11/26/2015 12:16:31 AM#251
UltimaterializerX posted...
I'm a Square guy, with Nintendo 1a. Seeing the rivalry be so one-sided on this site for so long was so hard to watch. I want it to be debatable again.

Like I picked WW > FF6 because of past history. If Square just randomly goes berserk I will not complain.


It's still been ridiculously one-sided thus far! No Square game has done better than what FFIV is doing right now against Nintendo!

The Real Truth posted...
Wait, do people think Super Metroid is beating MM based on these results? This is a great showing for MM.


This is literally almost exactly what MM is projected to get based on GOTD, so it's a fine result. Super Metroid's might be better though. Not outdoing TP's percentage is whatever. More reason for TP to lay SFF harder there.
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11/26/2015 12:40:07 AM#252
Anyway, yesterday's charts:

Time | Zelda OOT | Suikoden | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 73.78% | 26.22% | 717 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 75.06% | 24.94% | 4764 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 74.13% | 25.87% | 9724 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 74.51% | 25.49% | 5673 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 78.33% | 21.67% | 11642 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 79.27% | 20.73% | 11022 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 79.79% | 20.21% | 2143 | (22:00-24:00)

A 5% leap for OoT from night to day. That's a pretty big shift.

Time | Okami | FFIX | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 42.59% | 57.41% | 702 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 41.05% | 58.95% | 4680 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 42.36% | 57.64% | 9567 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 39.57% | 60.43% | 5555 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 42.91% | 57.09% | 11396 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 42.76% | 57.24% | 10739 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 43.27% | 56.73% | 2110 | (22:00-24:00)

FFIX breaks 60% with the morning vote but doesn't fluctuate too much outside of that.

Time | DKC2 | FE:A | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 52.47% | 47.53% | 709 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 53.15% | 46.85% | 4647 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 51.41% | 48.59% | 9455 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 53.56% | 46.44% | 5512 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 51.93% | 48.07% | 11349 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 51.66% | 48.34% | 10691 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 52.53% | 47.47% | 2096 | (22:00-24:00)

Despite the closeness of the match, DKC2 never lost a timeframe. Good work, Diddy!

Time | B-K | SOTN | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 43.64% | 56.36% | 708 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 40.31% | 59.69% | 4614 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 38.00% | 62.00% | 9463 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 36.38% | 63.62% | 5509 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 39.51% | 60.49% | 11302 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 41.38% | 58.62% | 10637 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 40.82% | 59.18% | 2070 | (22:00-24:00)

Common theme today seems to be winning games having good night votes and bad day votes, but hey, at least it looks like we have trends back or something!
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11/26/2015 12:42:47 AM#253
Yesterday's X-Stats:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time – 50.00%
Suikoden II – 23.11%
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate – 19.90%
Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft – 8.97%

Hearthstone gets 22.54% on Monster Hunter and 19.41% on Suikoden II.

Final Fantasy IX – 50.00%
Kingdom Hearts – 48.91%
Okami – 42.15%
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos – 33.22%

Kingdom Hearts gets 56.91% on Okami and 66.04% on Warcraft.

Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest – 50.00%
Xenoblade Chronicles – 49.64%
Fire Emblem: Awakening – 47.89%
Super Mario Maker – 34.11%

Xenoblade gets 51.76% on Fire Emblem and 65.64% on Mario Maker.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night – 50.00%
Banjo-Kazooie – 39.39%
Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn – 29.68%
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations – 25.01%

T&T gets 42.13% on Baldur's Gate and 31.75% on Banjo.
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11/26/2015 12:45:00 AM#254
Current X-Stats:

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past – 50.00%
Final Fantasy IV – 34.78%
Deus Ex – 21.03%
Cave Story – 11.98%

Dark Souls – 50.00%
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain – 45.00%
Perfect Dark – 40.80%
Sid Meier’s Civilization V – 33.33%

Super Metroid – 50.00%
Super Mario Galaxy – 40.43%
Dragon Age: Origins – 29.08%
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare – 20.54%

The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask – 50.00%
Final Fantasy XII – 30.41%
Bloodborne – 27.01%
Valkyria Chronicles – 24.11%
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Hey there, just reproduced a bracket that actually shows numbers because it was annoying to go from page to page for results. Hopefully it is of some use to others as well.

http://challonge.com/vw1wtko0

The order is a bit off but ultimately the matchups are the same.
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Achromatic posted...
To be fair older games have been impressing, maybe Tetris got stronger? I guess we'll see.


I don't know if it got much stronger in particular, but people have absolutely been underestimating it, likely mostly because of the Zelda 1 match, which probably had some old game SFF or whatever. I've been arguing for this before and especially after the RBY/Tetris match and everything seems to point in that direction. In any case, Tetris is somewhat legit, there's no way RBY underperformed in round 1, then SMB3 did in round 2 (pre-rally). Unfortunately, the Undertale rally has likely prevented me from completely resting my case, because RBY's showings from here on out can all be excused by rally, rally backfire and in the case it gets out of the division, a bandwagon and/or boost from having gotten past such a crazy division.
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11/26/2015 12:59:09 AM#257
Well, Tetris didn't look that good in 2009 either, even before Mario 1 and Zelda 1 ground it into a fine powder. I wasn't too impressed with the number it put up on Mega Man 2.

Tetris is a fine mid-tier game. It'd beat a lot of things. I don't know if I'd take it to beat FFIV, FFVIII, or FFT though. It'd probably be close if it doesn't win, but that doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room for R/B/Y to be stronger than World, 64, or LttP.
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Pre-rally, Red/Blue vs SMB 3 was stabilized around 55-45.
11/26/2015 1:05:21 AM#259
Behemoth_Knight posted...
Pre-rally, Red/Blue vs SMB 3 was stabilized around 55-45.


No, it wasn't.

It took 4 hours before the match hit 55/45 and Undertale was already majorly cutting percentage long before that.
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I'd expect Tetris to always look better against games not from its own generation. I wouldn't pick it against those games either, although it would be a 55-45 kind of match I think. It still gives Tetris room to exceed the general idea of its strength that people here had. I also do expect RBY to be very close to World, 64 and LttP. Picking it to the finale was considering a bandwagon effect that gave it the edge in the latter round matches.
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Behemoth_Knight posted...
Hey there, just reproduced a bracket that actually shows numbers because it was annoying to go from page to page for results. Hopefully it is of some use to others as well.

http://challonge.com/vw1wtko0

The order is a bit off but ultimately the matchups are the same.


this is really cool. great effort. i shall bookmark this page
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I just checked the results. This is what I have to say.
1st match=Hope FF 4 can evade a doubling!
2nd match=Didn't expected that to tell the truth.
3rd match=Samus>Mario? What is going on?
4th match=Seems FF 12 will not evade a doubling.

Old>new. Who could have expected that?
2 matches wrong for me today. Contest over.
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I expected old>new in general, but not as extreme as we've seen. I still expected DKC2 to lose, and thought Galaxy wouldn't be that much of a victim as well as thought Super Metroid wasn't as strong as it's shown.

Still picked Mega Man X, Sonic 2 and Suikoden based off of old>new.
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I think most people are getting -4 today
Probably won't save me from dropping back off the leaderboard though!
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Vote totals seem to have stabled above 40k, though it's hard to tell where they really are since today is a holiday in the US
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ:LttP>FFIV, MGSV>Dark Souls, SMG>SM, LoZ:MM>FFXII
Points 91/104
What kind of holiday?
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Thanksgiving. It's probably the 2nd biggest holiday of the year in the US.
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Do you pick Super Mario Galaxy to beat Half-Life 2, MGS4, or Diablo II?
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This Super Metroid result makes me feel even better about CT > FFX. Series name value isn't everything. Oh yeah, and SNES. Plus throw in the actual performances so far, and I'm feeling pretty confident about CT now.

I was feeling the pressure to make a change at the deadline, but I'm glad I held firm.
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I saw Dark Souls > MGS5 coming. I think I even had Super Metroid at some point too, but then thought it was silly. Oh how little I knew.
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My bracket's pretty terrible this year (I have Skyrim in the finals, I'm pretty much dead in the water) but I'm actually going to get 8 points today so I'm happy for the small things like calling two minor upsets correctly (while the rest of my upsets crash and burn).
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Thanksgiving? The one where you eat a big bird? Okay I see.
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Thanksgiving is a holiday where we give thanks for all the natives we genocided by engaging in gluttony and capitalism.

It's the most American holiday and it's pretty sweet.
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I saw Dark Souls coming, but Metroid > Mario wasn't an upset I wanted to take.

New games are doomed indeed.
That sounds like an American thing to do Not Wylvane! Nice too see these holidays!
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What was Allen's revised schedule for the contest in regards to matches per day?
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I believe it was:

4-4-2-2-2-1-1
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Wow, 2 things surprise me about todays matches.

- How the hell was Super Metroid winning here a 23% Guru upset? This seemed like one of the most obvious Round 2 matches.
- How the hell is MGSV so weak? The game is goddamn amazing, and easily my favourite game of the current generation (as shallow as that pool might be).
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lol xstats
I saw Super Metroid > SMG coming ever since Sonic 2 > Portal 2, DKC2 > Xenoblade, and (specially) Earthbound > Borderlands 2 happened.

This shouldn't have been a debated match since we knew old > new. Heck, even Chrono Trigger > FFX shouldn't be debated anymore.
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Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective?
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Wow, 2 things surprise me about todays matches.

- How the hell was Super Metroid winning here a 23% Guru upset? This seemed like one of the most obvious Round 2 matches.
- How the hell is MGSV so weak? The game is goddamn amazing, and easily my favourite game of the current generation (as shallow as that pool might be).


maybe because it's not a MGS game? I don't care what the title says, the game plays like a generic open world game with extremely repetitive missions and environments and it's not even a finished product.. In fact take the "MGS" skin and critics would give it mediocre scores just like they did with similarly repetitive open world game Mad Max

Konami and Kojima should both apologize for that piece of s***.
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You're insane. The 'open world' elements didn't feel like other open world games at all. I can't stand playing games like GTA or Farcry, but MGS5 just plays so well.
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lol xstats
I wonder how Undertale will do in the GotY polls
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Calintares posted...
I wonder how Undertale will do in the GotY polls


Tumblr idiots that have only watched PewDiePie play it on youtube will probably spam that poll and ruin GotY as well.
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Calintares posted...
I wonder how Undertale will do in the GotY polls


This is actually a really awesome thing to wonder about.
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Undertale is going to get buried under MGSV and Witcher 3 at best, and probably also under Splatoon and Xenoblade. Can't imagine anyzone's gonna bother rallying for a poll like that.
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Without any rallying, Undertale gets crushed by a bunch of games in the GotY polls. It all comes down to if Undertale gets rallied in any of the GotY polls it appears in. Given how crazy the fanbase is, it wouldn't surprise me. Even without a Tumblr rally, it could still get rallied on 4chan or Reddit.
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abdou posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Wow, 2 things surprise me about todays matches.

- How the hell was Super Metroid winning here a 23% Guru upset? This seemed like one of the most obvious Round 2 matches.
- How the hell is MGSV so weak? The game is goddamn amazing, and easily my favourite game of the current generation (as shallow as that pool might be).


maybe because it's not a MGS game? I don't care what the title says, the game plays like a generic open world game with extremely repetitive missions and environments and it's not even a finished product.. In fact take the "MGS" skin and critics would give it mediocre scores just like they did with similarly repetitive open world game Mad Max

Konami and Kojima should both apologize for that piece of s***.


Yep. MGS 1 and 3 are in my top 10 games of all time. MGSV made a great early impression. Incredible gameplay, awesome mechanics. After that it all falls apart. The 2nd half of the game is extremely unsatisfying and I cant remember a game ever disappointing me as much as that. It had everything in place to be one of the best games of all time and instead it screwed everything up.

Really it should have been simple. Show the fall of Big Boss(this was completely falsely advertised in trailers), complete the time line and wrap up the series. Additionally, instead of previous MGS games being 50/50 in terms of gameplay/story, MGSV should have been 65/35. Instead it ended up almost 95/5 of favor of gameplay and the story ended up being an afterthought in a series renowned for its storytelling. Its also about expectations. I wanted and expected to play as Big Boss, a character I know and like and a character that needed another game to fill in the gaps. Instead I ended up playing as a strange shell of a character. Venom Snake ended being distant and just downright weird in most of his cut-scenes. Miller is also basically irrelevant and Ocelot does nothing at all during the entire game.

Yes Kojima had his own little story and message to parade but like MGS 2 I feel it comes at the expense of the game he's making. I think it says it all when I have finished MGS, MGS 3 multiple times in the last few years and I probably wont ever play MGSV again.
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BT always equates his own opinion with the opinion of the site until proven wrong (and sometimes far beyond that). of course MGS5 would be the best MGS game when it's his favourite MGS game.
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We took Galaxy because Mario>Samus always in this site. Plus at least me I though that Galaxy was well beloved.
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Metroid Prime vs Mario Galaxy would be a much less debatable match, I think. But Super Metroid? Mario never had a chance.
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Super Metroid also haven't had a chance to look this great before. Galaxy doesn't even look like it has fallen based on their round 1 matches.
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MGSV is the best in the series. I can see why people would be butthurt about it though.
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Woah, Dark Souls is beating The Phantom Pain.
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I put MGSV in my bracket, and I'm actually happy Dark Souls is winning, YES!
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Safer_777 posted...
We took Galaxy because Mario>Samus always in this site. Plus at least me I though that Galaxy was well beloved.


Same here. I didn't think Galaxy 1 would lose to Samus like this.
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More like The Snake Pain, am I right?
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Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective?
Dang, the day/night vote disparity between Link to the Past and Final Fantasy IV is huge.

Link to the Past only got 60.88% between hour 4 and hour 7. Over the past three hours, Link to the Past got 67.59% of the vote.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
You're insane. The 'open world' elements didn't feel like other open world games at all. I can't stand playing games like GTA or Farcry, but MGS5 just plays so well.


please elaborate

the open world elements were as generic and as boring as Far Cry and GTA. Too much open barren spaces with nothing , same outpost with same soldiers patrolling etc. Even the side ops were the same over and over. Extract prisoner, destroy Tanks unit...repeat.

The gameplay mechanics are solid, but the missions and setting were a huge letdown. I beat the game a month ago and I barely remember any of the story missions. On the other hand MGS1, MGS2 and MGS3 all have some of the best and most memorable settings and missions.

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MGSV is the best in the series. I can see why people would be butthurt about it though.

so it's not possible that people who dislike the game have some valid criticisms and are just "butthurt" fanboys? how old are you? 11?

MGSV disappointed many long time fans of the series . get over it.
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