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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1217
Lynx_7 posted...
That's rewriting history. The prevailing line after R1 Draven was, "He needed a rally to beat Jak and Chie. That kind of rally won't be able to do anything against MMX and Ryu." I honestly don't know why there is always this doubt that these massive rallies will just up and fail. Link put up what honestly may have been the greatest contest performance of all time and still failed, or at best might have squeaked by if he had the full 24 hours, whichever version you prefer. I mean, I'd probably consider OoT the favorite still, and if it can get some counter-rally going like Link had, it should probably be fine. But Undertale is flipping what was a 70-30 match before rallies. What exactly do you have SMW getting on Undertale that makes it so impossible for it to fall too? --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
shane15 posted... Tohoya posted...shane15 posted...With real life prizes on the line Allen should either call Fallout 3 the winner or just shut the contest down tbh.Not fair that the people that legit call a bracket to near perfection get robbed of the prizes because of crap like this.There's rallying a really close match and then there's rallying something that has literally no chance whatsoever. I'd tip my hat. Rallying is part of the game. Failing to account for it is like failing to account for SFF. You're like the person who claims that constantly spamming fireballs in Street Fighter is cheating. http://sirlingames.squarespace.com/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html |
It
would be interesting to speculate on how much weaker the rally would be
had that one dumb thread not circulated around tumblr leading up to the
match. Fallout was holding up well on the initial wave until the anti-Gamefaqs rallies began. |
Tohoya posted... shane15 posted...Tohoya posted...shane15 posted...With real life prizes on the line Allen should either call Fallout 3 the winner or just shut the contest down tbh.Not fair that the people that legit call a bracket to near perfection get robbed of the prizes because of crap like this.There's rallying a really close match and then there's rallying something that has literally no chance whatsoever. Spamming fireballs is just zzzzzzz.I've watched that crap enough in tournaments. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif |
LordoftheMorons posted... Undertale is definitely going to be strong enough to beat SMW. Our only hopes are Pokemon having a high enough backfire rate and OoT winning through pure strength. So our only hope is Pokémon having a high backfire taste. Which as stated earlier today isn't even that likely because the type of people being rallied from Tumblr would actually be more likely to vote recent generations than Gen I. Undertale will have had six rounds to build momentum by the time it meets OoT, and I know the joke is "Final Fantasy Always Wins" but it's actually fairly well-known that Legend of Zelda is king here. It'd be 2007 all over again. I really thought this could've been the best spot because Undertale hasn't really built momentum yet and the timing is favorable with FO4 being released earlier this month. Sounds like fun. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
xp1337 posted... Lynx_7 posted... And when MMX and Ryu came, Draven put up arguably one of the strongest performances we've seen. Undertale had to catch up to ME3 from way behind and beat it by like 50.something% and is still playing catch-up to FO3 (it's eventually going to catch up to it most likely, but the fact that it needs this much time just to pull it off is enough to prove this isn't even near what Draven did last tournament) I mean, are you really trying to compare the rally-power behind the game with the biggest playerbase in the world right now versus a recent, relatively unknown indie game with a passionate but limited fanbase? I understand being worried that it might pull off the upset against SMW (and in the very small chance that it does, it most likely will hit a wall against Pokémon), but trying to say this is a Draven situation is overblowing it by quite a lot unless this rally picks up some major momentum from anti-gamefaqs sentiment. (edited 11/23/2015 1:16:13 PM)report |
Lynx_7 posted... but trying to say this is a Draven situation is overblowing it by quite a lot unless this rally picks up some major momentum Hey now you're getting it --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
Yeah that last update was the biggest cut Undertale has done so far. This isn't going to end up close. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
xp1337 posted... Lynx_7 posted... Nah, that was just the board in denial. It was pretty obvious right away that Draven would get past X and Ryu; the question was always whether Link would manage to win on pure strength or if even he would fall. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
From semifinals in GOTD to out in Round 2 here. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... LordoftheMorons posted...Undertale is definitely going to be strong enough to beat SMW. Our only hopes are Pokemon having a high enough backfire rate and OoT winning through pure strength. I think you're underestimating the retro culture on tumblr. They might be millennials but they appreciate their roots. |
I
think the worst people in this topic are the 'It's so great to see a
small game do so well'. A game should not be judged on whether it was
developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement,
it should be judged on the merits of the game itself. I can't wait for
the inevitable decline of indie devs, as the indie market is gradually
flooded by more and more garbage. Maybe then we can get back the
not-quite-AAA games from larger publishers that seem to have disappeared
the last couple years. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
pjbasis posted... Lynx_7 posted...but trying to say this is a Draven situation is overblowing it by quite a lot unless this rally picks up some major momentum --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
Saying the numbers here are comparable to Draven is absurd But it might still be enough when all is said and done. Undertale going to R3 or even 4 is OK with me, but I have a problem with it outright winning. --- http://i.imgur.com/wGndLtV.jpg Such a lust for revenge (edited 11/23/2015 1:21:41 PM)report |
Tohoya posted... TsunamiXXVIII posted...LordoftheMorons posted...Undertale is definitely going to be strong enough to beat SMW. Our only hopes are Pokemon having a high enough backfire rate and OoT winning through pure strength. I'm just citing what other people said. They told me that the Undertale crowd cares more about story than gameplay, and Gen I was sorely lacking in that. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
HUGE cut. Fallout is done. the best part about Undertale winning is the massive amount of buttfury its causing among certain members --- Communists |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I think the worst people in this topic are the 'It's so great to see a small game do so well'. A game should not be judged on whether it was developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement, it should be judged on the merits of the game itself. I can't wait for the inevitable decline of indie devs, as the indie market is gradually flooded by more and more garbage. Maybe then we can get back the not-quite-AAA games from larger publishers that seem to have disappeared the last couple years. Good lord you're old |
Chrono Trigger gonna shut this s*** down hard --- add the c and back away iphonesience (edited 11/23/2015 1:20:32 PM)report |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... A game should not be judged on whether it was developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement, it should be judged on the merits of the game itself. Ironically this is why we are happy to see Undertale do well. It's winning because there's a ton of people out there who think it's a good game. --- This was my signature, but Raytan, 2013 Guru champion, took it away. |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... A game should not be judged on whether it was developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement Ha, jokes on you! Toby Fox made Undertale while he was living in Andrew Hussie's basement! --- http://i.imgur.com/0JdOe85.gif http://i.imgur.com/GzqvnBq.jpg |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... xp1337 posted...Lynx_7 posted... It was never obvious it would get past MMX and Ryu. Draven in the early rounds, especially round 1, was an entirely different beast to Draven in the later rounds. (edited 11/23/2015 1:21:47 PM)report |
XIII_rocks posted... Saying the numbers here are comparable to Draven us absurd You don't really have to be Draven to win the contest. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
So who's the favorite tomorrow between Skyrim and Goldeneye? --- Formerly known as Dilated Chemist |
shane15 posted... Tohoya posted...shane15 posted...Tohoya posted...shane15 posted...With real life prizes on the line Allen should either call Fallout 3 the winner or just shut the contest down tbh.Not fair that the people that legit call a bracket to near perfection get robbed of the prizes because of crap like this.There's rallying a really close match and then there's rallying something that has literally no chance whatsoever. This sounds a lot like "I can't win so nobody should win, no more contests!" |
And
Undertales rally is great and all but I did not expect RBY to utterly
destroy SMB3, with or without a rally. That's impressive. --- Formerly known as Dilated Chemist |
SwiftyDC posted... So who's the favorite tomorrow between Skyrim and Goldeneye? Apparently people think Skyrim is still going to win. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I think the worst people in this topic are the 'It's so great to see a small game do so well'. A game should not be judged on whether it was developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement, it should be judged on the merits of the game itself. I can't wait for the inevitable decline of indie devs, as the indie market is gradually flooded by more and more garbage. Maybe then we can get back the not-quite-AAA games from larger publishers that seem to have disappeared the last couple years. I just want to point out the hypocrisy here. In most of your posts you've referred to it as "indie-garbage." Sounding like the fact it's an indie game is why you apparently hate it so much. In this post even, the "neckbeard" term you're using comes off as derogatory, as if all indie game devs are "neckbeards." Also, this game is very highly rated afaik, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad game, it means you aren't into the genre. Stop trying to tell off people for doing something that you're more guilty of than they are. --- I like dragons. Also, contrary to initial popular belief, I'm Not Darth!...Really! |
XIII_rocks posted... Saying the numbers here are comparable to Draven us absurd I'm...not really sure if I do. I've been trying to avoid anything too spoilery because what little I've heard about it--that it's kind of like Earthbound, only more progressive and stuff--makes it sound like a game I might be interested in. And it's not like I'd vote against it for bracket purposes for a couple of rounds because I had SMB3 making a deep run and stopping the Pokémenace is kind of a big thing for me now. (Roots be damned.) For me, at least, it seems to have a path that makes it easy for me to support it, at least until SM64. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
This
contest is over. What we are seeing is not Draven 2.0, but L-Block 2.0.
Too many people around here seem to forget that the "invincible" Link
was brought down way before Draven. Much like Undertale, L-Block started
out slow, but picked up momentum as it won close match after close
match. Undertale will do the same thing. In fact, Undertale has the added bonus of less time between matches. With less time between matches there is less time for people to forget about the contest. It will stay fresh in people's minds and keep the excitement of the underdog winning from dying down. --- Yay - Raytan is the guru champion of awesomeness. (edited 11/23/2015 1:26:12 PM)report |
I'm not saying Undertale can bring the full force of what Draven did, but honestly? It doesn't need to. From what we've seen so far, I feel like it's fairly reasonable to say that it can bring in enough to take down almost anything in the contest so this talk that SMW or RBY are mostly safe just strikes me as really, really bizarre just like I found it bizarre that people acted like MMX/Ryu were safe last time. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Emeraldegg posted... I just want to point out the hypocrisy here. In most of your posts you've referred to it as "indie-garbage." Sounding like the fact it's an indie game is why you apparently hate it so much. In this post even, the "neckbeard" term you're using comes off as derogatory, as if all indie game devs are "neckbeards." Also, this game is very highly rated afaik, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad game, it means you aren't into the genre. Stop trying to tell off people for doing something that you're more guilty of than they are. Yeah we all think BT makes terrible posts too --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
LordoftheMorons posted... LeonhartFour posted...the best scenario would be if FFVII somehow beat Undertale well Mario 3 is already falling to Pokemon so might as well throw this Mario gauntlet out the window --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Someone, I think whatisyourname, mentioned something about it being proven Draven cheated against MMX and Ryu. That's not true at all right? That's just him being confused or something? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LinkMarioSamus posted... SwiftyDC posted...So who's the favorite tomorrow between Skyrim and Goldeneye? Yeah, that sounds right. RPG and all, even though Goldeneye can counter with nostalgia. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
MasterOfHunters posted... shane15 posted...Tohoya posted...shane15 posted...Tohoya posted...shane15 posted...With real life prizes on the line Allen should either call Fallout 3 the winner or just shut the contest down tbh.Not fair that the people that legit call a bracket to near perfection get robbed of the prizes because of crap like this.There's rallying a really close match and then there's rallying something that has literally no chance whatsoever. How in the hell did you come to that conclusion? End of the day a lot of the games this site worships i couldn't care less about. I just sit in hope that the few games i do enjoy get as far as possible before being fed to Zelda. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif |
Emeraldegg posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...I think the worst people in this topic are the 'It's so great to see a small game do so well'. A game should not be judged on whether it was developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement, it should be judged on the merits of the game itself. I can't wait for the inevitable decline of indie devs, as the indie market is gradually flooded by more and more garbage. Maybe then we can get back the not-quite-AAA games from larger publishers that seem to have disappeared the last couple years. "neckbeard" is particularly ironic given the strong female component of Undertale's audience. Though I guess most of those are the female equivalent of neckbeards. Do we have a word for the female equivalent? |
Tohoya posted... Do we have a word for the female equivalent? fat --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
creativename posted... Someone, I think whatisyourname, mentioned something about it being proven Draven cheated against MMX and Ryu. I don't recall that ever being proven. If I had to guess it's a reference to the analysis that someone here (Lopen?) did over the rally which came to the conclusion that it couldn't be all legit. Officially though, I'm pretty sure we were told it was all legit. That or we got silence. I forget if we got a comment from Bacon every match. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? (edited 11/23/2015 1:29:20 PM)report |
pjbasis posted... Lynx_7 posted...but trying to say this is a Draven situation is overblowing it by quite a lot unless this rally picks up some major momentum The comparison to Draven is still way off-base. And I "got" it from the start, I just don't actually see it happening. Perhaps it doesn't bother me as much as most of you because I actually wouldn't mind even if it does perform over expectations. I always think these contests are better when there's an unpredictable underdog anyway, and it happens that this time it's actually a contestant I rather like, even though it's not my personal pick (Dark Souls and Persona 4 have no way in hell of winning this anyway). |
SwiftyDC posted... So who's the favorite tomorrow between Skyrim and Goldeneye? I don't have a feel for that match. I'm siding with GoldenEye but it could go either way. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Tohoya posted... Emeraldegg posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...I think the worst people in this topic are the 'It's so great to see a small game do so well'. A game should not be judged on whether it was developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement, it should be judged on the merits of the game itself. I can't wait for the inevitable decline of indie devs, as the indie market is gradually flooded by more and more garbage. Maybe then we can get back the not-quite-AAA games from larger publishers that seem to have disappeared the last couple years. I'd go with fat ass ugly chicks >_> --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif |
cyko posted... This contest is over. What we are seeing is not Draven 2.0, but L-Block 2.0. Too many people around here seem to forget that the "invincible" Link was brought down way before Draven. Much like Undertale, L-Block started out slow, but picked up momentum as it won close match after close match. Undertale will do the same thing. Actually I already made the L-Block comparison. TsunamiXXVIII posted... LordoftheMorons posted...Undertale is definitely going to be strong enough to beat SMW. Our only hopes are Pokemon having a high enough backfire rate and OoT winning through pure strength. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
Pokemon
is the real dealbreaker. If Undertale gets through that, then...
Ocarina of Time will be an interesting match but OOT will be portrayed
as the villain just because of the bracket positioning. But if Pokemon wins, backlash leads to Super Mario 64 winning against Pokemon next round? :O |
So, RBY seems to be putting up more on SMB3 than AC:NL did on SMW in tumblr votes, isn't it? so much for "they don't care about gen 1" lol, sure new Pokemon is stronger but its strength does apply downwards too (edited 11/23/2015 1:31:14 PM)report |
Wonder if tumblr spillover votes would favor Goldeneye. They didn't seem to like Skyrim too much last time around! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
VeryInsane posted... then... Ocarina of Time will be an interesting match but OOT will be portrayed as the villain just because of the bracket positioning. I think the real question there is if the board will go to the same lengths to rally OoT as it did for Link. If so, pretty sure OoT has it. If not... I don't know. I think it's questionable. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
1337gamerpr0 posted... So, RBY seems to be putting up more on SMB3 than AC:NL did on SMW in tumblr votes, isn't it? No way. RBY/SMB3 is probably a 53/47 match normally, this isn't THAT much higher than the norm. Tumblr turned Animal Crossing from losing with 18% to winning updates. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Will the spillover favour Skyrim or goldeneye? I would think Skyrim but I dunno. I have a testicle on the line this is important. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Well,
I think that'd be more of Tumblr favoring PW than anything. I don't
think any of the matches will have a particular leaning except maybe
P4/TP. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Emeraldegg posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...I think the worst people in this topic are the 'It's so great to see a small game do so well'. A game should not be judged on whether it was developed by a AAA studio or by some neckbeard in his mother's basement, it should be judged on the merits of the game itself. I can't wait for the inevitable decline of indie devs, as the indie market is gradually flooded by more and more garbage. Maybe then we can get back the not-quite-AAA games from larger publishers that seem to have disappeared the last couple years. I refer to it as indie-garbage because that's what it is. There are plenty of great indie games, but for every 1 great indie game, there are at least 10 steaming piles of hot trash. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
