MGS3 would need, what kind of performance to make people consider putting it in the semis? Tripling Mother 3?

e: I use a tripling as the benchmark because that's what Metroid Prime was projected to get on it roughly in GOTD and I know it'd be getting argued to the semis if it was in this division, also I figure Mother 3 has gotten stronger as its emulation has become more widespread.
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MGS3 was already projected to triple Mother 3 back in 2010, and Mother 3 is overrated in those stats thanks to being in Prime's division.
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Karma Hunter posted...
MGS3 would need, what kind of performance to make people consider putting it in the semis? Tripling Mother 3?

e: I use a tripling as the benchmark because that's what Metroid Prime was projected to get on it roughly in GOTD and I know it'd be getting argued to the semis if it was in this division, also I figure Mother 3 has gotten stronger as its emulation has become more widespread.


IT's hard to tell either way. Unless it gets something ridiclous like 85% + you can't say anything at this point
I wrote about this for the crew, but I wouldn't take any faith in any result unless it's just horrible (like worse than dmc3)
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transcience posted...
I wrote about this for the crew, but I wouldn't take any faith in any result unless it's just horrible (like worse than dmc3)


I would consider that more awesome than horrible
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well for future picks. no one picked mother 3.
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The thing about Mother 3 is that it has a dedicated enough fanbase that it will probably be hard to really blow out. So if Metal Gear Solid 3 get an unimpressive score like something around 70 it'll have that excuse.

But to look like it can beat MGS1? It'd would need to score pretty high. Several percent above whatever MGS1 ends up getting on Earthbound, anyway.
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I feel like MGS3 probably gets 70% or so. Mother 3 is probably a bit stronger than it was before.
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-70% - Mass Effect 2 wins
70-80% - Seems normal
+80% - Better watch out MGS.
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Points 50/56
KamikazePotato posted...
I feel like MGS3 probably gets 70% or so. Mother 3 is probably a bit stronger than it was before.


Yeah I expect that's about what it'll get.

Meanwhile, what percentage does Mass Effect 2 need to get on VLR to look impressive? I mean it can get almost 80 and look about as strong as Persona 4.
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VLR is my pick for weakest game. ME2 could break 90% and still lose to MGS3.
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KamikazePotato posted...
I feel like MGS3 probably gets 70% or so. Mother 3 is probably a bit stronger than it was before.


Mother 3 being a bit stronger than before would probably just cancel out its overratedness.

70% would be kinda bad, I think. I don't really take this EB performance to say much about the series in general. 2012 games just suck.
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Evillordexdeath posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
I feel like MGS3 probably gets 70% or so. Mother 3 is probably a bit stronger than it was before.


Yeah I expect that's about what it'll get.

Meanwhile, what percentage does Mass Effect 2 need to get on VLR to look impressive? I mean it can get almost 80 and look about as strong as Persona 4.


Statistically speaking, VLR would be weaker than 999, but I doubt there's a strength disparity between the two. It's not like the first game would get "respect votes", like how the first Phoenix Wright is stronger than T&T. They're probably about the same.

But really, anything less than 80% would be a disappointment.
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VLR is my pick for weakest game. ME2 could break 90% and still lose to MGS3.


Dont be silly. 90% is oot level.
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1337gamerpr0 posted...
random hypothetical: how much does SMW put up on NSMB DS/Wii/3DS/Wii U put together?


Depends, is Undertale in the adjacent match?
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1337gamerpr0 posted...
random hypothetical: how much does SMW put up on NSMB DS/Wii/3DS/Wii U put together?


1337gamerpr0 posted...
random hypothetical: how much does SMW put up on NSMB DS/Wii/3DS/Wii U put together?


What do you mean put together? Silly question. It would quadruple all of those games individually
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
What do you mean put together? Silly question. It would quadruple all of those games individually


as in those 5 games are put in a single 5-way poll (no other polls going on simultaneously)

pjbasis posted...
Depends, is Undertale in the adjacent match?


lol
ME2 is breaking 80 on VLR for sure. Hoping it can get around 85 since I have it beating MGS
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
charmander6000 posted...
VLR is my pick for weakest game. ME2 could break 90% and still lose to MGS3.


Dont be silly. 90% is oot level.


Dumb argument. Solid Snake broke 94% on an opponent - in a year where he was arguably not even a Top Ten character. With a theoretically weak enough draw, Mass Effect 2 could break 90%.

I don't think VLR's that weak, but we'll see...!
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I'd certainly dispute the proposition myself but arguing the relative contest strength a character held in a contest that happened more than 10 years ago where most of the extrapolation was half unusable due to the massive SFF seems marginally less worthwhile than me just making a typical post in the Contest Stats and Discussion topic Part 1211.
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SC2K4 what a contest

Squall still holds the largest 1-on-1 margin of victory against Kirby ever
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....and Snake still holds the largest 1-on-1 margin of victory against Squall too.
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Today is making me want to play Earthbound (I've never played for more than like 20 minutes of it) more than ever. The problem is that I don't believe in illegal emulation, so that method is out.... so I either have to fork over $100 for the cartridge or buy a Wii U..... neither I'm willing to do right now as I have school debts to pay off still....

Wow, my prediction for EB vs. BL was horribly off. It seems whenever I make a prediction about anything the day before the match in CS&D I will always be wrong. At least I'm #5 in the Oracle (as of yesterday), hrhr.

How weak could Borderlands 2 be? I wouldn't be surprised if Earthbound got the biggest boost of any old game...
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Well it doesn't help that the only usable data from Earthbound in a contest is its 2004 match against Doom.

I mean I guess you have Ness's performances but it's not really the same thing
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ROUND 1 – DAY 16 – BOTTOM OF DIVISION 8

Match LXI: (3) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater vs. (14) Mother 3

Previous Performance

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater – 2010
76.85% against TimeSplitters 2
63.85% against Marvel vs. Capcom 2
57.49% against Paper Mario
50.62% against Shadow of the Colossus
42.30% against The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask

Mother 3 – 2010
35.14% against Devil May Cry 3

Analysis

We have reached the final day of the first round. Mother 3 did quite well in 2010 for a Japanese only release, though to be fair their hardcore fans have gone out of their way to translate and distribute copies of the game. While it wasn’t the weakest game in the bracket the game still doesn’t have much strength.

Metal Gear Solid 3 is much stronger than Devil May Cry 3 and while some people are down on the series I feel that is a bit unwarranted. MGS2 did as expected against Resident Evil and while MGS had a bad start it too got to what was needed to be respectable. There is some discussion that MGS3 is the strongest game of the series, I think it will be close, but the game will have three rounds to prove itself before its showdown against Metal Gear Solid.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Metal Gear Solid 3 > Mother 3

charmander6000’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 3 wins, 74.67% - 25.33%



Match LXII: (6) BioShock vs. (11) Silent Hill 2

Previous Performance

BioShock – 2010
68.91% against Star Wars: Battlefront II
43.73% against Kingdom Hearts II

Silent Hill 2 – 2010
36.43% against Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

Analysis

While I feel BioShock should still win I feel it could be on a path to having an underperformance. The game looked pretty good in 2010, but the series hasn’t been able to establish itself on GameFAQs since then. BioShock Infinite did okay earlier this round, but we don’t know the strength of Fallout: New Vegas

Silent Hill has done well to get its characters and games into the contest, especially after we expanded to 128, but it has never shown to be more than fodder. Even if BioShock is weaker now it would have to be quite the drop to lose since the game was stronger than Vice City back in 2010. If BioShock has remained the same strength it should be breaking 70% here.

charmander6000’s Bracket: BioShock > Silent Hill 2

charmander6000’s Prediction: BioShock wins, 66.63% - 33.37%
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Match LXIII: (7) Starcraft vs. (10) Destiny

Previous Performance

Starcraft – 2009
27.89% against Final Fantasy VIII, Soul Calibur, Xenogears
16.63% against LoZ: Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX

Destiny – N/A
N/A

Analysis

While most people here have Starcraft there is some fear that Destiny could have strength. While the game was a flop relative to expectations it does have quite the community now, especially after the release of the expansion pack. However, it is a new game on a site that doesn’t take too kindly to new games.

After its crazy antics in 2004 the Starcraft horribly flopped in 2009 and with Final Fantasy VIII performing poorly earlier this round questions have arisen on its strength. Starcraft II’s third part has been recently released so it might help the game. Honestly I still equate Starcraft to around Diablo II’s strength and if it holds true then it shouldn’t have any problem winning here.

While Destiny is a type of game for rally potential I just don’t see it happening. While there is a chance much more often than not fanbases are not able to rally the troops to push a game to win on another website.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Starcraft > Destiny

charmander6000’s Prediction: Starcraft wins, 62.57% - 37.43%



Match LXIV: (2) Mass Effect 2 vs. (15) Zero Escape: Virtue’s Last Reward

Previous Performance

Mass Effect 2 – N/A
N/A

Zero Escape: Virtue’s Last Reward – N/A
N/A

Analysis

Along with Skyrim there are high expectations that Mass Effect 2 will have strength. I don’t see Skyrim as a world beater after round 1, but that was my expectation from the start. There’s some mild hype about Mass Effect 2 defeating Metal Gear Solid 3 and while I don’t see it, it does have a couple of rounds to look impressive.

Virtue’s Last Reward has been in conversation of being the weakest entrant of the bracket. After the performance by 999 I am incline to agree. Some people have argued some weird type of SFF between Persona 4 and 999 saying both games attract the same fanbase and while it could be true I don’t think it subtracts the fact that this game will be in contention for weakest game.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Mass Effect 2 > Zero Escape: Virtue’s Last Reward

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mass Effect 2 wins, 83.36% - 16.64%
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Points 50/56
1337gamerpr0 posted...
random hypothetical: how much does SMW put up on NSMB DS/Wii/3DS/Wii U put together?

Exactly 50% according to this:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/53?input_values=50%0D%0A20%0D%0A20%0D%0A20%0D%0A20

46.11% according to this:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/48?input_values=50%0D%0A20%0D%0A20%0D%0A20%0D%0A20
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11/19/2015 8:56:50 PM#431
creativename posted...
Btw, how did Smurf get the sticky anyway? I only have a vague memory of it being a very funny Jedi mind trick.


Someone here made the rally topic for Draven on the LoL Subreddit. It was fairly neutral for a rally topic and was gaining upvotes so it looked like it would become the main rally topic. Due to their subreddit rules, they delete duplicate rally topics.

At the same time, users in this topic were discussion ways to sabotage the rally. One of the proposed ideas was to delete the rally topic when it started to gain steam. Smurf (I think it was him? People called him Smurf at least) claimed that he was the person who made the current rally topic and would delete it. A LoL mod saw the post and decided to step in. They deleted the current rally thread and replaced it with a more typical rally post and sticked it. They then came in to tell us we brought this on ourselves. The problem was, Smurf lied. He never made the topic and thus could never do what he said he would do.

I don't Smurf planned that result since there was no way he could predict the mod would act like that. However, the end result was he tricked the mod into taking actions to completely bury Snake. You may think it was funny, but Snake fans probably weren't very amused. >_>
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TF2 would need to put up 61.68% on Splatoon for MGS1=SOTC
57.62% for EarthBound

casuals got us
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
creativename posted...
Btw, how did Smurf get the sticky anyway? I only have a vague memory of it being a very funny Jedi mind trick.


Someone here made the rally topic for Draven on the LoL Subreddit. It was fairly neutral for a rally topic and was gaining upvotes so it looked like it would become the main rally topic. Due to their subreddit rules, they delete duplicate rally topics.

At the same time, users in this topic were discussion ways to sabotage the rally. One of the proposed ideas was to delete the rally topic when it started to gain steam. Smurf (I think it was him? People called him Smurf at least) claimed that he was the person who made the current rally topic and would delete it. A LoL mod saw the post and decided to step in. They deleted the current rally thread and replaced it with a more typical rally post and sticked it. They then came in to tell us we brought this on ourselves. The problem was, Smurf lied. He never made the topic and thus could never do what he said he would do.

I don't Smurf planned that result since there was no way he could predict the mod would act like that. However, the end result was he tricked the mod into taking actions to completely bury Snake. You may think it was funny, but Snake fans probably weren't very amused. >_>

Hmm. That's more sad than funny (not that it isn't funny too, lol reddit). Also a very strange lie from Smurf, I wonder why he said that. Maybe just to make people fear something he thought wouldn't actually happen?
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My entire bracket hinges on ME2 kicking total ass here.
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Oh yea, I guess raytan won.
lol Destiny
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Points 53/60
Smurf basically tried to troll rallies the entire contest.
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Destiny what are you doing
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so uhhh Destiny vs. Virtue's Last Reward who ya got

FFVIII suddenly legit again
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LOL Destiny SUUUUCKS
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nothing surprising here today really. Destiny bombing super hard was always really possible.
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and augh MGS3 why can't you ever impress when you get the chance

although based on yesterday MGS3 probably goes up like 10% from here
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This is like turbofodder territory here
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Starcraft finally getting some catharsis for Vincent/Kerrigan 10 years ago
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11/19/2015 9:04:29 PM#447
15 people fell off the Top 50. Camden, XzMaSaMuNezX, LeonhartFour, Mac_Arrowny, Kotetsu534, Pizzaknight, DarthStarkiller, Mr_Lasastryke, cyko, creativename, InvisibleOmega, Rahvinn, capefeather, Eikei and ctesjbuvf had at least one of MGS, Earthbound, SotC or RDR losing.

16 people got one wrong and survived. Former second place tyder21, former third place taub0017, WhiteLens, LinkMarioSamus, TsunamiXXVIII, TyranoTom, Kenri, playHanabi, ToadYoshi, Arctic_Cress, transcience, cleansedbyfire2, FearlessMango, sorer102, most_games_r_ok and fool4life scored 3 points but are still on the Top 50.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
15 people fell off the Top 50. Camden, XzMaSaMuNezX, LeonhartFour


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Also would be surprised at the lack of commentary on MGS3 but I figure after yesterday people expect it to jump up a lot from the freeze.

...MGS jumped up more than 5% yesterday augh when did it become FF7
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well, it's mother 3. that game is going to shine early.

same with VLR
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