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A hundred heroes of warcraft arrayed themselves in a defensive formation, ready to strike, waiting for their foe. Though they tried to hide it, the crowd filling the stands above could see the fear written in their faces, the utter terror.

Then he entered the stadium. Alone. The one.

This year, the competition had instituted a new rule- each world's representative could select a team to bring with him to the battle. Most captains had chosen to bring entire armies. Indeed, a massive fleet of intergalactic carriers floated in the skies, awaiting their turn.

But not the one. The one had brought no one with him. No one had seen anyone the one had brought, and many had thought he was keeping his team a secret. But there was no one with the champion, the tyrant, as he walked into the stadium.

Nor did he bear any weapons. He was dressed only in his trademark simple green tunic, the relic of an earlier time. There was no shield on his back, no sword in his hand, no scabbard, no bow, nothing.

He did not speak. He simply walked forward, each step taking him closer to the fortifications of the hundred heroes. There was no variation in his step, no sign that anything in reality could alter the pace of his footsteps.

The one walked forward. And the first hero bowed. Swiftly, all the rest prostrated themselves on the ground. A flag showing three golden triangles atop a set of wings was raised over the stadium. And Link continued his walk at the same pace, reaching the other side of the area and disappearing through the doors.

And there was great rejoicing in the stands above.
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red sox 777 posted...
A hundred heroes of warcraft arrayed themselves in a defensive formation, ready to strike, waiting for their foe. Though they tried to hide it, the crowd filling the stands above could see the fear written in their faces, the utter terror.

Then he entered the stadium. Alone. The one.

This year, the competition had instituted a new rule- each world's representative could select a team to bring with him to the battle. Most captains had chosen to bring entire armies. Indeed, a massive fleet of intergalactic carriers floated in the skies, awaiting their turn.

But not the one. The one had brought no one with him. No one had seen anyone the one had brought, and many had thought he was keeping his team a secret. But there was no one with the champion, the tyrant, as he walked into the stadium.

Nor did he bear any weapons. He was dressed only in his trademark simple green tunic, the relic of an earlier time. There was no shield on his back, no sword in his hand, no scabbard, no bow, nothing.

He did not speak. He simply walked forward, each step taking him closer to the fortifications of the hundred heroes. There was no variation in his step, no sign that anything in reality could alter the pace of his footsteps.

The one walked forward. And the first hero bowed. Swiftly, all the rest prostrated themselves on the ground. A flag showing three golden triangles atop a set of wings was raised over the stadium. And Link continued his walk at the same pace, reaching the other side of the area and disappearing through the doors.

And there was great rejoicing in the stands above.


Is this Yoblazer's fan fic?
That's my fanfic!
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11/20/2015 10:55:41 PM#7
MMX is about to hit 45%.

Lets actually pass it this time!

EDIT: Oh come on now. Why U no pass 55%?
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Man looking at this (while FFX should at least push the percentages out by the time it's all said and done) I can't help but think of another silver lining for FFX not winning GOTD; this would be one heck of a fall from grace if it had.

(Un)fortunately we still have time to see that with MM which half the board has put a CRAZY amount of faith into based on GOTD apparently
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Karma Hunter posted...
Man looking at this (while FFX should at least push the percentages out by the time it's all said and done) I can't help but think of another silver lining for FFX not winning GOTD; this would be one heck of a fall from grace if it had.

(Un)fortunately we still have time to see that with MM which half the board has put a CRAZY amount of faith into based on GOTD apparently


Majora is facing YEAR OF SNES it has no chance
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Man, what's MM facing anyway

Super Metroid uhhhhhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh looking at this MMX percentage

DANGER

DANGER

DANGER

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Maybe Brawl rSFFed Melee in GotD!

Most of the people who loved Brawl back then and preferred it to Melee still really liked Melee and would have usually voted for it against outside competition. Whereas a lot of the big Melee fans hated Brawl and were generally a lot less likely to vote for it no matter who its opponent was!
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Karma Hunter posted...
Man, what's MM facing anyway

Super Metroid uhhhhhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh looking at this MMX percentage

DANGER

DANGER

DANGER


Super Metroid looked good in the first round!

Hey, what does Super Metroid get on Majora's Mask based on GotD?

(Super Metroid over Majora's Mask would be the dumbest upset, and I would love it)
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The DANGER is for Majora's Mask if a game that it is literally dead equal to is getting 55% on Mega Man X

Do you think Super Metroid would fail to break 55% on Mega Man X

(I don't think there are any good ways to measure Super Metroid, it's always stuck facing - and underwhelming - in matches with lots of Nintendo)
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11/20/2015 11:22:27 PM#18
pjbasis posted...
Hey Leon can you "bless" Banjo-Kazooie with your unluck?


I don't think B-K will need my blessing to get destroyed by SOTN and I wouldn't deign to pretend to be a fanboy of it to make it suffer.

(Sadly for you I've never played SOTN so it won't work in reverse either)
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If Super Metroid beats Majora's Mask (assuming it beats galaxy, because why not) I will do something crazy. Because Metroid has always gotten completely aethered by zelda.
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11/20/2015 11:25:02 PM#20
Karma Hunter posted...
Do you think Super Metroid would fail to break 55% on Mega Man X


I mean it barely broke 50% on Super Mario Kart twice...!

WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Hey, what does Super Metroid get on Majora's Mask based on GotD?


65.39%

pretty close to what CT is projected at currently

maybe all SNES games are stronger than Majora's Mask now and this is actually REALLY IMPRESSIVE for FFX
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LeonhartFour posted...
pjbasis posted...
Hey Leon can you "bless" Banjo-Kazooie with your unluck?


I don't think B-K will need my blessing to get destroyed by SOTN and I wouldn't deign to pretend to be a fanboy of it to make it suffer.

(Sadly for you I've never played SOTN so it won't work in reverse either)


I'm holding out hope

Well, not really, but i made that prediction so I'm gonna stick with it to the end.
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G/S/C will probably end up with 44-45% here.

There was this game that once scored 55% on G/S/C despite being LFFed by FFT, sad that its series has completely fallen off the cliff, otherwise it could do some damage.
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11/20/2015 11:26:24 PM#23
augh stop trying to wedge SFF and LFF into every match

it doesn't work that way
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After this it would not surprise me if Super Mario Kart were somehow stronger than every game made after OoT/FFVII.
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I believe OOT was right around a doubling against FFX, with Brawl and MGS4 in the poll. OOT was probably hurt a little more, but that poll should be fairly close.
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11/20/2015 11:30:43 PM#26
63% update for FFX

wake up Europe wake up
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heh, too bad Europe doesn't make up more of the vote, then FFX probably would've won GOTD :P
Uh....Melee already fell below 58%. And it's only 2:30. It may not end much higher than MM did.
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Achromatic posted...
(assuming it beats galaxy, because why not)


Does anyone actually doubt that at all at this point?
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Something I've thought of regarding Mario Kart is that it's done well in multi-way polls and flopped horribly 1-on-1.

I mean part of that's just coincidence (SMK and MK64 are certainly going to be stronger than the later games and happened to end up in the fourway contest whereas DS, Wii, and MK8 got 1-on-1) but then you've also got this:

www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2438-ultima-division-round-1-mega-man-vs-mario-kart
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4427-which-franchise-that-started-on-the-snes-is-your-all-time

If the four-way format favored Mario Kart, that would make Super Metroid's two near-draws against SMK look better. And given how strong Samus is, even back in 2002 before Metroid Prime came out, you'd certainly figure the game would have had fairly high strength.
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11/20/2015 11:33:34 PM#31
I kinda doubt it because Super Metroid does have a tendency to look bad whenever it faces Nintendo. CoD4 isn't the barometer test to prove Super Metroid is suddenly now able to handle Nintendo when it couldn't do so in previous contests.
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NeoElfboy posted...
Achromatic posted...
(assuming it beats galaxy, because why not)


Does anyone actually doubt that at all at this point?


Never doubt Super Metroid's ability to collapse the moment anything on a Nintendo system with the word 'Mario' or 'Zelda' opposes it.
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11/20/2015 11:34:13 PM#33
I wonder how weak Samus would've been in 2002 without Smash Bros. before Prime came out.
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LeonhartFour posted...
I wonder how weak Samus would've been in 2002 without Smash Bros. before Prime came out.


She would have won the contest, just to make her make even less sense statistically.
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But its only faced fellow SNES games before! The generation gap to MM may place it out of the reach of the hierarchy.
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11/20/2015 11:37:48 PM#36
Current X-Stats in case anyone missed them last topic (and slightly updated):

Chrono Trigger – 50.00%
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King – 17.74%
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 – 16.07%
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal – 14.15%

DQ8 gets 60.12% on UYA, P3 gets 55.97%

Final Fantasy X – 50.00%
Mega Man X – 44.44%
Half-Life – 35.58%
Batman: Arkham City – 34.95%

Half-Life gets 50.89% on Arkham City and 40.03% on MMX.

Super Smash Bros. Melee – 50.00%
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal – 42.05%
Portal – 32.29%
The World Ends With You – 19.65%

Portal gets 69.57% on TWEWY and 38.39% on G/S/C.

Kingdom Hearts II – 50.00%
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots – 41.29%
The Last of Us – 40.35%
Halo 3 – 26.23%

MGS4 gets 68.24% on Halo 3 and 51.14% on The Last of Us.
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Why are people still using GSC to judge RBY's chances? Not only has gen I proved itself much stronger before, GSC is also doing about what we'd expect. 60-40 in SMB3's favor? Cmon Ulti, there is no way SMB3 would terrorize Melee and it'd need to for that result to be true.

Actually, today's result makes me feel pretty good about RBY. I'll look like an idiot if it loses after how much I've defended it. It's just that most of the arguments people are throwing are really bad.
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it's been a while since Leon and I both wanted Europe to alter a match so much

I love MMX but FFX should be at like 60-40 here ffs
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11/20/2015 11:40:12 PM#39
Super Mario Galaxy actually is a really good test for Super Metroid. It's definitely the strongest modern (i.e., 2000s) Mario game, but it's still quite a ways below the elite Nintendo games. The generational gap of old and new should favor Super Metroid as we've seen so far. If Super Metroid can't win that, it's hopeless.
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Anyways, a much as I love FFX, it pleases me to see MMX do this well. I hate that I didn't go through with Chrono Trigger when I almost picked it the last day aagainst Melee. The other matches I think are close to what I guessed in the Oracle.
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I wasn't asking for you to pretend to like it. I thought maybe if all the things you like suck then maybe all the things you hate will do really good.

So...thanks!
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11/20/2015 11:44:30 PM#42
pjbasis posted...
I wasn't asking for you to pretend to like it. I thought maybe if all the things you like suck then maybe all the things you hate will do really good.

So...thanks!


nah it didn't seem to have much effect after watching Banjo-Kazooie drop like a rock after that board vote against Baldur's Gate II

the list of games I actually dislike that are still left in the contest is pretty short so I'd say so far so good for me!
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GSC is not doing bad here at all. It's already higher than it was against RBY and its going to end significantly higher once the night vote does its work. Melee will end up not far from Majora, just as the GOTD contest would predict.
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Chrono Trigger holy crap. I know DQ8 is weak but it shouldn't be complete fodder should it? It obviously stomps journey. CT is going to the finals.
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The_Ctes posted...
Why are people still using GSC to judge RBY's chances? Not only has gen I proved itself much stronger before, GSC is also doing about what we'd expect. 60-40 in SMB3's favor? Cmon Ulti, there is no way SMB3 would terrorize Melee and it'd need to for that result to be true.

Actually, today's result makes me feel pretty good about RBY. I'll look like an idiot if it loses after how much I've defended it. It's just that most of the arguments people are throwing are really bad.


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LeonhartFour posted...
I kinda doubt it because Super Metroid does have a tendency to look bad whenever it faces Nintendo. CoD4 isn't the barometer test to prove Super Metroid is suddenly now able to handle Nintendo when it couldn't do so in previous contests.


If its CoD4 beatdown were the only evidence so far, I'd agree with you. But you can't ignore what other SNES games, even obviously weaker ones like MMX, are doing this contest.

Super Metroid vs. Galaxy is starting to look like Samus vs. Zelda. Sure, Metroid folds against stronger or comparable Nintendo, but Galaxy ain't comparable, especially not with OldFAQs ruling the day.
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11/20/2015 11:49:25 PM#47
Well, that's what I'm saying. If Super Metroid's going to do it, it's now or never.

If it can't win that match, everyone just has to accept that game will never live up to its reputation.
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11/20/2015 11:52:22 PM#49
Oh hey, and a 15 vote cut at that. Nice work, G/S/C.
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Oh yes, I certainly agree there. If it loses this round, then we can all laugh at how pathetic it is against other Nintendo because that would be a pathetic result at this stage.
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