I mean do you guys think Samus is strong because of like..

...

What, exactly? SSB?
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Dark Souls was an easy pick for me too

take that know-it-all super metroid people
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I'd love to hear people's opinions on Majora/Super Metroid. SNES, man
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Still don't know why Dark Souls and Super Metroid winning were considered upsets. It seemed fairly obvious to me. Not trying to be smug, but MGSV literally came two months ago. It hasn't had time to really sit with people yet. And even then, that ending really, really burned people. Meanwhile, Dark Souls has become synonmous with 'hardcore' gaming in the modern era. It's become almost iconic, in a way.
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Super Metroid is probably on Majora's level indirectly!

but lol have fun with Zelda, Samus
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I'd love to hear people's opinions on Majora/Super Metroid. SNES, man


YEAR OF SNES.

Super Metroid > Majora's Mask
Super Mario RPG > Resident Evil 4 and Metal Gear Solid
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I picked Dark Souls in my bracket

unfortunately I also took Galaxy
Karma Hunter posted...
Super Metroid is probably on Majora's level indirectly!

but lol have fun with Zelda, Samus


Last time Samus faced Zelda it went pretty well for her!
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MechanicalWall posted...
Not trying to be smug, but MGSV literally came two months ago.


do you know what else came out two months ago
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MechanicalWall posted...
Still don't know why Dark Souls and Super Metroid winning were considered upsets. It seemed fairly obvious to me. Not trying to be smug, but MGSV literally came two months ago. It hasn't had time to really sit with people yet. And even then, that ending really, really burned people. Meanwhile, Dark Souls has become synonmous with 'hardcore' gaming in the modern era. It's become almost iconic, in a way.


Not everyone has played Dark Souls. And MGS was massively hyped and had a good playrate with fans.

I knew it'd be weaker than people thought but I thought the MGS name would still carry it until PD did so strongly against it. Oh well. Kinda makes me happy tbh, people see through the good gameplay to the awful story and voted against this s***.
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Also Samus is strong because of Metroid, character design, and SSB, not necessarily in that order. Super Metroid and Metroid Prime are the only games that she has with any strength, but they're not pushovers.

Certainly not to the level to struggle with Super Mario Galaxy I'm sorry that game is weak that's why Mass Effect beat its sequel
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Majora is beating Super Metroid and its not even debatable in my mind.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Also Samus is strong because of Metroid, character design, and SSB, not necessarily in that order. Super Metroid and Metroid Prime are the only games that she has with any strength, but they're not pushovers.

Certainly not to the level to struggle with Super Mario Galaxy I'm sorry that game is weak that's why Mass Effect beat its sequel


Mass Effect vs. Mario Kart 8, who ya got?
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11/25/2015 9:21:37 PM#117
KamikazePotato posted...
So...next contest let's get in Super Mario Kart.


This should happen.
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Eh, Majora's Mask is a way different animal than SMG. If Super Metroid can beat it, it'll obviously finally have proven itself to be legit in a big way, but... I wouldn't wanna have Super Metroid there. Even after this.
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Janus5k posted...
do you know what else came out two months ago


Super Mario Maker?
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Karma Hunter posted...
Also Samus is strong because of Metroid, character design, and SSB, not necessarily in that order. Super Metroid and Metroid Prime are the only games that she has with any strength, but they're not pushovers.

Certainly not to the level to struggle with Super Mario Galaxy I'm sorry that game is weak that's why Mass Effect beat its sequel


Yeah I'm saying Super Metroid is where she got the biggest exposure and it is massively praised and respected on one of the most respected consoles ever.

SMG was respected on the Wii which has received backlash. And was a very casual friendly game. Still a great game, but yeah. It also isn't old enough to reach that nostalgia or "classic"-ness yet.
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Goddammit, I'm number 2 on the leaderboard and I picked Mario Galaxy in this match when I originally had Super Metroid.

Needless to say I didn't expect to go up after losing one last match.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Also Samus is strong because of Metroid, character design, and SSB, not necessarily in that order. Super Metroid and Metroid Prime are the only games that she has with any strength, but they're not pushovers.

Certainly not to the level to struggle with Super Mario Galaxy I'm sorry that game is weak that's why Mass Effect beat its sequel


Mass Effect vs. Mario Kart 8, who ya got?


Mass Effect in a landslide
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11/25/2015 9:24:03 PM#125
Probably shouldn't actually be comparing them due to SFF but...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4171-southeast-division-round-3-super-mario-galaxy-vs-zelda
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6137-best-game-ever-day-22-round-2-super-metroid-vs-super-mario
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MechanicalWall posted...
Still don't know why Dark Souls and Super Metroid winning were considered upsets. It seemed fairly obvious to me. Not trying to be smug, but MGSV literally came two months ago. It hasn't had time to really sit with people yet. And even then, that ending really, really burned people. Meanwhile, Dark Souls has become synonmous with 'hardcore' gaming in the modern era. It's become almost iconic, in a way.


I went with Dark Souls because it was the older game and probably has the playrate advantage over MGSV as well.
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I knew MGSV would not beat Dark Souls. Universal backlash vs a universally loved game.
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I will say that these matches help spell doom for the rest of my bracket though, as Final Fantasy VI is going to crush Wind Waker. Look at what MM is doing to one of the newest FF games, and now reverse that. That's FFVI vs WW. It will take incredible Zelda bias to turn that one.

And as a couple posts (maybe more?) have pointed out, I am a BIT scared of Metroid versus Majora now, but I still think Zelda is a heavy and healthy favorite.
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Karma Hunter posted...
I can't even fathom Galaxy being the Guru favorite here

it's freaking

Super

Metroid

what

huh

is this how it felt to be an insufferable Mario > Samus 2005 supporter because I suddenly feel the urge to go there


you should do it
it'd be fun
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Dark Souls isn't exactly running away with it. It stalled for 2 updates then put up a decent one.

Probably over but you never know.
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I doubt anyone would care enough about MGSV to fight back.
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MGS has the night vote. If it doesn't turn s*** around soon, it's done.
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I think there's only like 3 people on this board, including myself, that likes MGSV. It's done.
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zelda is over rated
All I know is that I wish Link's Awakening/Majora's Mask happened, because we may have seen the most unexpected (non-rally powered) upset in ages.
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Updated Top 10

Top 10 Largest Vote Gaps
1. LoZ: Ocarina of Time – 36560 vs. Hearthstone – 3604 – Round 1 – 32956
2. Super Mario World – 52479 vs. Final Fantasy VIII – 24416 – Round 2 – 28063
3. LoZ: Link to the Past – 32386 vs. Cave Story – 4410 – Round 1 – 27976
4. Chrono Trigger – 33415 vs. Ratchet & Clank: UYA – 5506 – Round 1 – 27909
5. Chrono Trigger – 34045 vs. Dragon Quest VIII – 7507 – Round 2 – 26538
6. Super Mario Bros. 3 – 32381 vs. Age of Empires II – 6091 – Round 1 – 26289
7. Final Fantasy VII – 31574 vs. Journey – 5985 – Round 1 – 25589
8. Super Mario World – 40067 vs. Animal Crossing: NL – 14616 – Round 1 – 25451
9. Sonic 2 – 49491 vs. Uncharted 2 – 24692 – Round 2 – 24799
10. LoZ: Ocarina of Time – 34577 vs. Suikoden II – 10391 – Round 2 – 24186

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Donkey Kong Country 2 – 50.36% vs. Xenoblade Chronicles – 49.64% - Round 1 – 0.72%
2. Mass Effect – 50.83% vs. Super Mario Galaxy 2 – 49.17% - Round 1 – 1.66%
3. Undertale – 50.95% vs. Mass Effect 3- 49.05% - Round 1 – 1.90%
4. Final Fantasy IX – 51.09% vs. Kingdom Hearts – 48.91% - Round 1 – 2.18%
5. Paper Mario: TTYD – 51.87% vs. Tales of Symphonia – 48.13% - Round 1 – 3.74%
6. Donkey Kong Country 2 – 42.11% vs. Fire Emblem: Awakening – 47.89% - Round 2 – 4.22%
7. Sonic 2 – 53.17% vs. Portal 2 – 46.83% - Round 1 – 6.34%
8. Star Wars: KotOR – 53.65% vs. Xenogears – 46.35% - Round 1 – 8.37%
9. Super Mario RPG – 54.43% vs. TESIV: Oblivion – 45.57% - Round 1 – 8.86%
10. Metal Gear Solid V – 54.67% vs. Perfect Dark – 45.33% - Round 1 – 9.34%

Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps
1. Donkey Kong Country 2 – 17688 vs. Xenoblade Chronicles – 17434 – Round 1 – 254
2. Mass Effect – 19172 vs. Super Mario Galaxy – 18547 – Round 1 – 625
3. Final Fantasy IX – 20048 vs. Kingdom Hearts – 19194 – Round 1 – 854
4. Undertale – 28218 vs. Mass Effect 3 – 27162 – Round 1 – 1056
5. Paper Mario: TTYD – 18093 vs. Tales of Symphonia – 16786 – Round 1 – 1307
6. Donkey Kong Country 2 – 22800 vs. Fire Emblem: Awakening – 20950 – Round 2 - 1850
7. Sonic 2 – 20259 vs. Portal 2 – 17840 – Round 1 – 2419
8. Star Wars: KotOR – 18373 vs. Xenogears – 15872 – Round 1 – 2501
9. Metal Gear Solid V – 19285 vs. Perfect Dark – 15990 – Round 1 – 3295
10. Super Mario RPG – 21114 vs. TESIV: Oblivion – 17674 – Round 1 – 3440
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BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ:LttP>FFIV, MGSV>Dark Souls, SMG>SM, LoZ:MM>FFXII
Points 91/104
yagam1234 posted...
zelda is over rated


Yeah, we've heard that one before.
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Top 10 Highest Individual Votes
1. Super Mario World – Round 2 – 52479
2. Sonic 2 – Round 2 – 49491
3. Pokemon RBYG – Round 2 – 49291
4. Undertale – Round 2 – 45527
5. Super Mario World – Round 1 – 40067
6. Fallout 3 – Round 1 – 37861
7. LoZ: Ocarina of Time – Round 1 – 36560
8. LoZ: Ocarina of Time – Round 2 – 34577
9. Chrono Trigger – Round 2 – 34045
10. Super Mario 64 – Round 2 – 34034

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers
1. Fallout 3 – Round 2 – 36146
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 – Round 2 – 29362
3. Mass Effect 3 – Round 1 – 27162
4. Uncharted 2 – Round 2 – 24692
5. Final Fantasy VIII – Round 2 – 24416
6. Half-Life 2 – Round 2 – 20959
7. Fire Emblem: Awakening – Round 2 – 20950
8. GoldenEye 007 – Round 2 – 20802
9. GTA: Vice City – Round 1 – 20745
10. Kingdom Hearts – Round 1 – 19194

Top 10 Least Predictable Matches
1. Undertale vs. Fallout 3 – Round 2 – 6.83%
2. Donkey Kong Country 2 vs. Fire Emblem: Awakening – Round 2 – 21.94%
3. Undertale vs. Mass Effect 3 – Round 1 – 23.38%
4. Sonic 2 vs. Uncharted 2 – Round 2 – 25.64%
5. Chrono Cross vs. World of Warcraft – Round 1 – 27.32%
6. Final Fantasy IX vs. Okami – Round 2 – 28.54%
7. Kingdom Hearts II vs. The Last of Us – Round 2 – 29.08%
8. Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life 2 – Round 2 – 32.42%
9. Donkey Kong Country 2 vs. Xenoblade Chronicles – Round 1 – 37.98%
10. Halo vs. Minecraft – Round 1 – 38.88%
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Points 91/104
AxemRedRanger posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I can't even fathom Galaxy being the Guru favorite here

it's freaking

Super

Metroid

what

huh

is this how it felt to be an insufferable Mario > Samus 2005 supporter because I suddenly feel the urge to go there


you should do it
it'd be fun


Nah I had Mario > Samus in 2005 but most of my reaction that day was just being really really confused that it was a big deal of a match

it's kind of a running theme with me while I instead pick stupid things like Big Boss > Auron
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Karma Hunter posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I can't even fathom Galaxy being the Guru favorite here

it's freaking

Super

Metroid

what

huh

is this how it felt to be an insufferable Mario > Samus 2005 supporter because I suddenly feel the urge to go there


you should do it
it'd be fun


Nah I had Mario > Samus in 2005 but most of my reaction that day was just being really really confused that it was a big deal of a match

it's kind of a running theme with me while I instead pick stupid things like Big Boss > Auron


and metal gear solid > super mario rpg
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Karma Hunter posted...
it's kind of a running theme with me while I instead pick stupid things like Big Boss > Auron


That might happen now that FFX stunk it up this contest
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LTTP is looking kinda mortal here.
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11/25/2015 9:33:43 PM#146
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
All I know is that I wish Link's Awakening/Majora's Mask happened, because we may have seen the most unexpected (non-rally powered) upset in ages.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3456-division-3-round-1-ff3-mega-man-x-ps-iv-zelda-la
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3483-division-3-round-2-ff3-zelda-la-sonic-2-mk2

I think a fair number of people would pick LA to win. It actually has some contest feats behind it to suggest it had a chance to win.
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Samus was flat out stronger than Mario in 2k5 if you followed the x stats. Still, it did feel like one of those obvious picks. I'd say she was always the N9 most susceptible to SFF.
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WarThaNemesis2 posted...
All I know is that I wish Link's Awakening/Majora's Mask happened, because we may have seen the most unexpected (non-rally powered) upset in ages.


Eh. Link's Awakening screamed 'Fourway Wonder' to me. I wouldn't even trust it to beat MMX again 1v1.
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KamikazePotato posted...
LTTP is looking kinda mortal here.


Well it is facing the third-strongest game in the final fantasy series.
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KamikazePotato posted...
LTTP is looking kinda mortal here.


FFIV has the SNES boost too, though. No reason for ALTTP to completely blow FFIV off the hinges.
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