Rounds

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
79.05% against Planescape: Torment
54.89% against Mass Effect

Final Fantasy VII
84.07% against Journey
78.21% against Halo: Combat Evolved

Analysis

I’m not sure what people were expecting out of Super Smash Bros. Wii U. Just because it has the Smash Bros. name doesn’t mean it is as strong as Melee or even Brawl. For the entire contest we’ve seen Wii U titles crash and burn. The fact that it won over Mass Effect would be impressive in hindsight.

With that said Final Fantasy VII has looked very good so far, but it has had weak opponents so far. I don’t expect much out of Smash Bros., but this match should give us a better idea on how strong Final Fantasy VII is and whether if it truly is safe against Final Fantasy VI now that we’ve seen what SNES games have done so far.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VII > Super Mario Galaxy

charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VII wins, 73.29% - 26.71%
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BGE3: Today's Matches Final Fantasy X > Chrono Trigger, Super Smash Bros. Melee > Kingdom Hearts II
Points 111/120
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Not to take away from CT's amazing performance here, but FFX really has dropped the ball this contest (retrospectively, neither of its wins look good after we saw HL2 get its butt kicked). Wouldn't it be hilarious if it turns out that the loss to Majora's Mask was an overperformance...


When CT hits mid-60s on Melee next round, we can put this talk to bed!

I still haven't seen anyone willing to take KH2 > FFX yet...!
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VeryInsane posted...
Eh, I dunno. It still beat MGS3 pretty soundly in 2009. Assuming constant RE4 and possible drop of MGS series and it's still debatable.


It did not beat MGS3 soundly.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3500-division-7-final-mgs3-oblivion-zelda-tp-re4
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Metroid Prime's match against Half-Life 2 had massive tumblr spillover involved. That result is really inflated.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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Prime had a ridiculous early vote in both of its matches. If it's struggling to beat Skyrim in the first five minutes, it's got no chance.
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With Crono doing so poorly on the last Character Battle I thought CT would be equally weakened this contest but instead it went super saiyan all of a sudden. I'm going with the insane theory that Dragon Ball Super is lending its energy to Chrono.
Lynx_7 posted...
With Crono doing so poorly on the last Character Battle I thought CT would be equally weakened this contest but instead it went super saiyan all of a sudden. I'm going with the insane theory that Dragon Ball Super is lending its energy to Chrono.


This is weird, and it's hard to say why the characters have been looking so weak for the past few character contests, yet the game is killing its competition.
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Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses
Characters =/= Games and all that jazz

It's like how FFVII has been killing it so far and its characters have been dropping off, too.
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transience posted...
the same goes for the TP announcement, FFX HD (I actually think that may have hurt - a lot of people mentioned that a replay hurt their feelings on FF10), FF7 PC.. unless there's something really explosive, these things are nothing. there are a handful of games the majority of the site has played and that isn't changing with some wii u port.


I agree with this. I immediately bought the remaster and the game just wasn't as good as I remembered.

Bizarrely my opinion of X-2 improved and I probably had the most fun playing Last Mission of all things.
Last Mission is pretty good stuff, yeah.
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I never thought Crono and co. looked that bad in the last few character battles. I thought they all got really bad draws in matches.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Characters =/= Games and all that jazz

It's like how FFVII has been killing it so far and its characters have been dropping off, too.


remember "of course Awakening is stronger than Xenoblade, look at how the characters did"?

oops

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