GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1211
I'm
guessing Splatoon isn't THAT weak. I mean I'm sure it would still lose
to anything with real strength, but I don't think things look bad for
MGS. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Wii-U
or not, all well-received Nintendo games should have decent base
strength. Mario Maker only lost horribly because the Nintendo fanbase
decided to flock to a more superior Nintendo game. Just look at Earthbound, it's absolutely laying waste to Borderlands 2 here, the same BL2 that won the 2012 GOTY. MGS looks pretty good imo, 79-80% against a fairly known Nintendo game is no joke. --- Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of man. |
Earthbound's pulling a Mario RPG here --- xyzzy |
In the previous topic I said that I expect the winner of BL2-Earthbound to 60-40 the other, glad to see I was right! (But I also said the Splatoon deserves more credit than just 20%, oh...that was wrong) I know it was said many times that GOTY polls has nothing to do with contest..it was proven many times.. But did someone ever explain why? Why the same people that vote in POTY polls don't vote in contests as well? or do they change their opinion? or what happens? --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
They
obviously change their opinions with time. I haven't heard Borderlands 2
mentioned since its first year pretty much anywhere. The multi-entrant
nature of the GOTY polls also heavily changes the results, and winning
GOTY on a site that might not care about that particular year isn't
worth much. |
There are a few factors that might make GOTY polls less useful: - In GOTY polls, games only compete with other games from that year. Even if a game dominates then, you don't know if it's because it's very strong or because all of its competition is weak. - Polls usually have several entrants and lots of SFF (since the games all come from the same year they likely all share players), which can distort results. - Voters might view "Game Of The Year" different to "which game is the best", especially if they haven't played many of the entrants, and vote for something hyped/big/acclaimed like Skyrim or MGS4 but never think about voting for it in a contest years down the line. - Games are usually near their peak relevance/popularity close to their release - you don't know how quickly, or if at all, they will lose relevance to the voterbase and decline. I expect, for example, that The Last of Us has stayed in GameFAQs' collective mind more than Borderlands 2. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
LFF is also an issue with the GotY polls, such as the first poll listed below: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5382- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5383- In the first poll, Nintendo LFF from the presence of Super Mario 3D World prevents the Zelda game from winning the poll and even loses to GTAV (which has its anti-votes diluted in the large multi-way poll format). In the second poll, Zelda no longer has LFF to worry about, but the other 2 games could have possibly LFFed each other due to their appeal to the same audience by virtue of being Mature games. Another issue with GotY polls is that they favor games released closer to the end of the year since they would still maintain their relevance when the polls start. Most GotY winners have been games from October/November, with very few winners before October. Although in today's world, a lot of the big mainstream games are typically released closer to the end of the year to take advantage of increased holiday spending from Black Friday (in the US) and Christmas. Brawl and Wind Waker are examples of GotY winners that were released early in the year (both March releases). --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
So
with Earthbound crushing its opponent today, it seems like FFVIII is
the only pre-PS2 console game in the entire bracket that really
disappointed. Kinda weird. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Everyone knows that is because FFVIII is clearly the worst Final Fantasy. --- Yay - Raytan is the guru champion of awesomeness. |
I think what's helping Splatoon is how strong it's board is rn. It has a solid amount of users on it compared to other boards. --- Tangy's Quest to beat the Final Fantasies: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XII, XIII |
It's
a bit weird, especially after FFIX defeated Kingdom Hearts. Maybe
Kingdom Hearts is weaker (if true, lol MGS4) or maybe GTA really does
have strength, I can believe Shovel Knight having strength, it is an ode
to old games. GTAV just suffers from being a new game. --- BGE3: Today's Matches MGS>Splatoon, Borderlands 2>Earthbound, SotC>TF2, RDR>Bayonetta 2 Points 50/56 |
I think what's helping Splatoon is how strong it's board is rn. It has a solid amount of users on it compared to other boards. If that's helping I shudder to what not helping will look like --- BGE3: Today's Matches MGS>Splatoon, Borderlands 2>Earthbound, SotC>TF2, RDR>Bayonetta 2 Points 50/56 |
RE4's
performance lost me most of my faith in my Mario RPG upset, but
Earthbound has regained me some hope here. These SNES games came to
throw down. Also feeling more confident about Sonic versus Uncharted. All irrelevant, though, given how bad MGS is doing. It's easily been the most disappointing series so far. --- http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif |
Now all that's left is for MGS3 to embarass against a japan-only game and the cycle of mediocrity will be complete. |
I don't think MGS is doing poorly. MGSV was mediocre and expected to be weak Mgs4 has lost steam over the years and is as expected Mgs2 has always been the weakest of the main trilogy and did well against a classic respected game Mgs1 might end up over 80% here against a game with a decent Nintendo fanbase. I still expect it to reach OOT as RE4 didn't overperform. Unless mass effect 2 boosted big time which is a possibility but I doubt it. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
wait a sec. you -- you -- took Mario RPG over Resident Evil freaking 4? I'm disappointed. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
anyway, let's update our List: Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 91% on Hearthstone Zelda: Link to the Past - 88% on Cave Story Chrono Trigger - 86% on Ratchet and Clank 3 Mario 3 - 84% on AOE2 Mario World - 84% on Animal Crossing (pre-Undertale rally) Final Fantasy VII - 84% on Journey Fallout 3 - 81% on Life is Strange (pre-Undertale rally) Mario 64 - 80% on Mario Kart 8 Metal Gear Solid - 79% on Splatoon Super Metroid - 79% on Call of Duty 4 Smash 4 - 79% on Planescape: Torment Pokemon GSC - 77% on TWEWY Final Fantasy VI - 77% on Assassin's Creed 2 Zelda: Majora's Mask - 76% on Valkyria Chronicles Symphony of the Night - 75% on Phoenix Wright 3 Zelda: Wind Waker - 73% on Pokemon X/Y Zelda: Twilight Princess - 72% on Skies of Arcadia Pokemon RBY - 68% on Tetris Super Smash Bros Melee - 68% on Portal Skyrim - 67% on Phoenix Wright (possibly skewed due to aftereffects of rally) Super Mario Galaxy - 64% on Dragon Age: Origins Final Fantasy X - 64% on Half-Life Half-Life 2 - 64% on Demon's Souls Metroid Prime - 63% on Morrowind Kingdom Hearts 2 - 59% on MGS4 Resident Evil 4 - 59% on Paper Mario Final Fantasy VIII - 58% on GTA: Vice City (pre-Undertale rally) Goldeneye 007 - 56% on Diablo 2 Super Mario RPG - 54% on Oblivion Final Fantasy IX - 51% on Kingdom Hearts --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
BTW
I'm not buying any SOTC strength at all. TF2 is just more evidence of a
move away from FPS strength on this site overall. It's also lost a ton
of relevance since its heyday. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
TF2
is probably weaker than it was in GotD, but not by enough that this
isn't a strong showing from SotC. It might not be on the same level as
MGS or RE4 like some people are saying, but it's definitely not too far
behind them. Splatoon being weaker than TF2 by enough for SotC to be around MGS' level isn't much of a stretch based on today. I'f be really surprised if MGS got more than 55% on Shadow of the Colossus. 45% on MGS is legit. --- Any sound can shake the air. My voice shakes the heart! -Sho Minamimoto |
Shadow
of the Colossus's base strength was enough to beat MGS2 and MGS4 in
2010. Regardless of what you think of them now, that's legit strength. Also MGS1 is doing fine now. Nearly a quadrupling is pretty good, I think. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Why
are everyone so confident about MGS > MGS3? I took MGS3 without
thinking a second but I really want MGS to win because it's MUUUUUUUCH
better. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Raytan > Me |
I wish we could get SOTC away from MGS, as nice as the Mario/Crono-esque rivalry is. think of the fun matches we could have. FF8? Okami? Tetris? Mega Man X? --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
I'm
really not disappointed at all by MGS1 here. I get that the Wii U has a
stigma and all that, but nobody freaked out when Super Mario 64 did
only slightly better than this on Mario Kart 8, you know? A quadrupling is a quadrupling, and it's not like Splatoon has any reason to be "999"-level weak. The SotC upset isn't impossible, but MGS should still be considered the favorite by a comfortable margin. --- JAK The Character Battle IX people's champ. (edited 11/19/2015 9:06:41 AM)report |
yeah
that's a fair way it looking at it. MK8 is a well-liked main franchise
game. Mario Maker is a lot smaller than MK8 and Splatoon doesn't have
the name value. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
transcience posted... I wish we could get SOTC away from MGS, as nice as the Mario/Crono-esque rivalry is. SoTC vs Okami would be awesome. SotC would probably win but I would love to see it --- http://i.imgur.com/CQVaT6Xl.jpg |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4960-best-of-2012-game-of-the-year Today we're seeing the last of 2012's heavy-hitters in this contest, and tomorrow we're seeing the last 2012-rep with Virtue's Last Reward. They've all looked weak and lost their matches...only ME3 was looking to win its match, but then its chance got Tumblr'd. Still, any chance this hierarchy changed? I'd take Xenoblade > BL2 now. ME1 and ME2 are gonna be respectable games, but ME3 couldn't double Undertale pre-rally and still has that stigma...yet that might still be enough to compete for winning 2012 again. Wouldn't trust TWD though, to the point where Sonic 2 is the likely favorite over Uncharted 2. Just a bad year for GameFAQs's taste. --- M E N: nominate Metal Man in 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4213-best-of-2010-best-multi-platform-game-final this one's next on my hit list. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Seriously, f*** that GotY poll. It's the only reason why any of us took Borderlands 2 over Earthbound. I am so disappointed in myself for not taking Earthbound more seriously. --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens | http://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ |
Yeah, f*** that GotY-poll -- we should have listened to the GotG-poll instead! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4962-best-of-2012-game-of-the-generation-2006-2012 We knew for awhile 2012 was weak, but it got some rough match-ups and we didn't know how weak they would all be. --- M E N: nominate Metal Man in 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png |
HaRRicH posted... Yeah, f*** that GotY-poll -- we should have listened to the GotG-poll instead! I wouldn't listen to that poll either, at least not at face value. I'd take Twilight Princess, Brawl, and Mario Galaxy to beat Skyrim. Those games all just SFFed the f*** out of each other. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
Apart
from that GotG poll possibly being unreliable when it comes to the
Nintendo games, that poll showed Borderlands 2 getting almost quadrupled
by Skyrim. And I know there's a lot of Nintendo LFF in that poll,
which is why Skyrim probably loses to at least one of the Nintendo
games. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
-Zelmor- posted... Wii-U or not, all well-received Nintendo games should have decent base strength. Mario Maker only lost horribly because the Nintendo fanbase decided to flock to a more superior Nintendo game. Sorry but on what f***ing planet is splatoon a fairly well known nintendo game?? It's a wii u only multiplayer game played by wii u fanboys who can't play real multiplayer games Id say mgs is disappointing Here. It should be winning by more. You cannot equate splatoon to the likes of earthbound. Was mario party popular? Sure it sold millions but not on gamefaqs. Splatoon is fodder. --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
MechanicalWall posted... HaRRicH posted...Yeah, f*** that GotY-poll -- we should have listened to the GotG-poll instead! I wouldn't take brawl to beat anything now. Game is a forgotten piece of turd. Back in the garbage bit where it belongs. --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
the big thing to take from that poll is ME2's gap from Skyrim. is anyone calling SFF there? --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Yuri_LowelI posted... -Zelmor- posted...Wii-U or not, all well-received Nintendo games should have decent base strength. Mario Maker only lost horribly because the Nintendo fanbase decided to flock to a more superior Nintendo game. Black Turtle is already using the "make fun of people for liking certain games" gimmick. If you're gonna make yourself sound stupid at least be creative. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Yuri_LowelI posted... -Zelmor- posted...Wii-U or not, all well-received Nintendo games should have decent base strength. Mario Maker only lost horribly because the Nintendo fanbase decided to flock to a more superior Nintendo game. Wow you have a problem. Letting your own personal judgment of a game cloud your thinking will not lead to good predictions. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
^^"I hate Splatoon and Brawl so I think they're completely fodder because I speak for everyone and I say both games SUCKK!!!" I'm sorry, but shut up. Brawl isn't fodder, and MGS is doing impressive. -Zelmor- posted... Wii-U or not, all well-received Nintendo games should have decent base strength. Mario Maker only lost horribly because the Nintendo fanbase decided to flock to a more superior Nintendo game. No way is a quality platformer game worse than waifu-pandering weeb trash. In any case, we'll have to see whether or not that weeb trash turns out to have any actual strength in this contest. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. (edited 11/19/2015 10:52:13 AM)report |
_Dog posted... No way is a quality platformer game worse than waifu-pandering weeb trash I'd rather have waifu pandering than have a game that basically requires you to go online and research to get actual good levels --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes (edited 11/19/2015 10:54:57 AM)report |
LeonhartFour posted... Shadow of the Colossus's base strength was enough to beat MGS2 and MGS4 in 2010. Regardless of what you think of them now, that's legit strength. Oh yeah, I'm not saying SOTC is fodder. Just that we shouldn't be too worried about an upset based on these results. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
transcience posted... the big thing to take from that poll is ME2's gap from Skyrim. is anyone calling SFF there? I definitely think there's SFF. Skyrim was fresher in people's minds also, and ME3 came out the same year. Might've made people sick off the ME series that year. I don't think ME3's negative reception means much anymore now, however. It was getting 65% on Undertale, which could be stronger than we think even without the tumblr rally. Plus I feel like ME2 is more of a "GameFAQs" game because of it's bigger emphasis on story than Skyrim. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
NowItsAngeTime posted... _Dog posted...No way is a quality platformer game worse than waifu-pandering weeb trash I'm so sorry. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
Fire Emblem is a good series but it didn't need fan service. Mario Maker has a lot of potential but most people aren't dedicated enough to make non-gimmick levels. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
The game is winning by almost 80% and people want more? Man. --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? |
Man,
the user tagging feature is much better than ignore. I can tag people
like Yuri, look at their tag, laugh and remember to take their analyses
with a huge grain of salt rather than not see them at all. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
yeah, there was something to it when it was fighting for 70%. this is just people bored and waiting for the next round. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Think we've talked about MGS vs. SotC enough. What I'm wondering is whether Red Dead Redemption's performance is being considered an overperformance or an underperformance for people. I know Bayonetta has a good core following on GFaqs, but I feel RDR should be doing better than this. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
Splatoon
was a darling on the boards and places like reddit for being a unique
take on shooters. Don't discount its popularity especially since it is
still fresh in people's minds. It also does not suffer at all with overlap with the mgs fanbase. These are very distinct types of games from different consoles. It won't suffer from a hierarchy problem as much as other games would with mgs. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
transcience posted... nice recovery by mgs. not totally unexpected but the match was always about how good SOTC was doing in comparison. After our discussion earlier, this stance is harder to defend than ever. Red's chart pretty much killed the idea of extra rally power for Draven (sans sticky), good work by him. Draven was clearly getting rallied hard at the end. And these weren't optional votes, he needed them and without the late rally he could have lost. Despite this he still handily lost hour 23 to Link. Draven's non-sticky rally power was pretty much maxed out from all appearances. Zylothewolf posted... Why are everyone so confident about MGS > MGS3? I took MGS3 without thinking a second but I really want MGS to win because it's MUUUUUUUCH better. 1) MGS seemed to do better in BGE 2K9 than MGS3 in GOTD 2) MGS is a 90's game Think those are the main reasons I'd say, along with MGS probably being the favorite even if we didn't have any contest data, due to being perceived as the franchise's best. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
MechanicalWall posted... a MechanicalWall posted... Think we've talked about MGS vs. SotC enough. Yeah I think rdr is doing quite poorly if you ask me. But I'm sure bayonneta 1 fans are voting for 2 in this poll even if they haven't had a chance to play it. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Btw, how did Smurf get the sticky anyway? I only have a vague memory of it being a very funny Jedi mind trick. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
