LeonhartFour posted...
Those are completely arbitrary figures though. It's possible these would have been more popular polls as it is.

Melee only getting 54% on G/S/C? I don't feel like it was trending in that direction. Melee was bleeding overnight but it would've stopped once daybreak arrived.


Well you'll like the one I just posted a lot more...!

These aren't ironclad or anything, just throwing out numbers.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
nope to that one too - FFX wasn't even that high during the board vote.
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xyzzy
11/21/2015 5:14:16 PM#403
No way was FFX trending that high. Even at its very best, FFX was pulling in less than 58% with the night vote.
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Hmm I didn't see that reddit rally. That's why Smash Melee went up...
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I do think that without any rallies, Melee gets an even 56% on GSC. That's pretty much what it was projected to get in GotD so I don't think this result is anything special.

FFX...well, hey, if Arkham City is equal to Arkham Asylum from 2010 then it's looking amazing! Haha...ha...
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
lol at Melee dropping .01% 4 consecutive updates
you dirty filthy ralliers
ROUND 2 – DAY 2 – ALL OF DIVISION 2

Match LXIX: (1) Final Fantasy VI vs. (8) Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Previous Rounds

Final Fantasy VI
77.03% against Assassin’s Creed II

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
51.87% against Tales of Symphonia

Analysis

Final Fantasy VI looked really impressive, even if you take an Assassin’s Creed II drop into account. The game looks set to take on Wind Waker before proving what it is really worth on Final Fantasy VII.

While it was a bit closer than I anticipated Paper Mario: TTYD was able to use the day vote to finish ahead of Tales of Symphonia. The game has no chance to win here, but it may give us an idea on to what Final Fantasy VI is capable of. Looking at the x-stats Wind Waker is expected to get 60.73% on Paper Mario: TTYD. I feel FFVI will finish significantly higher than that.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VI > Paper Mario: TTYD

charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VI wins, 64.52% - 35.48%



Match LXX: (5) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic vs. (4) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Previous Rounds

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
53.65% against Xenogears

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
72.60% against Pokemon XY

Analysis

Xenogears looked quite impressive in its lost last round and while this is the first time it was given a fair match I can’t help, but think some of this performance was due to KotOR being weaker. It doesn’t make complete sense since the game is old enough to avoid the drop off seen by last gen games, but watching Halo completely bomb does put the thought on whether that was a Halo or Xbox thing.

Regardless of the answer Wind Waker should have no issue winning this match. Whether or not it SFF Pokemon XY is up for debate, but the game has always shown it has strength. I still consider Wind Waker an upset potential for next round, but I feel it would have to out-perform FFVI if it wants to have a chance.

charmander6000’s Bracket: LoZ: The Wind Waker > Star Wars: KotOR

charmander6000’s Prediction: LoZ: The Wind Waker wins, 62.42% - 37.58%
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Points 57/64
Match LXXI: (3) Super Smash Bros. for Wii U vs. (11) Mass Effect

Previous Rounds

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
79.05% against Planescape: Torment

Mass Effect
50.83% against Super Mario Galaxy 2

Analysis

This is the only match where my winner didn’t even reach the match and I still maintain that the upset would have happened. Super Smash Bros. looked good last round, but the fact of the matter is that we have no idea on the strength of Planescape, it literally had its first poll last round. Honestly anyone with strength could have crushed it for all we know.

The main reason for my doubt in Super Smash Bros. is that it is a Wii U game. Wii U and new games overall have flopped quite badly this contest and while Super Smash Bros. is a likely candidate to being an exception it was never going to be anywhere near Melee. Name recognition can only get you so far, just ask Mario.

Of course SSBWiiU has a lot of breathing room to work with; Mass Effect was worth around 36% on Melee during Game of the Decade and there’s a chance it could be weaker this contest. The one thing that could have made a difference was Cloud’s announcement to Smash, especially if the match ends up being close or the potential of a rally.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Super Mario Galaxy > Super Smash Bros. for Wii U

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mass Effect wins, 53.62% - 46.38%



Match LXXII: (10) Halo: Combat Evolved vs. (2) Final Fantasy VII

Previous Rounds

Halo: Combat Evolved
56.72% against Minecraft

Final Fantasy VII
84.07% against Journey

Analysis

Halo along with Halo 3 looked pretty bad this contest and with a match against a potential finalist things could end up looking worse. I have little faith that Minecraft has any strength on this site, especially since no rallying occurred.

The funny thing is Final Fantasy VII won’t have to worry about any potential for anti-votes since it is up against a game arguably more hated than it. This could get quite ugly given what Halo 3 is shaping up to look like, I wouldn’t be surprised if FFVII easily broke 80%.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VII > Halo

charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VII wins, 79.83% - 20.17%
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Points 57/64
transience posted...
_SJimW_ posted...
transience posted...
Smash, in general, has been on the decline from the sky high point it was at around 06-07 when Brawl hype was insane and nobody characters were above the fodder line. today, while Smash is just as popular or moreso globally, it doesn't quite hit the peak of where we were then. when was the last Smash topic we had discussing the game? I see a few topics here and there about doing an online match but otherwise it's pretty quiet. Smash just doesn't have the relevance on GameFAQs that it did once upon a time. put a game contest in '08 or so and Smash is absolutely a top 5 game.


I don't necessarily disagree but I don't understand why this is a metric we're judging games by. How many topics do you see people make discussing OoT? It's still probably the most popular game on this site.


I get what you're saying but either you weren't here or you don't remember what it was like in 06, 07, 08

http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/06Spring/06-SnakeStrikesSSB.jpg


I was here but I didn't really follow contests until 2013. From what I can gather what happens on GameFAQs as a forum and what happens on these polls doesn't really correlate, hence why Suikoden beat MH.

I think Smash has definitely fallen because of the lack of Brawl hype since that's something that affected the internet as a whole, but my other point is that I think that Brawl hype is only what made up a small portion of Smash's strength. Today's results support this since Melee is doing pretty well anyways.
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I had some tentative confidence in Mass Effect, but looking at that Melee rally it's going to link to the next match when it comes up. Unless SSB4 is straight up reviled by the Smash community for some reason I can't imagine that doing anything but giving Smash 4 another reason to have cushion enough to stave off an upset.
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Karma Hunter posted...
Unless SSB4 is straight up reviled by the Smash community for some reason


The most dedicated Melee fans don't like Smash 4, so this might actually happen.
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swirIdude posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Unless SSB4 is straight up reviled by the Smash community for some reason


The most dedicated Melee fans don't like Smash 4, so this might actually happen.


They probably like Smash 4 more than they like Mass Effect.
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Thing is, even granting the possibility of SSB4 being generally hated by r/Smash, there's too much priming going on in that rally thread. It talks about Melee. It says it's linking to Melee. Every reply in the thread is talking about Melee or the contest in general. By the time a voter gets to seeing

http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/bge20/25.jpg

there's a really big probability that they'll just automatically click Vote and lock in their selection without thinking too much about it. They do studies based on this kind of thing!
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11/21/2015 6:19:12 PM#415
I'd have seriously considered ME1 had it beaten Galaxy 1 instead of Galaxy 2. I think it'll do well, but I have a hard time seeing it winning. That would make Smash 4 a lot weaker than Melee or Brawl ever were.
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Yeah I didn't even bring up the possibility that SSB4 is just a tier above ME before even getting into rallying. Being essentially equal to SMG2 doesn't inspire massive reservoirs of faith in a game.

But dangit I had to pick against Smash 4 don't you understand it's so lame
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r/smashbros is like half Melee fans half Smash 4 fans, but the Smash 4 fans aren't as passionate, additionally basically everyone there likes the games from a competitive standpoint. Which means that the Smash 4 fans usually at least like Melee, they just don't get into it as much as they do Smash 4 for one reason or another, whereas the Melee fans don't usually care for Smash 4. This is just casual observation and the tl;dr is that the sub could probably rally for either game but a Melee rally would be more effective.
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just make a new Melee topic every day linking to the contest matches. after a while they'll either get sick of it or ignore it
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iphonesience
transcience posted...
just make a new Melee topic every day linking to the contest matches. after a while they'll either get sick of it or ignore it


Tbh after seeing the most recent one I don't think a rally is going to be super effective, a lot of the comments were basically lolGameFAQs

It makes me wonder why the League community cared so much about their rally, to the point where reddit people even came here to post some

I def think Chrono Trigger's gonna take the division tbh
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11/21/2015 6:34:37 PM#420
_SJimW_ posted...
a lot of the comments were basically lolGameFAQs


Pretty much every rally topic on another site is like that

our tastes are a laughingstock to most other gaming sites
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LeonhartFour posted...
_SJimW_ posted...
a lot of the comments were basically lolGameFAQs


Pretty much every rally topic on another site is like that

our tastes are a laughingstock to most other gaming sites


I mean I think a lot of that is also GameFAQs just being synonymous with like 14 year old trolls from the mid 2000s (even though the average age of our site is 27 or w/e now)

On NeoGAF I sometimes see blatant s***posts being compared to "GameFAQs"
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The vocal minority is just that, vocal. There were plenty of people in the r/LoL reddit threads dissing the rally threads, though the schadenfreude in messing with the board (which I think you could access significantly more easily than you can today) kinda outweighed that.

In any event, you can't say the r/Smash rally doesn't have an effect. The inflated votals, if nothing else, are conclusive evidence otherwise.
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To be fair, some boards like Nonstop Gaming really are basically what the people on other sites think of GameFAQs. If they're not 14 they at least try their hardest to act that way
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The raging against Link and Snake was delicious, especially as Snake hasn't even won a contest. "These people have held contests every few months for 10 years, and Link or Snake always wins."
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11/21/2015 7:04:04 PM#425
red sox 777 posted...
The raging against Link and Snake was delicious, especially as Snake hasn't even won a contest. "These people have held contests every few months for 10 years, and Link or Snake always wins."


this could work in Cloud's favor next Character Battle...!
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Link/Snake Always Wins + Smash Boost + FFVII Remake = 46.5% on Link
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it will be a glorious return to form

I bet a lot of people here yearn for just a normal link vs. cloud match
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xyzzy
11/21/2015 7:12:28 PM#428
transience posted...
it will be a glorious return to form

I bet a lot of people here yearn for just a normal link vs. cloud match


We haven't had one in 5 years!
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xyzzy
Then00bAvenger posted...
To be fair, some boards like Nonstop Gaming really are basically what the people on other sites think of GameFAQs. If they're not 14 they at least try their hardest to act that way


GameFAQs as a whole is basically a bunch of people in the mid-20s acting like they're still 10 years younger
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so what're people expecting out of FF6? enough rally talk, it gets us nowhere
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iphonesience
11/21/2015 7:42:05 PM#432
my policy now is just go crazy with old games

70%
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if ff6 hits 70%, do you think it has a legit shot at ff7?
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iphonesience
11/21/2015 7:45:09 PM#434
Depends on what FFVII does.

TTYD obviously beats Halo 1, so FFVII needs to clear FFVI's percentage by a good bit.
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Looks like it'll be rallied Melee vs OoT in the final
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11/21/2015 8:26:09 PM#436
It's not like Melee is overperforming by an absurd amount here or anything.
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rallies usually aren't that strong if you're in the lead

though draven did go to town on mega man x and ryu
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Draven is still perhaps one of the all-time weirdest character rallies. It still confuses how that happened. Why that happened!
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I haven't been around for most of this day's matches and only got around to voting less than 5 hours ago. When I saw the updates for the Melee match, I was a bit surprised at the massive percentage increase for Melee during the day vote and it seems like a rally was the cause for this increase (based on what I read in this topic).

Also, I'm a bit surprised that TLoU has turned out to be even weaker than MGS4 in strength. I thought it would be stronger than MGS4 strength.
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11/21/2015 8:34:13 PM#440
Only if KH2 doesn't bomb against our eventual contest finalist Our The Super Smash Brothers Melee
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11/21/2015 8:42:34 PM#442
The strength of MGSes everywhere depends on it

I know KH2 won't let us down
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LeonhartFour posted...
MGS redeemed


More like LOL The Last of Us

Which is even a bigger LOL to Halo 3
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_SJimW_ posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
_SJimW_ posted...
a lot of the comments were basically lolGameFAQs


Pretty much every rally topic on another site is like that

our tastes are a laughingstock to most other gaming sites


I mean I think a lot of that is also GameFAQs just being synonymous with like 14 year old trolls from the mid 2000s (even though the average age of our site is 27 or w/e now)

On NeoGAF I sometimes see blatant s***posts being compared to "GameFAQs"


They have a point though. Most of the people on this site were 14 in the mid 2000's.
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lol xstats
other sites don't look at social boards. they go to the halo board or the smash bros board and see what the discourse is like and laugh at us
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xyzzy
11/21/2015 9:00:54 PM#446
Yeah, back on the leaderboard!

82.20% for CT
44.02% for FFX
58.12% for SSBM
29.08% for KH2
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I expected a better opening vote from smash
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FFVII was over 80% when I voted.
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11/21/2015 9:01:28 PM#449
FFVII dominatin'

FFVI duddin'
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oh my goodness halo
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