GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1212
red sox 777 posted... I think historically FFVII has had trouble getting super blowouts commensurate with its super strength. Not really. FFVII has always managed to look pretty good in contest matches because it's been that far above everything else. This year may be different, but I still expect it to thoroughly thump Halo. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Halo went from breaking 40 on Fallout to barely breaking 55 on minecraft. It's gonna get destroyed --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Yeah I guess you could say X/Y performed worse than expected. Mario Maker has just too many things going against it. A new game Modern Mario game Wii U exclusive Not a main-line Mario game. + Awakening is really liked a lot (My favorite 3DS title). Its really kinda pointless to argue for this though. |
Well, if it's not Mario Maker, then it's Xenoblade. Either one works. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
nah, it's definitely Mario Maker |
I
actually don't think that L-Block had a static fanbase. We all thought
it did because it got 29% every round, but I think in hindsight that
might have just been coincidence. It didn't show any evidence of a
static fanbase when it returned in 2008, and while it probably has one
(like every contest entrant), it's probably something like 6%. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
LeonhartFour posted... Also just for fun, every time a "new" game beat an "old" game in round 1: Theres no difference in age between paper mario and tales and a bunch of others. Smash u and pokemon are the only significant ones --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
Yuri_LowelI posted... Theres no difference in age between paper mario and tales and a bunch of others. thanks for that Lowell --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Also why the f*** is destiny in this contest?? The game was almost universally hated last year. Its baffling how s*** games like this can be nominated so much. I expected it to get trippled by starcraft --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
It'll
thoroughly thump Halo regardless, but FFVII usually doesn't put up
world beating performances like Nintendo regularly does until later in
the contest, when it's facing stronger games. When's the last time
FFVII had a performance like OOT on Hearthstone or LTTP on Cave Story?
CATS? Link/Zelda does this regularly, almost every contest. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Holy mother of.. And people thought Starcraft-Destiny is going to be close, jesus --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
When's the last time FFVII had a chance? I mean it had Star Fox 64 and Mario Kart 64 round 1 in 2009 and got shackled with strong Nintendo games the whole way. Cloud and Seph weren't in 2005 or 2006, and they usually didn't get fodder round 1 in multi-ways. Cloud kinda did in 2007, I guess. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif (edited 11/19/2015 10:40:33 PM)report |
2010. Cloud looked horrible relative to Link every round, yet he still pulled his usual 46.5% in the end. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Cloud did not get fodder round 1 in 2010, despite what you may think of Ridley. Neither did Sephiroth. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Cloud's R1 in 2007 is actually in the 90%+ club, if you calculate out the Cloud/Zolomy numbers. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
He still did worse than Crono against Captain Falcon. Hmm....I have a theory, that the board undershot Cloud against Link every year in the Oracle since 2005, based on their earlier matches. Going to check this. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
well of course, Ridley is too big to be fodder *shot* |
Yes, but this isn't about Cloud disappointing on normal entrants. red sox 777 posted... When's the last time FFVII had a performance like OOT on Hearthstone or LTTP on Cave Story? CATS? Link/Zelda does this regularly, almost every contest. That's what this is about, and my point is that FFVII and Cloud and Sephiroth almost never get opponents that are turbo fodder. The closest it's gotten was Journey this year, and 84% on it was pretty good. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
81.41% update for MGS3, what a beast!!! --- Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of man. |
Entrants
of Captain Falcon's strength are also relevant here....if the
hypothesis that FFVII has a small static anti-fanbase is true, it should
perform worst (after extrapolation) against fodder, poorly against weak
midcarders, decently against strong midcarders, good against Noble
Niners/strong games, and best of all against Link/OOT. I mean, I agree the whole static fanbase thing is overrated, but that's not to say it can never ever exist and the anti-FFVII fanbase is as close to a joke fanbase as you'll ever get without an actual joke in the match (it has the same trends even). And I haven't seen a truly impressive FFVII early round match in ages. Cloud's most impressive showings the past few years (including in the 4-ways) have been his direct encounters with Link. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
As for VLR strength that I have seen discussed here I don't think it's much weaker than 999, and people that said "weakest game in the contest" went too far This game was released on Vita as well, which means an increased playrate (and from what I have seen, most VLR players did play it on Vita) I would take it over Hearthstone, honestly Maybe over Destiny too --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
I added the GOTD x-stats to my site, in case anyone wants them. I may actually use them from now on! http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/67 Did anyone ever calculate stats for Rivalry and CB9? Yes, I know no one cares about Rivalry and Draven stats are lol (Jak/Chie beastmode), but still, for the sake of completeness. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
1337gamerpr0 posted... LeonhartFour posted...Turd: Super Mario Maker - Probably emblematic (get it) of how bad newer Mario games have done in these contests in general. I don't get it... >_> red sox 777 posted... It will be smashed, but I think it'll do better than in the x-stats than if it ran directly into OOT. That in turn might be slightly better than if it faced something like CT which then ran into OOT. I think historically FFVII has had trouble getting super blowouts commensurate with its super strength. We don't really have any evidence at all FF7 lacks blowout power, it's had tons of blow outs in the past. Same for Cloud and Sephiroth. I think Halo would look the same if it faced OoT. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Yes, I did. I'd have to dig through the Stats Topics archives to be able to find them if no one else saved them. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
creativename posted... I don't get it... >_> because it faced Fire Emblem --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Um can BioShock beat MGS3? I feel like Silent Hill 2 could beat Mother 3 comfortably. --- Tangy's Quest to beat the Final Fantasies: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XII, XIII |
Mother 3 getting the MILF vote. --- Formerly known as Dilated Chemist |
BetrayedTangy posted... Um can BioShock beat MGS3? I feel like Silent Hill 2 could beat Mother 3 comfortably. No. Silent Hill 2 might beat Mother 3, but it wouldn't be comfortable. BioShock is underperforming about as much as MGS3, actually. BioShock was projected to get nearly 70% here based on GOTD. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif (edited 11/19/2015 11:30:53 PM)report |
The possibility of Destiny being lower than VLR in the X-Stats is beyond hilarious. --- Formerly known as Dilated Chemist |
SwiftyDC posted... The possibility of Destiny being lower than VLR in the X-Stats is beyond hilarious. ME2 would only need 55.55% right now for that to happen. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
red sox 777 posted... Entrants of Captain Falcon's strength are also relevant here....if the hypothesis that FFVII has a small static anti-fanbase is true, it should perform worst (after extrapolation) against fodder, poorly against weak midcarders, decently against strong midcarders, good against Noble Niners/strong games, and best of all against Link/OOT. But the thing is you need some sort of evidence for this - FF7 has been in plenty of matches, after all. You'd think there'd be some evidence and there really isn't. When Cloud was at his peak of early anti-votes, he still crushed CATS worse than Link. Really, FF7's anti-votes have always been concentrated early in a match, and the early votes are a very small percent of the total votes. Now they are a larger percent, but now the anti-votes are vastly weaker. Unless you count being an anti-rally magnet as anti-votes, but that's against opponents that are close to it in strength, not blowouts. FF7 has anti-clutch but has always shown plenty of blowout power. FF7's worst performances are against opponents in range to beat it in a match, where rallies can put them over. LeonhartFour posted... creativename posted...I don't get it... >_> Ahhhh... d'oh --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Just popping in for some reassurance on one little thing... KH2 beating TLoU is essentially a foregone conclusion, right? --- sharp. distance. |
Ex-Kefiroth posted... Just popping in for some reassurance on one little thing... I wouldn't call it a "foregone conclusion." The Last of Us could win, but I think most people expect KH2 to win that. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... Since you all seem to be begging for turds, I'll give them to you! I laughed way too hard at this --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
So Stacraft> ME 2 hype in full force now?? |
POOTERSS posted... So Stacraft> ME 2 hype in full force now?? No But we can discuss if VLR>Destiny is possible --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
creativename posted... _Dog I believe his name was Slowflake. He did a nice analysis on each round, selecting the winners and losers based on expectations and results. Unlike what Leonhart did, I don't believe he selected one star and turd each division, but simply had a list on who did well and who didn't. I have finished my writings on what I feel were winners of this round. I'll write about the losers tomorrow and then post both lists here. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
_Dog posted... creativename posted..._Dog This was before my time by a couple years, but look what I found on Google: http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page2.htm --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
VLR
held up a good bit better than I expected but woah what is that Destiny
%. It can be the poster game for GameFAQs' rejection of new games, and
that's been a highly contested role. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
When Cloud was at his peak of early anti-votes, he still crushed CATS worse than Link. Was Cloud so anti-voted in 2003-5? I don't remember it being so bad- I know in 2003 Cloud was never behind Link for any significant time at the beginning and led by 2000 by morning. In 2005, Cloud surged into the lead something like 2 hours 30 minutes into the match and still ended up losing 52.5-47.5. Sephiroth never trailed against Mario beyond the first few seconds. From 2006 on is when FFVII started finishing at its highest percentage of the day. I mean, granted, there was a big change in 2006, which is that the start times were pushed from 3 AM ET to midnight (and a shift in 2004, when the times were pushed from 1 AM to 3 AM), and that likely explains the trend changes more than anything else. I don't think we have hard evidence that the anti-votes were as bad in 2003-5 though. At any rate, I am.....optimistic about the shift in Gamefaqs voters this year. A lot of the old tropes seem to have died out; I hope the crazy FFVII hate is among them. I would love to see FFVII send a message to OOT by obliterating Halo. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Mother 3! Pretty wild how much of the vote it has considering it never got an official release out of Japan. --- satoru iwata |
That could be why its doing ok. As in its one of those games that's an exception to common theories. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. http://i.minus.com/iN5ZHjUDyI547.gif |
SwiftyDC posted... The possibility of Destiny being lower than VLR in the X-Stats is beyond hilarious. not really. I cant think of many games in this whole contest where the original game got such medicore critical and fan reception. Yes it has high playrate but im baffled as to how this turd got into this contest. 999 and last reward would straight up beat destiny. Its got to be a candidate for the weakest game in the whole bracket surely? --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
Kotetsu534 posted... VLR held up a good bit better than I expected but woah what is that Destiny %. It can be the poster game for GameFAQs' rejection of new games, and that's been a highly contested role. Except all of those other games have some respect and critical reception factor. Destiny was painfully average when it came out. If we had a contest of new games only it would be fodder in that contest too --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
Is Melee still the favourite tomorrow? --- Started from the bottom now we here |
haloiscoolisbak posted... Is Melee still the favourite tomorrow? Yep. Tomorrow should be pretty straightforward. TLOU > KHII is the only seemingly possible upset and even that's a real longshot. |
ME2 really laid an egg here, it could still conceivably win next round, but I'm not just liking its chances. --- Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of man. (edited 11/20/2015 2:46:08 AM)report |
so we're just assuming only RBY gets rallied? and GSC just kinda gets forgotten about? It performed pretty well in Round 1 Not that I'm angry mind you I have Melee > CT in the division final lol --- Started from the bottom now we here |
Persona 4 > ME2 hype. --- Any sound can shake the air. My voice shakes the heart! -Sho Minamimoto |
I just checked the results. This is what I have to say: 1st match=Mother 3 is doing all right against the best MGS game. MGS 3 is considered the best, right? 2nd match=Silent Hill 2 above 40%...That is okay for me! 3rd match=Man I didn't expected that. I mean it is a new game versus an old game but still! 4th match=Mass Effect 2 is among the 3 top Western games so it is doing very nice. Nintendo/FF/old/faqs man for Round 1! --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? |
