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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1211
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Better try a new trick cuz that one's getting OLD --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes |
Where'd everybody go? Bingo? --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Can't remember the name. A senior moment, perhaps? --- Any sound can shake the air. My voice shakes the heart! -Sho Minamimoto |
No thanks BRO --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes |
I see you have an eye for things, guns's not just 'bout shootin', it's 'bout reloadin'. You'll know what I'm talkin' 'bout. --- Communists |
Where is the satisfying sound of one's own impalement? --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
Soon, you will become unable to resist this... intoxicating power... |
Sounds like an alien invasion if you ask me. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Hasta luego. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
How about we do some "overtime"? --- Play Earthbound And Dragon Warrior(Quest) 7 |
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIlKE! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Is that all, stranger? --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Well... I see that the President equipped his daughter with ballistics, too! --- Communists |
Which result has a higher chance of occuring next round? Mega Man X > Final Fantasy X or Pokemon GSC > Melee? I think both results are going to be very close. I'd say... MMX>FFX has a higher chance of happening, around 22%. GSC>Melee, 19% chance of happening. FFX>MMX with 51.9% and Melee>GSC with 52.4% would be what I expect though. |
Definitely GSC > Melee. MMX is not that strong --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
FFX > MMX with 63%, SSBM > GSC WITH 72% --- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks. In other news, Valve is a pretty f***ing terrible company, let's be honest. |
GSC is more probable I guess because we did at least see POKEFEAR once upon a time. I wouldn't count on it --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
MMX > FFX isn't happening in a billion years. --- Video game companies don't care about you, so stop kissing their asses |
Melee with 54%, FFX with 57%. |
Melee/GSC should be close unless SFF is involved. FFX should have no problem breaking 60% IMO. --- BGE3: Today's Matches Witcher 3>BoI:R, MGS2>RE, Fallout:NV>BS:I, RE4>PM Points 46/52 |
I fully expect Melee to jump out to like 60% or more and then fall for most of the day |
Neither is likely, but GSC is more likely because Pokémon. Though I'm not really sure what to think about GSC. It did better on Majora's Mask in 2009 while sharing a poll with RBY than it did in a 1v1 in 2010. I know lol 4ways, but that's inexplicable. Wild theories as to why that happened: 1. Despite getting the nostalgia vote and being by far the strongest, RBY actually gets rSFFed by later generations, as longtime fans recognize that the early games were kind of a mess and Game Freak didn't really get the hang of things until about Gen III. Therefore, GSC actually overperformed in 2009 because of RBY. Chances that this theory is true: Pretty much zero. 2. Continuing the "fans recognize the flaws of the early games" theory, consider that the 2009 match was pre-HGSS, which as we all know came out during CBVIII (sorry, Bowser). Could the improved remakes have actually weakened the originals? Chances that this theory is true: Better than the last one, but still unlikely. That's all I've got, though. --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle (edited 11/18/2015 2:45:13 PM)report |
MechanicalWall posted... MMX > FFX isn't happening in a billion years. Majoras Max already beat FFX's ass. |
It beat it barely because of a rally! Nah I know the match I was there at the end...But I don't think MM X is that strong right? --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? |
well if FFX would have gone on to beat Brawl then fair enough. Otherwise it deserved to get beat. |
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if we just go with there not being really any SFF in the RBY/GSC/MM
triumverate and GSC just dropped from 2009 to 2010. Games rise and fall all the time, this wouldn't exactly be earth-shattering! I mean, if you don't just posit lol fourways, which you should have been doing all along. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
operation shadow? aww yeah Allen believes --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Karma Hunter posted... What if we just go with there not being really any SFF in the RBY/GSC/MM triumverate and GSC just dropped from 2009 to 2010. Games rise and fall all the time, this wouldn't exactly be earth-shattering! Well, yeah, lol 4ways is about the only thing that makes sense. I mean, seriously, no SFF in a match with two mainline Pokémon games? Not buying it. The more I think about it, rSFF actually sounds possible. RBY probably crushes all the other Pokémon games in playrate, so if you assume that fans who stuck with the series prefer the newer games but the older games have much larger playrates, you could actually consider the possibility that RBY would underperform when faced with another Pokémon game! --- FC 5026-4424-6331 -- Native Vivillon type: Polar Still need Marine, Sun, Icy Snow, Monsoon, River, and Jungle |
The effect of having no SFF relative to one another doesn't mean that SFF didn't have an effect. Obviously, Metal Gear Solid is not worth 56% on RBY in 2009. And it certainly doesn't mean that since there's no relative SFF between RBY/GSC/MM, that it must be rSFF. Sometimes games can't score significant SFF, especially on comparatively strong entries! Melee/Brawl, KH1/KH2, Majora's Mask/Wind Waker, the list goes on. GSC isn't some pushover that RBY gets to manhandle just because it's stronger. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... What if we just go with there not being really any SFF in the RBY/GSC/MM triumverate and GSC just dropped from 2009 to 2010. Games rise and fall all the time, this wouldn't exactly be earth-shattering! If you assume no LFF or SFF, GSC didn't need to drop at all. GSC did about the same relative to MM in 2009 and 2010. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
alright guys let's try making a top 20. it's a slow couple of days and we have data back on most contenders. here's our contest results thus far. obviously, you don't have to take them into consideration. not included yet: Metal Gear Solid 1 or 3. Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 91% on Hearthstone Zelda: Link to the Past - 88% on Cave Story Chrono Trigger - 86% on Ratchet and Clank 3 Mario 3 - 84% on AOE2 Mario World - 84% on Animal Crossing (pre-Undertale rally) Final Fantasy VII - 84% on Journey Fallout 3 - 81% on Life is Strange (pre-Undertale rally) Mario 64 - 80% on Mario Kart 8 Super Metroid - 79% on Call of Duty 4 Smash 4 - 79% on Planescape: Torment Pokemon GSC - 77% on TWEWY Final Fantasy VI - 77% on Assassin's Creed 2 Zelda: Majora's Mask - 76% on Valkyria Chronicles Symphony of the Night - 75% on Phoenix Wright 3 Zelda: Wind Waker - 73% on Pokemon X/Y Zelda: Twilight Princess - 72% on Skies of Arcadia Pokemon RBY - 68% on Tetris Super Smash Bros Melee - 68% on Portal Skyrim - 67% on Phoenix Wright (possibly skewed due to aftereffects of rally) Super Mario Galaxy - 64% on Dragon Age: Origins Final Fantasy X - 64% on Half-Life Half-Life 2 - 64% on Demon's Souls Metroid Prime - 63% on Morrowind Kingdom Hearts 2 - 59% on MGS4 Resident Evil 4 - 59% on Paper Mario Final Fantasy VIII - 58% on GTA: Vice City (pre-Undertale rally) Goldeneye 007 - 56% on Diablo 2 Super Mario RPG - 54% on Oblivion Final Fantasy IX - 51% on Kingdom Hearts edit: just sorted them by r1 performance. makes it easier to compare, I think. --- xyzzy (edited 11/18/2015 3:28:17 PM)report |
super metroid in the top 10 tranny bias is real --- Communists |
that's not my list silly --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
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Bayo2 is a strange entrant man. Surely the non Wii U exclusive game would have been stronger right? --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
I'm voting for Corey in the House whatever match that is --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
transcience posted... operation shadow? aww yeah Allen believes --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Leon, you a busta --- Communists |
spooky96 posted... lolmgspic It's like Splatoon's going to color Snake in. --- Cranky's Advice - "git gud" Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
...well I guess I can be glad MGS got that picture against Splatoon instead of a later round also what the hell is Splatoon --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... ...well I guess I can be glad MGS got that picture against Splatoon instead of a later round Nintendo's latest new IP, that unlike most of their new IPs, is actually a hit that being said, its fans are obnoxious, so I'll enjoy the beatdown that MGS1 is about to bring down |
A game that needs a Nickelodeon tv show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwERpeBVJa8 --- BGE3: Today's Matches Witcher 3>BoI:R, MGS2>RE, Fallout:NV>BS:I, RE4>PM Points 46/52 |
My attempt at a top 20: 1. Ocarina of Time 2. Final Fantasy VII 3. Link to the Past 4. Chrono Trigger 5. Super Mario 64 6. Super Mario World 7. Super Mario Bros. 3 8. Super Smash Bros. Melee 9. Pokemon RBY 10. Final Fantasy VI 11. Majora's Mask 12. Final Fantasy X 13. Metal Gear Solid 14. Twilight Princess 15. Wind Waker 16. Pokemon GSC 17. Resident Evil 4 18. Metal Gear Solid 3 19. Skyrim 20. Fallout 3 ...A lot of the ordering seems questionable (#4 through #9 are all basically toss-ups) but I think those are the 20 from this contest I'd go with. Mario 1 and especially Brawl might be stronger than some of the lower games there but they're not in the contest and I don't think anyone truly knows what to expect of, say, Mario 1 vs. RE4. Skyrim looked bad enough that I expect it to get challenged on its way to Mario 64 but I still don't think it's going to actually lose to Goldeneye or the Metroid Prime/Half-Life 2 winner; obviously we'll get to see how those matches go soon. Those games and KHI/KHII/FFVIII/FFIX are all probably closer to Wind Waker than Wind Waker is to Twilight Princess unless TP has dropped. I'm not really a believer in Mass Effect 2. And if you wanted a super dark horse pick I'd guess Super Metroid really has skyrocketed in strength - but I still don't think it would be enough to break into the top 20. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
