FF10 went toe to toe with Melee in the year most advantageous to Square, before the Nintendo boost even happened. Melee was probably the single biggest beneficiary of that boost. I wouldn't touch that FFX/Melee match with a ten foot stick.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
Undyne posted...
Yuri_LowelI posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
CT needs to win this contest.

Or Undertale. Or FF7. Just anything but Ocarina and I'm happy.


Dont be stupid. Undertale should win this at all.


Oh, well, thanks for the support I guess.


Shouldnt i mean.

If you think undertale is the best game ever you need to seek some help from the gaming clinic. I work in one and im use to seeing sonic fanboys in here all the time so i can help you too.


It's like it's 2008 all over again.
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KamikazePotato posted...
tennisboy213 posted...
It's not too late Allen! Make it one match per day from divisional finals onward. If rallies are going to ruin another contest, let's at least not have any more matches decided by rallies in the OTHER match.


If you're actually concerned about that, then it wouldn't be a bad idea to send him a feedback ticket

He won't do it though, contest would end too close to Christmas


I really want this to happen but knowing Allen he won't
FFX looked equal to Melee in 2010.

This just isn't the same FF10. No way the previous FF10 fails to double Half-Life 1.
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transience posted...
FF10 went toe to toe with Melee in the year most advantageous to Square, before the Nintendo boost even happened. Melee was probably the single biggest beneficiary of that boost. I wouldn't touch that FFX/Melee match with a ten foot stick.


Then how do you explain FFX scoring better on Majora's Mask than Brawl(who beat melee)?
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Regardless of what I hope people jokingly say, if FFX had beaten out Majora's Mask it would have gone on to go 50/50 with and possibly win against Brawl.

...that doesn't mean it was stronger than Melee in GOTD, but it's done too much in previous contests to write it off as some overrated fraud.
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oh, through Majora and Brawl? I don't trust that number either. I really don't think this is FFX falling so much as getting exposed. it's never had great contest results.
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11/28/2015 9:30:49 PM#108
transience posted...
Leon, out of curiosity, what stats do we get if FFX = KH2


As of the 12:25 update:

Chrono Trigger – 50.00%
Super Smash Bros. Melee – 41.21%
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal – 32.94%
Final Fantasy X – 32.26%
Kingdom Hearts – 32.26%
Mega Man X – 28.72%
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots – 26.64%
Portal – 26.61%
The Last of Us – 25.79%
Half-Life – 22.96%
Batman: Arkham City – 22.59%
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King – 18.07%
Halo 3 – 16.76%
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 – 16.36%
The World Ends With You – 15.40%
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal – 14.15%
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I hate you Melee

so freaking much

I'd throw away my disc right now but I just checked and SSBM is selling for like $60-$100 online with regularity wtf
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Ffx got weaker when people played the remaster and realised what a piece of crap it is.
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I mean...it has. Just because it never managed to win eke out that win against a strong Nintendo game like Melee or MM doesn't make it weak. It's been consistently very strong in every contest.
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those numbers are going to get so much worse too. KH2 just waiting to get this down to like 55-56%
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lol FFX exposed more like Melee exposed

by the time this contest is over we're going to have FFX = Melee in the stats just like we do in every other damn contest
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KamikazePotato posted...
I mean...it has. Just because it never managed to win eke out that win against a strong Nintendo game like Melee or MM doesn't make it weak. It's been consistently very strong in every contest.


Name one game that is from before 2000 FFX has ever looked good against.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
SlugSh0t posted...
Seriously though, what's up with the SNES boost?? Are only the older users left alive?


It's not a SNES boost. New games were just horribly overrated because of the generation split.


It makes witcher 3's % on mgs quite impressive actually.

I think we can say it will win goty on this site.


It's getting third at best, and that's assuming Fallout 4 doesn't SFF it hard.
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11/28/2015 9:33:47 PM#117
Let's wait until CT/Melee before we make any definitive conclusions about FFX. Not to mention FFX should make some decent gains overnight.

either this is some sort of weird SFF between CT and FFX or KH2 wallops FFX at this point for Melee to win next round
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transience posted...
those numbers are going to get so much worse too. KH2 just waiting to get this down to like 55-56%


Yeah because europe doesnt care about melee. But they dint care about kh either
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
Ffx got weaker when people played the remaster and realised what a piece of crap it is.


this is good logic and I'm sticking by it.

(Even so, my hatred for FFX is not a huge reason why I thought it being the guru favorite here was absolutely insane)
LeonhartFour posted...
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King – 18.07%
Halo 3 – 16.76%


Lol

Halo 3 is one of my personal favorite games but damn does it suck here.
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11/28/2015 9:34:24 PM#121
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Name one game that is from before 2000 FFX has ever looked good against.


It hasn't faced a lot of them!

but LttP

*runs*
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WarThaNemesis2 posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
I mean...it has. Just because it never managed to win eke out that win against a strong Nintendo game like Melee or MM doesn't make it weak. It's been consistently very strong in every contest.


Name one game that is from before 2000 FFX has ever looked good against.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3508-contest-final-ffvii-zelda-lttp-zelda-oot-ffx

That's literally the only result that exists

Regardless, you can't call FFX a fraud without calling everything after the SNES a fraud, which means Melee gets destroyed next round regardless
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The most surprising part of the day for me was checking yesterday's match and seeing Bioshock Vs. MGS3 almost as close as Mass Effect Vs. Starcraft

wtf happened there. MGS3 isn't the kind of game I'd expect to see that kind of epic collapse from
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Karma Hunter posted...
lol FFX exposed more like Melee exposed

by the time this contest is over we're going to have FFX = Melee in the stats just like we do in every other damn contest


Except this one. Sorry dude. Ffx will never beat melee and it was never going to.
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CT/FFX probably ends at around 65%. Europe's gonna make this look a little better.

Melee's already pulling 57% updates (though that one was better) and should fall off pretty good soon, so I'm expecting some trends very similar to GSC.
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KamikazePotato posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
I mean...it has. Just because it never managed to win eke out that win against a strong Nintendo game like Melee or MM doesn't make it weak. It's been consistently very strong in every contest.


Name one game that is from before 2000 FFX has ever looked good against.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3508-contest-final-ffvii-zelda-lttp-zelda-oot-ffx

That's literally the only result that exists

Regardless, you can't call FFX a fraud without calling everything after the SNES a fraud, which means Melee gets destroyed next round regardless


Well I mean, that is literally what I'm saying. We, myself included, overrated everything from an entire era because they were all close to each other.
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But Melee beat GSC-

*checks*

came out in America in 2000 DAMMIT 90SFAQS
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11/28/2015 9:36:12 PM#128
If there's no SFF here, KH2 has to beat FFX with 58.81% for Melee = CT.
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oh actually the remake thing is a good point

nostalgia is huge here

playing a game again in many cases would hurt it, as the fond memories would be mixed in with new ones that may not be as rose tinted
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Can we predict what CT vs FF7 would be, assuming CT ends at around 65%?
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KamikazePotato posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
I mean...it has. Just because it never managed to win eke out that win against a strong Nintendo game like Melee or MM doesn't make it weak. It's been consistently very strong in every contest.


Name one game that is from before 2000 FFX has ever looked good against.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3508-contest-final-ffvii-zelda-lttp-zelda-oot-ffx

That's literally the only result that exists

Regardless, you can't call FFX a fraud without calling everything after the SNES a fraud, which means Melee gets destroyed next round regardless


Everything after the SNES is a fraud. We'll learn that once FF6 scores 55% on FF7 and LttP doubles MM.
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it's too bad that we already saw FF6's 66% against TTYD. this result could cause a lot of people to go really high on FF6.

..I might anyway for fun
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I don't want to live in a world where KHII beats KHI so much that FFX can lose to it.

Unless it's all FFX being terribad
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I'm suddenly very relieved that MGS1 only let Earthbound get 40% on it
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I wouldn't be surprised if KHII could kick FFX's ass at this point. The Final Mix version finally got released in North America, and people are realizing how amazing the game really is when you crank up the difficulty and actually find a reason to use all of your battle options. And that post-game...

Meanwhile, FFX got two rereleases in the span of two years, but I don't hear any extra buzz for the game at all.
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11/28/2015 9:38:46 PM#137
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3504-contest-quarterfinal-zelda-oot-pokemon-ssbm-ffx
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3507-contest-semifinal-zelda-oot-ffx-mgs4-ssbb
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3508-contest-final-ffvii-zelda-lttp-zelda-oot-ffx

Those matches are the only ones before this contest where FF10 faced a game made before 2000.
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KamikazePotato posted...
I'm suddenly very relieved that MGS1 only let Earthbound get 40% on it


yeah, no kidding...MGS1 might be a greater monster than we thoughtt..
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Whiskey_Nick posted...
oh actually the remake thing is a good point

nostalgia is huge here

playing a game again in many cases would hurt it, as the fond memories would be mixed in with new ones that may not be as rose tinted


Actually this might be a legitimate reason. I saw this reaction among a lot among people.

I considered it pre-contest but discarded it as a really dumb theory, but, well
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11/28/2015 9:39:09 PM#140
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Well I mean, that is literally what I'm saying. We, myself included, overrated everything from an entire era because they were all close to each other.


Well, the same sort of thing happened in 2004. Look at several of the games from the last division. There are a lot of games from Division 128 that ranked really high.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/15

11 of the top 20 games are from Division 128.

Maybe Melee overperformed on FFVII? It's possible after all the tough matches it had, especially against FFX and Starcraft. These things happen.
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SlugSh0t posted...
Can we predict what CT vs FF7 would be, assuming CT ends at around 65%?


Based on beautiful 2004 stats 65% on FFX would put CT slightly above FFVII.

Aww yeah 2004 was rSFF the whole time.
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11/28/2015 9:40:41 PM#143
whoo 40% update for FFX

more of those please
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LeonhartFour posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Well I mean, that is literally what I'm saying. We, myself included, overrated everything from an entire era because they were all close to each other.


Well, the same sort of thing happened in 2004. Look at several of the games from the last division. There are a lot of games from Division 128 that ranked really high.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/15

11 of the top 20 games are from Division 128.

Maybe Melee overperformed on FFVII? It's possible after all the tough matches it had, especially against FFX and Starcraft. These things happen.


And, since you're talking SFF in Trigger/FFX, maybe Chrono Trigger was SFFed by FFVII...!
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11/28/2015 9:41:03 PM#145
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Based on beautiful 2004 stats 65% on FFX would put CT slightly above FFVII.

Aww yeah 2004 was rSFF the whole time.


which means CT is still boned
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Keep in mind that Chrono Trigger is the same game that easily lost to SM64 with another Mario game in the poll
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LeonhartFour posted...
whoo 40% update for FFX

more of those please


quoting this because it's fun to see you say
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11/28/2015 9:42:17 PM#148
IT'S ALL I HAVE MAN

I probably can't even bank on a Euro vote cut at this rate

KamikazePotato posted...
Keep in mind that Chrono Trigger is the same game that easily lost to SM64 with another Mario game in the poll


and lost to Mario 64 by about the same margin when you swapped Yoshi's Island out for FFVII
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Chrono Trigger! People thought I was crazy for picking it over FF7 before this contest started what now huh
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KamikazePotato posted...
Keep in mind that Chrono Trigger is the same game that easily lost to SM64 with another Mario game in the poll


was the fourth game ff7 though? I don't remember that polll.
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