transience posted...
in europe, definitely. in america it was big but I really think the snes/genesis rivalry drove that more than people thinking sonic 1/2/3 were the best games ever.


i just can't imagine why there would be a rivalry between the two if not for sonic. take those away and like... it's not even close.
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shane15 posted...
It'll be hard to rally for Fallout 3 if it comes to it because everyone is too busy playing Fallout 4.If porn takes a backseat to it then i'm pretty sure this place does as well.


Impossible to rally to beat a mario world sure. If fallout needs an extra 1000 votes just to fend off Undertale (the amount it beat Me3 by) then that's doable. Easily. Im pretty sure my threads and posts have boosted fallout by a few hundred votes already.
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transience posted...
in europe, definitely. in america it was big but I really think the snes/genesis rivalry drove that more than people thinking sonic 1/2/3 were the best games ever.


I dunno, I'm sure plenty would say that at least one Sonic game on the Genesis is one of their favorite games. Then again this could be if they just grew up on the game.

Makes me think of how I finished replaying Link to the Past earlier this year and then pretty much forgot about the game immediately. Great game, but it probably would have had more impact on me had I been an SNES kid.
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Steiner posted...
transience posted...
in europe, definitely. in america it was big but I really think the snes/genesis rivalry drove that more than people thinking sonic 1/2/3 were the best games ever.


i just can't imagine why there would be a rivalry between the two if not for sonic. take those away and like... it's not even close.


Yeah the rivalry really only started when Sonic debuted.
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transience posted...
in europe, definitely. in america it was big but I really think the snes/genesis rivalry drove that more than people thinking sonic 1/2/3 were the best games ever.

Sonic 1 and 2 were terrific games.

I never played 3 but that was supposed to be even better!

You really seem to be underrating Sonic IMO.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Makes me think of how I finished replaying Link to the Past earlier this year and then pretty much forgot about the game immediately. Great game, but it probably would have had more impact on me had I been an SNES kid.


i had this exact thought about LttP recently. It's a while since I played it but I see the amount of people revering it as an all time great and I feel like if my childhood had featured that game they would be VERY fond memories, as it is I just remember it as another good zelda.
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I feel the same about lttp. Played it back in 2004 and didnt have much effect on me. But it was still a great game. Where's the Oracle game hold a special place for me because those were my first 2d zelda and my 2nd favourite only to Ocarina.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
I feel the same about lttp. Played it back in 2004 and didnt have much effect on me. But it was still a great game. Where's the Oracle game hold a special place for me because those were my first 2d zelda and my 2nd favourite only to Ocarina.


exact same
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8.5 hour update:

Fallout 3 is up 4955
Mass Effect 3 was up 5084

given that Fallout 3 has absorbed the first part of the rally this is pretty good for it
Honestly, I think that the Sonic games are benefitting the way that Pokemon benefits from the site getting older. In the late 90's/early 2000's, when most of the site were teenagers, Sonic games were very clearly marketed as childrens games, causing backlash against the games (and indeed the character). Now that we're almost 25 years separated from Sonic 1/2, people are looking back with nostalgia on the early games rather than focusing on the garbage new games.

I expect Sonic to perform well in the next Character Battle.
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lol xstats
Depends when we have it.

If nx blows open like wii interms of popularity and we have more users sonic will get left in the dust.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
Depends when we have it.

If nx blows open like wii interms of popularity and we have more users sonic will get left in the dust.


that's some olympic level leaping you have there
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Sonic wasn't marketed for children, it was clearly for teens. Sonic was the hip, cool thing while Mario and Nintendo was for kiddies.
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Points 71/80
5000 vote fallout lead established
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charmander6000 posted...
Sonic wasn't marketed for children, it was clearly for teens. Sonic was the hip, cool thing while Mario and Nintendo was for kiddies.


Not in the late 90's and early 2000's
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It still was, it may have shifted a bit towards 12-15 year olds, but you don't get games like Shadow the Hedgehog with kids in mind.
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BGE3: Today's Matches Pokemon RBYG>SMB3, Sonic 2>Uncharted 2, Fallout 3>ME3, SMW>FFVIII
Points 71/80
So.. people who underatand stats: how are Undertale's odds?

The only thing I'm seeing is Fallout gaining but apparently Undertale has a good chance at a comeback?
Just wait for the US to wake up. Then we'll see what Undertale does.
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Halo may have lost but its ghost is lingering into this match.

NOT EVEN A TEN-THOUSAND VOTE LEAD CAN STOP THE INEVITABLE COMEBACK
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So.. people who underatand stats: how are Undertale's odds?

The small fish ralliers are keeping it winnable, but the big fish need to start linking soon. If Undertale doesn't make a move by the time it made a move against ME3 then it's likely over.
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BGE3: Today's Matches Pokemon RBYG>SMB3, Sonic 2>Uncharted 2, Fallout 3>ME3, SMW>FFVIII
Points 71/80
transcience posted...
well, the lead now is identical to me3's lead at this time. I don't know how many votes Undertale has to pull from but if it can muster something like last round, it'll win.


Except the rally is already ongoing, when it wasn't yet with Mass Effect. I don't see at all how Undertale could possibly win this. Am I missing something?
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Swarles_Barkley posted...
transcience posted...
well, the lead now is identical to me3's lead at this time. I don't know how many votes Undertale has to pull from but if it can muster something like last round, it'll win.


Except the rally is already ongoing, when it wasn't yet with Mass Effect. I don't see at all how Undertale could possibly win this. Am I missing something?


the rally starting earlier, on tumblr, means it has a chance to end up significantly bigger than it did the first time. people aren't even logging on to tumblr in large numbers yet. if 2000 people have reblogged the rally post by the time tumblr hits peak as opposed to 1000 last time, it could spell trouble
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all i know is that if these results hold i've successfully navigated this day in battle bracket (and my actual bracket but that's still trash so who cares)

unfortunately i'd probably lose it all tomorrow on skyrim/goldeneye
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the only thing worse than Mario 3 losing today is the idea of SMW beating RBY, continuing to perpetuate one of the greatest lies in history that is SMW > SMB3.

I'm not sure if SMB3 wins, but if it would have it would be very close. I don't think there's much room for SMB3 > SMW > Pokemon RBYG
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BGE3: Today's Matches Pokemon RBYG>SMB3, Sonic 2>Uncharted 2, Fallout 3>ME3, SMW>FFVIII
Points 71/80
Fallout still running steady. holding its ground in %
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Thought about the Undertale rally:

Since the demographic is mostly high-school aged kids (also mostly female) and Tumblr lends itself less to mobile usage, was the last rally (and this potential one) an indication of the ASV?
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The impression I've got, which is entirely from reading the back-and-forth here and could thus be way off, is that the rally taking off late in the day in R1 was coincidental. It just happened to be sent out by someone with a lot of followers then. Nothing to do with trends.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
Halo may have lost but its ghost is lingering into this match.

NOT EVEN A TEN-THOUSAND VOTE LEAD CAN STOP THE INEVITABLE COMEBACK


Glad I'm not the only one who was reminded of this match. <_<
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It kills me to know who is that person and what is he doing right now

Maybe he is playing Fallout 4
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The same guy posted a rally today too though.
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The rally started kind of late for an ASV. Who knows though.
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Undertale didn't cut until 1.5 hours into the ASV and it didn't start making monster cuts until 6pm
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BGE3: Today's Matches Pokemon RBYG>SMB3, Sonic 2>Uncharted 2, Fallout 3>ME3, SMW>FFVIII
Points 71/80
Mario 3 losing is the worst! But it doing 45% is a good indication that Mario World can get it done. I mean we're talking the SNES here. I'm also thinking World is the top Mario game at this point, with 64 in second.
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well, the rally has clearly started and is still bringing in elevated votals, just compare this to ME3/Undertale
Since we have an ongoing rally (with about 1700 notes right now), if Undertale starts making gains with the start of the ASV, that would suggest a younger age demographic for Tumblr.
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tumblr very much has trends - say I have posted something during the night, it won't be until late in the day when people get home, get on tumblr and go through their night's stuff that it starts getting notes. admittedly, it will really help if one of those is a large blog, but if 2000 blogs averaging 100 followers each (conservatively) have reblogged it by the time the proverbial kiddies get home from proverbial school, there is plenty of s*** yet to hit this fan
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ExThaNemesis posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Eh, there's plenty of room and variation for Pokemon to win 55/45 and still lose to either one of them.


True but this is still pretty impressive. This is without a rally too. If that happens and things go as expected this match could get really ugly.


Without a rally? Tumblr is indirectly rallying it.

I picked SM64 to beat it and I feel pretty good about that especially since most gurus did not take the same path.
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TheKoolAidShoto posted...
the only thing worse than Mario 3 losing today is the idea of SMW beating RBY, continuing to perpetuate one of the greatest lies in history that is SMW > SMB3.


SMW is better in literally every department.The fact people think SMB3 is better than it is one of the biggest mysteries in gaming for me.
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6000 vote barrier has been set
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Fallout is looking very good. It bore the brunt of Tumblr right off the bat which ME3 did not have to deal with. You can't compare the leads because hardly any rallied votes were coming in for Undertale until 6 pm. Unless some seriously huge people reblog it I think fallout has this. The backfire rate is too high.
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shane15 posted...
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
the only thing worse than Mario 3 losing today is the idea of SMW beating RBY, continuing to perpetuate one of the greatest lies in history that is SMW > SMB3.


SMW is better in literally every department.The fact people think SMB3 is better than it is one of the biggest mysteries in gaming for me.


The worlds in 3 could be argued as better. Power ups too.

Music possibly.

I prefer 3 myself, but obviously World is a more polished game in many instances.

Oh Mario 3 also has that baller card game.
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Fallout only gaining about 30 per update now and starting to bleed % again :s
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hey Leon, here I go again

assuming this SMW/FF8 match is legit and using the 58/42 from before the rally last time, what does SMW get on FFX through VC and RE4? I'm guessing about 50/50?
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Undertale cut! :(

hooooooo boy
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This match has had some funky 2-3 updates that haven't affected the larger trend. I would probably not say Undertale is really gaining unless it gets 5 cuts in a row or something.
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
Undertale cut! :(

hooooooo boy


And then it collapsed the next update
B-O-R-I-N-G
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Julian_Caesar posted...
This match has had some funky 2-3 updates that haven't affected the larger trend. I would probably not say Undertale is really gaining unless it gets 5 cuts in a row or something.


remember the first cut we took notice of last time was a 200 update

one of those would panic me
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just 13 hours of boring and we're saved
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god i hope to be bored the entire next 13 hours
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